Creating an ideal society - wives submitting to their husbands

[Norm d'Plume]

Hi. This is one in a group of questions I have related to a sci-fi book I'm writing that includes an ideal conservative Christian world called New Bethlehem. For more information about the book, please see my original thread here:http://www.christianforums.com/threads/creating-an-ideal-world-for-conservative-christians.7890296/

Should women on my world submit to their husbands? This comes up primarily because the current monarch is a queen and her husband is a prince, like Queen Elizabeth & Prince Phillip.

Whose decision should dominate in such a relationship when the Queen disagrees with the Prince about a matter of state? Like Queen Elizabeth, my story's queen is a legitimate descedant of King David.

What should the role of women in general be in society?

Thanks
Norm

 

[VegasGeorge]

OK, I'll bite, foolhardy as I am!

Biblically, and traditionally, Christian men have been the head of the family, and Christian women have been in charge of the household. But modern society has complicated this arrangement with women in the workplace and having equal footing with their men in knowledge and experience. Yet, the old arrangement still makes a lot of practical sense. Borrowing from C.S. Lewis, just ask yourself this question: If your dog bit the neighbor's kid, who would you rather deal with about the problem, the kid's mom or dad? I think most would agree that the dad would be the best choice. And that illustrates why he may be the best choice for head of the family.

 

[Biblicist]

Hi. This is one in a group of questions I have related to a sci-fi book I'm writing that includes an ideal conservative Christian world called New Bethlehem. For more information about the book, please see my original thread here:http://www.christianforums.com/threads/creating-an-ideal-world-for-conservative-christians.7890296/

Should women on my world submit to their husbands? This comes up primarily because the current monarch is a queen and her husband is a prince, like Queen Elizabeth & Prince Phillip.

Whose decision should dominate in such a relationship when the Queen disagrees with the Prince about a matter of state? Like Queen Elizabeth, my story's queen is a legitimate descedant of King David.

What should the role of women in general be in society?

Thanks
Norm

That's a good question. Maybe I should go and ask my wife what I think on this.

 

[Norm d'Plume]

That's a good question. Maybe I should go and ask my wife what I think on this.

Too funny.
Norm

 

[ToBeLoved]

OK, I'll bite, foolhardy as I am!

Biblically, and traditionally, Christian men have been the head of the family, and Christian women have been in charge of the household. But modern society has complicated this arrangement with women in the workplace and having equal footing with their men in knowledge and experience. Yet, the old arrangement still makes a lot of practical sense. Borrowing from C.S. Lewis, just ask yourself this question: If your dog bit the neighbor's kid, who would you rather deal with about the problem, the kid's mom or dad? I think most would agree that the dad would be the best choice. And that illustrates why he may be the best choice for head of the family.

Well, let's not put out the 'perception' that it is women who have 'jumped' into the workplace as Christians to unsurp men.

In reality, with divorce being common and many CHRISTIAN men divorcing their wives, committing adultery or abusing their families, women have in such instances been FORCED into supporting themselves and their children (I'm not going to even comment on how many MEN don't want to pay spousal support or child support).

To see this as a 'woman' dominated thing is to unrealistically see how the breakdown of the family has affected women and how they must proceed in their lives. How many women with no or little skills have entered into the work force with little pay after being a devoted wife and supporting their husbands through college and their career advancement?

Biblically, it is men who are to be both the FINANCIAL and SPIRITUAL head of the family. It has been men ALSO not doing their biblical duty and falling to sin that has exasperated this situation.

I think that modern society and women who have seen other women, whether it be in their own immediate family or extended family become unsurpted and unsupported and the reality set's in of not wanting to make similiar mistakes.

IT has been A PROCESS over many years that has led to this.

IMHO, women CHOOSE MEN WISELY. We fall in love and have all these dreams and think our lives will be a certain way. We as WOMEN must choose our men carefully and Biblically.

Your example of the 'dog bite' shows a very shallow perception, with all due respect of a complicated situation.

 

[ToBeLoved]

That's the PROBLEM with an 'ideal' is it's complicated.

Pray about it, maybe God will help you see that there is no 'ideal' while we are here on earth or maybe 'ideal' is the wrong word, unless you want to thouroughly go through all the things that a man biblically should be both physically and spiritually.

A man is to be a mirror image of what Christ is to His church. Keep that 'ideal' in mind. If the perfection of Christ to His church is the bar, then I think the word 'ideal' and being about imperfect men (and women) is a unrealistic word.