Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (3)

[Nathan Poe]

You might not need to establish a new nation after all...

http://en.afrik.com/article13630.html

"President plans to kill off every single homosexual"

"Gambian President Yahya Jammeh says he will “cut off the head” of any homosexual caught in his country. . . He said the Gambia was a country of believers, indicating that no sinful and immoral act as homosexual would be tolerated in the country.
He warned all homosexuals in the country to leave, noting that a legislation “stricter than those in Iran ” concerning the vice would be introduced soon."

If you were to move to Gambia, perhaps you could get a position in Jammeh's cabinet, and implement some of your other ideas?

 

[Paulos23]

He is a child of Lucifer?

Nathan is my brother?

Funny, Mom and dad never told me I was adopted.

Just be glad you weren't born with the tail. The horns are cool and all, but the tail is a pain in the....

 

[Nathan Poe]

Just be glad you weren't born with the tail. The horns are cool and all, but the tail is a pain in the....

The tail is easy -- it's finding the right shoes for these darn cloven hooves that's a real pain.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

You might not need to establish a new nation after all...

http://en.afrik.com/article13630.html

"President plans to kill off every single homosexual"

"Gambian President Yahya Jammeh says he will “cut off the head” of any homosexual caught in his country. . . He said the Gambia was a country of believers, indicating that no sinful and immoral act as homosexual would be tolerated in the country.
He warned all homosexuals in the country to leave, noting that a legislation “stricter than those in Iran ” concerning the vice would be introduced soon."

If you were to move to Gambia, perhaps you could get a position in Jammeh's cabinet, and implement some of your other ideas?

This is the issue that has bedeviled Africa for decades now: great people, lousy governments and psychotic strongmen.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

...uhmmm I've been born again and I can't think of a place I'd less like to live in either.
tulc(just in case you were wondering)

So you would rather live in a place where there are hookers on every corner, strip clubs every 50 feet, abortions in the tens of millions, homosexuals running wild in the streets and encouraging your kids to do the same? You would rather have the Crips, Bloods, White Fence, Hells Angels, Banditos, Tongs, Yakuza, and the Mafia running your streets? You would rather have drugs/ drug dealers and junkies littering your streets? I guess you don't mind porn movies/internet/mags...ect. all over your land?

Hey, you are right; you don't want to come to the New C.S.A.. Because these things would not be there.

It would be a Christian nation filled with Christians. They would be doing good and holy things. There would be lots of family fun and games. It just would be without homosexuality/porn/durgs...ect..

I'll stick with the New C.S.A.. You can have Sodom Frisco.

SOLA GRATIA.

 

[TheReasoner]

So you would rather live in a place where there are hookers on every corner, strip clubs every 50 feet, abortions in the tens of millions, homosexuals running wild in the streets and encouraging your kids to do the same? You would rather have the Crips, Bloods, White Fence, Hells Angels, Banditos, Tongs, Yakuza, and the Mafia running your streets? You would rather have drugs/ drug dealers and junkies littering your streets? I guess you don't mind porn movies/internet/mags...ect. all over your land?

Hey, you are right; you don't want to come to the New C.S.A.. Because these things would not be there.

It would be a Christian nation filled with Christians. They would be doing good and holy things. There would be lots of family fun and games. It just would be without homosexuality/porn/durgs...ect..

I'll stick with the New C.S.A.. You can have Sodom Frisco.

SOLA GRATIA.

Do I want all of that - or do I want a totalitarian, ecclesiocratic fascist elitist oligarchy where individuals are oppressed, even slaughtered for their mistakes or even things that are not their fault at all? Do I want what you describe in this post, or do I want what you've described as the C.S.A. Well SoF. You're making me choose between how the world is and how it would be under satanic rule. I choose how it is.

You see, devil worshippers I have met (the serious ones anyway) are not people who seek to be evil. They are very much like you actually. They want a crime-free society and they are more than willing to make it so with an iron hand. Like the Minnesotan governor candidate I mention in my blog entry on torture. They want a crime free society where even minor crimes or deviations from the norm are met with extreme harshness. Death, torture, maiming or similar.
YOUR ideas are actually a little bit worse in some areas than theirs.

So do I want a government acting like you or this devil worshipper who ran for governor in Minnesota - or do I want people of sound mind to rule the world in a democratic approach, flawed though this world may be.

I know what I'd choose. Sadly I also know what you would. And that, Shield, is as evil as evil gets. Sure, you don't think it is. Like Hitler didn't. Or Stalin didn't. Or devil worshippers who want what you describe don't.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Wrong. There would be plenty of love in the New C.S.A.. You just don't see it because you are blind and still dead in your sins. You are a child of lucifer and have not come to Christ and become born again. Hence you can not see that the New C.S.A. would be a very awesome place to live.

SOLA FIDE.

How have you come into Christ SoF to be born again if you advocate such a nation - neigh, a theocracy, which would seemingly seek to purge the world of its perceived "undesirables." Is that Christ-like, SoF? Is that what the Kingdom is about? Is that love? Is that really what Jesus would do? I dissent against your CSA, SoF, and for such dissent, in your CSA, I would likely be hung from the gallows. So much for freedom.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

So you would rather live in a place where there are hookers on every corner, strip clubs every 50 feet, abortions in the tens of millions, homosexuals running wild in the streets and encouraging your kids to do the same? You would rather have the Crips, Bloods, White Fence, Hells Angels, Banditos, Tongs, Yakuza, and the Mafia running your streets? You would rather have drugs/ drug dealers and junkies littering your streets? I guess you don't mind porn movies/internet/mags...ect. all over your land?

This is a textbook example of the either-or fallacy.

Either we're in favor of your goose-stepping Christian theocracy, or we believe in shooting heroin, worshiping Satan, and buggering each other in the streets.

Nonsense. I vote none of the above, and call you on your fallacious illogic.

 

[Shadowfax503]

This is a textbook example of the either-or fallacy.

Either we're in favor of your goose-stepping Christian theocracy, or we believe in shooting heroin, worshiping Satan, and buggering each other in the streets.

Nonsense. I vote none of the above, and call you on your fallacious illogic.

Very good call!

 

[Shadowfax503]

HEY SOF,

I think you are going to have to call your new nation another name, being as The Confederate States of America is still in use.
The South never signed a peace treaty or surrendered at the end of the US civil war so the original CSA, in technical terms, never ceased existence.

 

[Nathan Poe]

This is a textbook example of the either-or fallacy.

Either we're in favor of your goose-stepping Christian theocracy, or we believe in shooting heroin, worshiping Satan, and buggering each other in the streets.

Nonsense. I vote none of the above, and call you on your fallacious illogic.

it is a fallacy, but in all fairness, I would prefer shooting Heroin, worshiping Satan, and buggering people in the streets over SoF's Goose-Stepping theocracy.

Lesser of the two evils, and all that.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

it is a fallacy, but in all fairness, I would prefer shooting Heroin, worshiping Satan, and buggering people in the streets over SoF's Goose-Stepping theocracy.

Lesser of the two evils, and all that.

Once again, of course you would. You would do what your father does. He was a murder from the beginning and no truth is in him.

I would be praising GOD in the New C.S.A. and living in a land filled with righteousness and love.

There is no love without boundaries and law; there is only chaos.

The New C.S.A. would be a land of love and law.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I would be praising GOD in the New C.S.A. and living in a land filled with righteousness and love.

Praising Him how?

There is no love without boundaries and law; there is only chaos.

And which boundries and which law did you have in mind? 1 Cor. 13:4-7 very beautifully defines love, and I see nothing in the C.S.A. which even vaguely resembles it.

So go right on ahead with your little Satan-State, Shield -- you're only fooling yourself.

The New C.S.A. would be a land of love and law.

Question: How would your C.S.A. deal with the Internet? A lot of the sin, evil, vice, etc., is freely available over the 'net, most of which comes from servers outside the C.S.A.'s juristdiction. How will you keep it away from your people?

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Once again, of course you would. You would do what your father does. He was a murder from the beginning and no truth is in him.

Now you're insulting peoples' parents?

That's a new low, even for you, SoF.

 

[Lanakila]

I did not read through this thread but we already have the CSA in the southern US with blue laws and businesses closed on Sundays ect.

 

[TheReasoner]

I did not read through this thread but we already have the CSA in the southern US with blue laws and businesses closed on Sundays ect.

Ehhh.... Why do you compare businesses closed on sundays with genocide and oppression?

 

[TheReasoner]

Once again, of course you would. You would do what your father does. He was a murder from the beginning and no truth is in him.

Ezekiel 18:2-3

2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
" 'The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge'?

3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel.

If you were saying Satan is his father you're blaspheming. Just F.Y.I.

And Galatians 6:5 says:
“For every man shall bear his own burden.”

 

[Nathan Poe]

Ezekiel 18:2-3

2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
" 'The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge'?

3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel.

If you were saying Satan is his father you're blaspheming. Just F.Y.I.

And Galatians 6:5 says:
“For every man shall bear his own burden.”

Under the laws of the C.S.A., Shield must now be hanged.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Ezekiel 18:2-3

2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:
" 'The fathers eat sour grapes,
and the children's teeth are set on edge'?

3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel.

If you were saying Satan is his father you're blaspheming. Just F.Y.I.

And Galatians 6:5 says:
“For every man shall bear his own burden.”

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." 13 The Pharisees therefore said to Him, "You bear witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true." 14 Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. 15 You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. 16 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me. 17 It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me." 19 Then they said to Him, "Where is Your Father?" Jesus answered, "You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also." 20 These words Jesus spoke in the treasury, as He taught in the temple; and no one laid hands on Him, for His hour had not yet come. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 21 Then Jesus said to them again, "I am going away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin. Where I go you cannot come." 22 So the Jews said, "Will He kill Himself, because He says, 'Where I go you cannot come'?" 23 And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." 25 Then they said to Him, "Who are You?" And Jesus said to them, "Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him." 27 They did not understand that He spoke to them of the Father. 28 Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. 29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him." 30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." 33 They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, 'You will be made free'?" 34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed. 37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 38 I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father." 39 They answered and said to Him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father." Then they said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God." 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. --John 8[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]One more time for all you like me who can't see the small print.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD. YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND DOES NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKS A LIE, HE SPEAKS FROM HIS OWN RESOURCES, FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT."[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]I am 100% correct in my doctrine. Nathan Poe has already stated that he is not a Christian, he is an atheist. He is spiritually of his father the devil. I am 100% correct. If anyone is blaspheming it is you by denying GOD'S WORD.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Did you notice that JESUS said this:[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. "[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD."[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Uhmmm...[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. --1 Cor. 2[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"BUT THE NATURAL MAN DOES NOT RECEIVE THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD, FOR THEY ARE FOOLISHNESS TO HIM; NOR CAN HE KNOW THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED."[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] Hello![/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Once again, 100% correct in my doctrine. You just don't like it; that doesn't mean I'm wrong. It just means you don't like sound doctrine.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1. If you are a Christian then YHVH is your Father.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]2. If you are a heathen then lucifer is your father.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3. If you do not understand this please read the Word of God.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA SCRIPTURA.

SOLA FIDE.

SOLA GRATIA.

SOLUS CHRISTUS.

SOLI DEO GLORIA.

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[Nathan Poe]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]One more time for all you like me who can't see the small print.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD. YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND DOES NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKS A LIE, HE SPEAKS FROM HIS OWN RESOURCES, FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT."[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]I am 100% correct in my doctrine. Nathan Poe has already stated that he is not a Christian, he is an atheist. He is spiritually of his father the devil. I am 100% correct. If anyone is blaspheming it is you by denying GOD'S WORD.[/FONT]

First you misunderstand Christ's words and deeds, then you steal them for yourself.

Why should anyone listen to someone as Spiritually illiterate as yourself?

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Did you notice that JESUS said this:[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. "[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY SPEECH? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD."[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Uhmmm...[/FONT]

Did you notice you're not Jesus? Everyone else has.

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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"BUT THE NATURAL MAN DOES NOT RECEIVE THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD, FOR THEY ARE FOOLISHNESS TO HIM; NOR CAN HE KNOW THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED."[/FONT]

I'd probably say something similar if I'd gotten laughed out of Athens.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] Hello![/FONT]

Indeed -- there's a call on on line one for you, Shield -- it's a clue. You going to let it go to voicemail?

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Once again, 100% correct in my doctrine. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]You just don't like it; that doesn't mean I'm wrong. It just means you don't like sound doctrine.[/FONT]

Nope, you're completely wrong -- as usual. Co-opting Christ doesn't make it right.

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1. If you are a Christian then YHVH is your Father.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]2. If you are a heathen then lucifer is your father.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]3. If you do not understand this please read the Word of God.[/FONT]

You've read it; you don't get it.