Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (2)

[Nathan Poe]

And I'm still waiting for an answer from SoF to my question of whether or not God supported the Nazis, the Stalinists, the Khmer Rouge, etc.

I think Romans 13 answers that question sufficiently.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

So you're saying that if Apostle Paul had had his real, complete, godly will fulfilled in Corinth, if only the city of Corinth had had a "Godly government" - in the "CSA fashion" - that had had the right to implement the death sentece as prescribed in the Levitical Laws, in that case Paul and the Church of Corinth would have gladly given all these ex-gay, ex-fornicator, ex-idolatrer and ex-prostitute followers of Jesus to that "Godly" government to be stoned to death, believing that to be the will of Christ? Is that what you're suggesting?

I am not going to play your game, "ShieldOFaith". If your answer to my above question remains "yes", I am not going to call you a "friend" for any price on earth or in Heaven. Only over my dead body. But by now I've probably gone far enough in attacking your ideas to be included on a "dead body" black-list in your imagenary "nation", am I right?

My NONE friend (by your choice, not mine.), howdy.

You are all bent out of shape for no reason. I have never said that we should take people who have not been convicted of a crime and have been born again; and then have them arrested, tried, found guilty and hung by the neck until dead. I have NEVER said that.

You are very confused here. Really really confused.

I am saying this: LISTEN REAL CAREFULLY.

I am saying that if I were to start a NEW NATION, then and only then, would I have the government start out with Capital Punishment as part of its justice system. I would have the Murder, Rape, Kidnapping, Drug Running, Gangsters, Homosexuality, Treason would all be Capital offenses. If you committed one of these offenses you would be hung by the neck until dead.

HERE ARE THINGS YOU'D NOT BE HUNG FOR:

1. Eating shell fish.

2. Being a communist. If you preached it you'd be banished.

3. Gangster rap. You may be imprisoned, but you would not be hung for that.

4. Working on the Sabbath. You would probably be rebuked, but you would not be hung for that.

5. Wearing two different types of clothing (cotton and polyester.). You might look weird, but you won't get hung for that.

So are you a little more clear on that.

I am not this blood thirsty monster that you make me out to be, my none friend (by your choice, not mine.).

Here is one more thing. You don't have to be my friend. You are COMMANDED by GOD to love me.

So put that in your none peace-pipe and smoke it.

SOLA FIDE.

 

[GrayCat]

You are COMMANDED by GOD to love me.

Bible verse citing this, please?


And why do you not like communism (like, how is communism against Christian belief/God's will?)

 

[tulc]

I would have the Murder, Rape, Kidnapping, Drug Running, Gangsters, Homosexuality, Treason would all be Capital offenses.

Soooo being gay is the same as murder, rape, kidnapping,drug running, treason and being a gangster?
tulc(that should make your "witnessing" easier, huh?)

 

[GrayCat]

Whoa, being a "gangster" is a sin?


That made me laugh.


Why do you think that it is a sin, Shield?

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

HERE ARE THINGS YOU'D NOT BE HUNG FOR:

1. Eating shell fish.

2. Being a communist. If you preached it you'd be banished.

3. Gangster rap. You may be imprisoned, but you would not be hung for that.

4. Working on the Sabbath. You would probably be rebuked, but you would not be hung for that.

5. Wearing two different types of clothing (cotton and polyester.). You might look weird, but you won't get hung for that.

So in other words the whole rationale behind the legal system of your CSA is yours, not God's.

Thanks for clearing that up, and taking ownership of your ideas rather than claiming they are based on the OT.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Bible verse citing this, please?


And why do you not like communism (like, how is communism against Christian belief/God's will?)

Because if we distributed wealth more equitably, Bill Gates might only be able to afford four LearJets rather than five.

This of course would destroy all incentive to produce wealth...who in their right mind would try to improve themselves or bring a product or service to market if they could only be rich enough to own FOUR LearJets?

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Bible verse citing this, please?


And why do you not like communism (like, how is communism against Christian belief/God's will?)

Joseph Stalin murdered over 40,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Mao murdered over 50,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Pol Pot murdered over 2, 000,000 human beings in the name of communism. There have been more human beings murdered in the name of communism than any other 'ism', 'philosophy', 'religion', 'thought', 'cause'...ect..

If you knew some of the pastors who were TORTURED for years because of communism; you might understand where I am coming from. If you have no clue of these atrocities then I can understand why you'd not understand.

Too bad the liberal media and the liberal educational system has purposefully fell silent when it comes to the VILE ATROCITIES OF COMMUNISM. When Mao and Stalin are your hero's, you usually don't speak out against them.

marxist/communism is vile and rotten to the core. It is nothing but MURDER wrapped in a little red package. That is why I hate communism.

SOLA FIDE.

 

[GrayCat]

marxist/communism is vile and rotten to the core. It is nothing but MURDER wrapped in a little red package. That is why I hate communism.

Oh yeah and your government system wouldn't murder anyone.

Nope.

 

[IzzyPop]

Joseph Stalin murdered over 40,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Mao murdered over 50,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Pol Pot murdered over 2, 000,000 human beings in the name of communism. There have been more human beings murdered in the name of communism than any other 'ism', 'philosophy', 'religion', 'thought', 'cause'...ect..

If you knew some of the pastors who were TORTURED for years because of communism; you might understand where I am coming from. If you have no clue of these atrocities then I can understand why you'd not understand.

Too bad the liberal media and the liberal educational system has purposefully fell silent when it comes to the VILE ATROCITIES OF COMMUNISM. When Mao and Stalin are your hero's, you usually don't speak out against them.

marxist/communism is vile and rotten to the core. It is nothing but MURDER wrapped in a little red package. That is why I hate communism.

SOLA FIDE.

Bah. You're just jealous. I'm pretty sure that if you had the reins, we'd have over 100 million killed for your God.

 

[tulc]

Joseph Stalin murdered over 40,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Mao murdered over 50,000,000 human beings in the name of communism. Pol Pot murdered over 2, 000,000 human beings in the name of communism. There have been more human beings murdered in the name of communism than any other 'ism', 'philosophy', 'religion', 'thought', 'cause'...ect..

...I thought if the Government did it, it wasn't murder?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[Suomipoika]

I would have the Murder, Rape, Kidnapping, Drug Running, Gangsters, Homosexuality, Treason would all be Capital offenses. If you committed one of these offenses you would be hung by the neck until dead.

I know both an ex-drug runner and an ex-gay who are born-again Christians and serve the Lord, both pastors and evangelists in evangelical Christian Churches. If you think that these people should have been executed in the first place instead of being transformed through the Gospel of Christ, you are a worshipper of the devil, a demonic monster. You vomit blood and you fight against the causes of Christ. You bloody, ugly SATAN. You want people like these dead, you TAKE ME WITH THEM! YOU BLOODY DEMON!

 

[Cabal]

...I thought if the Government did it, it wasn't murder?
tulc(just a thought)

*points to sig*

Shield: the only difference between you and the Nazis is you use slightly more Bible verses.

Now please go back under your bridge, like the troll you are.

 

[TheReasoner]

I know both an ex-drug runner and an ex-gay who are born-again Christians and serve the Lord, both pastors and evangelists in evangelical Christian Churches. If you think that these people should have been executed in the first place instead of being transformed through the Gospel of Christ, you are a worshipper of the devil, a demonic monster. You vomit blood and you fight against the causes of Christ. You bloody, ugly SATAN. You want people like these dead, you TAKE ME WITH THEM! YOU BLOODY DEMON!

And me. If you wish to kill them, you'll have to kill me as well.
Shield, I have told you before what you're promoting is devilish in the worst sense of the word. I have asked you to repent. I have given you scripture to show you how what you're saying is evil. So have many others. We have rebuked you Shield. Yet you have refused to repent. Yet I will call you - again - to turn away from this devilry and abandon your evil ways.

 

[Nathan Poe]

HERE ARE THINGS YOU'D NOT BE HUNG FOR:

1. Eating shell fish.

2. Being a communist. If you preached it you'd be banished.

3. Gangster rap. You may be imprisoned, but you would not be hung for that.

4. Working on the Sabbath. You would probably be rebuked, but you would not be hung for that.

5. Wearing two different types of clothing (cotton and polyester.). You might look weird, but you won't get hung for that.

So are you a little more clear on that.

Crystal clear -- GOD gave you very specific instructions on what offenses are capital crimes, and while you're claiming your C.S.A.to be based on GOD's infallible holy word, the truth is that you're watering it down.

Here is one more thing. You don't have to be my friend. You are COMMANDED by GOD to love me.

Ignoring/watering down HIS COMMANDS seems to be all the rage in the New C.S.A.

Disobeying God: It's what's for Christians.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

I know both an ex-drug runner and an ex-gay who are born-again Christians and serve the Lord, both pastors and evangelists in evangelical Christian Churches. If you think that these people should have been executed in the first place instead of being transformed through the Gospel of Christ, you are a worshipper of the devil, a demonic monster. You vomit blood and you fight against the causes of Christ. You bloody, ugly SATAN. You want people like these dead, you TAKE ME WITH THEM! YOU BLOODY DEMON!

I have helped lead many people to the Lord Jesus Christ. Two of them are now pastors. One of them is my cusin and his church is running around 2,500. The other is head pastor of a Baptist church here in the Sacramento area. His church is around 700-900 people. I have helped bring others to the Lord who went on to be evangelists.

Strange that I've touched so many people for Christ and have helped many through serious trials; YET, according to you I am a "bloody, ugly SATAN.".

Your accusation has no merit. It has only anger in its teeth. I am sorry that you don't see Capital Punishment the way I see it; however, calling me a "bloody, ugly SATAN." is wrong and not doing any one any good.

Suomipoika, can you please go and tell all the people I have led to the Lord, and are serving Him faithfully that I am a "bloody, ugly SATAN.". Please go tell them that you believe that they were brought to faith in Christ Jesus by a demon. Please specify that it was a "bloody, ugly SATAN.", that prayed with them and preached to them and brought them to the Lord.

Sola Gratia.

 

[tulc]

SoF did you explain to them about the new country you want to establish?
tulc(still wondering about Governments and murder)

 

[Wednesday]

*points to sig*

Shield: the only difference between you and the Nazis is you use slightly more Bible verses.

Now please go back under your bridge, like the troll you are.

I'm sorry, I have to point out this, but Tulc happens to be one of the nicest guys on here. I'm sure he was being sarcastic, he often attacks SOF's and other fundies' posts in a very smart and witty manner.

He hangs out on the Liberal board in Congregations sections, and he is officially one of the coolest Christians ever. Read some of his older posts.

 

[reverend B]

I have helped lead many people to the Lord Jesus Christ. Two of them are now pastors. One of them is my cusin and his church is running around 2,500. The other is head pastor of a Baptist church here in the Sacramento area. His church is around 700-900 people. I have helped bring others to the Lord who went on to be evangelists.

Strange that I've touched so many people for Christ and have helped many through serious trials; YET, according to you I am a "bloody, ugly SATAN.".

Your accusation has no merit. It has only anger in its teeth. I am sorry that you don't see Capital Punishment the way I see it; however, calling me a "bloody, ugly SATAN." is wrong and not doing any one any good.

Suomipoika, can you please go and tell all the people I have led to the Lord, and are serving Him faithfully that I am a "bloody, ugly SATAN.". Please go tell them that you believe that they were brought to faith in Christ Jesus by a demon. Please specify that it was a "bloody, ugly SATAN.", that prayed with them and preached to them and brought them to the Lord.

Sola Gratia.

satan does not come as a red devil with tail, horns and pitchfork, but as a solemn and sincere helper, wanting to save those who are in trouble. when the anti-christ comes, he will build the largest church on earth, won't he? the most solid block of sychophants on the planet, all convinced of the holiness of his leadership. if these people believe as you do, then these are large churches serving evil and hatred and retribution. congratulations. you are paving the wide road for the masses. simplistic answers are always appealing. the narrow road of love and forgiveness in the face of sinful activity is a far greater challenge than to smite those that one finds disagreable. i need no god to tell me to hate, to strike out, to fight, to kill, to be vengeful. these traits are what i am asked by Christ to overcome. what a far greater challenge He lies before me than any you can begin to imagine. anyone can follow a god that asks them to worship the worst part of themselves. it is my God that asks me to pursue a love that is unknown to me. a love that is foolish, unrequited, undeserved, indiscriminate and even fatal. i am called to that kind of love. you are called by a god that cozies up to the worst of you, the prideful you, the vengeful you, the you of hubris, of self-righteousness. i need no god for that. i am human. i was born with that. i need a Savior to deliver me from what you worship. i long for you to meet Him.

 

[reverend B]

I'm sorry, I have to point out this, but Tulc happens to be one of the nicest guys on here. I'm sure he was being sarcastic, he often attacks SOF's and other fundies' posts in a very smart and witty manner.

He hangs out on the Liberal board in Congregations sections, and he is officially one of the coolest Christians ever. Read some of his older posts.

you will get no argument from me on this, wednesday!