Creating a New Nation! The New C.S.A. (2)

You didn't answer my Question, sheild, several pages back.



Give a reason, please, *why* the Nation should be based off the Bible.

Preferably an objective reason, not along the lines of "because you think so".

USMC4 sounds like he's related to SoF...

There will NEVER be a time when you will be able to fly into the Sun on your own power. You were not designed by GOD to fly; let alone fly all the way to the Sun and go into the Sun.

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Non sequitur.

It is not my fault that you do not like the fact that GOD gave the government the right to execute Capital Punishment.

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It is not my fault you are a fanatic who can't be reasoned with.

As far a psychos go; maybe you should look in the mirror. It might be you who is in a psychosis. If you want rabid violent men running around and raping and murdering our women and children; and do not want them put down, then I would have to direct you to a mirror.

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How many times must you be told this: No one is against murderers and rapists being punished, what is the issue is that you advocate killing gays for being gay and killing disobeidient children. How would you go about tracking down "Disobeidient Children",anyway? Are you going to execute over 90% of the CSA's teenagers.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.

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ShieldOFaith said:

The Holy Bible is superior to all other writings on this earth. The 66 books of the Holy Bible are God breathed. GOD the creator of the entire universe is the One who spoke it. Hence, it is absolute truth! It is absolutely perfect and holy.

The only man to ever live a perfect life, who died and rose up on His own power from the dead; said these words:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.' --Matthew 4

THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD BASE OUR NATION UPON THE HOLY BIBLE.

SOLA SCRIPTURA.
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Prove it. Governments actually need to derive their legitimacy from something tangiably right, not mad gibberings from bronze age Judea. If you want proof, compare the stability and prosperity of secular Turkey with pretty much anywhere else in the Middle East.

ShieldOFaith said:

I am explaining very clearly that Capital Punishment is of GOD. It is very easy to do. I have done it.

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Am i reading this correctly?? You're saying Capital punishment is easy to do, and you know this because You've Done It???


I'd like an explanation of that, please... And some verses showing just where God tells Humans it's ok for them to put eachother to death.

ShieldOFaith said:

Since you refuse to deal with the text; your words are null and void. All the words you just typed are null and void of substance. [FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]
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In other words, you're incapable of holding an open debate. You remind me of a child plugging his ears and singing "la-la-la-I-can't-HEAR-you!" when someone says something he doesn't like. Refusing to address an opponent's arguments means you lose the debate, in case you never took a forensics class.

SoF, you might want to follow that sage advice about how remaining silent and being thought a fool is better than speaking up and removing all doubt. You underline and boldface your intellectual and moral bankruptcy with every post you make.

Cabal said:

Really SoF, stop with the whole "God says I'm right" routine, 58 pages later, its' getting tiring.

As I've said on many other threads:

It is possible for both God and man to think you're being a psycho.

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SoF keeps repeating that assertion like a frog-leg twitching in a high-school science experiment because he lacks the intellectual capacity to actually formulate and defend an argument.

ShieldOFaith said:

There will NEVER be a time when you will be able to fly into the Sun on your own power. You were not designed by GOD to fly; let alone fly all the way to the Sun and go into the Sun.

This is absolute fact. I am 100% right! If you say different, you are 100% wrong.

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Strawman.

ShieldOFaith said:

Truth; GOD has already spoken and His Word is eternal. I am doctrinally correct. You may not like that; but that is your problem, not mine. If you don't like it, read the Word of God and see for yourself.

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I'm going to put this as simply as possible - this is YOUR interpretation. There is no justification for taking the Bible literally - the Bible says it's inspired by God. That is all. Nowhere does it say it is to be taken literally.

Not that you ARE actually taking it literally, otherwise you'd have the testicular fortitude to actually answer Nathan Poe's points.

Also you should consider that even the literalist Christians on here disagree with you. If the Bible has one perfect interpretation (which I'm sure it does, but we're far too human to comprehend it perfectly) then there should be more people agreeing with you.

As I said before - you're not being given a hard time because everyone here is against God.

It's because Occam's razor won about 80 pages ago, and rather than booking yourself in for some much needed therapy time, you've dodged people's questions, insulted their faith and moved the goalposts to another galaxy.

ShieldOFaith said:

It is not my fault that you do not like the fact that GOD gave the government the right to execute Capital Punishment. It has nothing to do with me. It is your fault, not mine. I am explaining very clearly that Capital Punishment is of GOD. It is very easy to do. I have done it.

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It gave ONE civilisation that AGREED to a now COMPLETED covenant the right.

Again, maybe you should consider that you're incorrect given the huge numbers of Christians disagreeing with you.

ShieldOFaith said:

As far a psychos go; maybe you should look in the mirror. It might be you who is in a psychosis. If you want rabid violent men running around and raping and murdering our women and children; and do not want them put down, then I would have to direct you to a mirror.

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You were the one who moved that goalpost, stop misrepresenting people. You also clearly have no notion of forgiveness or repentance if this is how casually you treat human life.

In other words, totally unfit to run a country.

ShieldOFaith said:

I am right. I am 100% correct; because GOD is 100% correct and I am only speaking and repeating what HE HAS ALREADY SAID.

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As you and ever other tinpot dictator in history have claimed. Why don't you see how they're doing?

REX NON SEQUITUR

ShieldOFaith said:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The government has the authority by GOD to execute Capital Punishment. Always has, and always will.[/FONT]

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Where on earth is this stated in the Bible?

Or anywhere else for that matter?


And if the government does this, isn't that practically placing itself at the same level as God?

ShieldOFaith said:

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"THAT NO PROPHECY OF SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION"[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Hence, this is completely true and you can not do anything about it.

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In context, this is talking about the origin of the Old Testament prophecies. It DOES NOT justify hijacking the Scriptures for your own twisted worldview.

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ShieldOFaith said:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience' sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. --Romans 13[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The government has the authority by GOD to execute Capital Punishment. Always has, and always will.[/FONT]

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Capital punishment is not mentioned here. Only "wrath."

Also, this only applies to governments which are divinely inspired.

Yours is not.

MUSTUS TRYUS BETTERUS.

Cabal said:

MUSTUS TRYUS BETTERUS.

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Not a chance...the throttle of SoF's brain is as far open as it's going to go--the lawnmower engine therein is already perilously close to overheating.

And no, this actually is not a flame. How many times has SoF been asked simple, direct questions and failed to give any response beyond cut-and-paste and "God is always right?" Given the number of times SoF has failed to answer the direct, easily understandable questions put to him, I must conclude he is not intellectually capable of understanding the questions, analyzing them, and composing a coherent, original response.

I'll restate the questions:

1. Will the OT be the sole source of law and be followed to the letter in the C.S.A.? This question should be answerable with a simple "yes" or "no," as either C.S.A. law = OT, or C.S.A. law &#8800; OT.

2. If the answer to #1 is no, then on what basis and authority does SoF deviate from OT law?

Very simple, direct questions, which SoF has thus far refused to provide a clear, direct answer to. This is, inasmuch as I recall, the fourth time I have posed these questions. Variants have already been posed by others. If SoF cannot provide clear, concise, understandable, original answers, he is not intellectually qualified to run a hamburger stand let alone a country.

If you want to split up the nation, and create a racist, sexist theocracy, how would you aim to cut up the pie in terms of the deliniations of whom should live where?

Obviously gays would not be welcome in your country. But what would you do to create a separate country?

The funniest thing is, that we arguing against his childish idea of a mythical nation. I mean, it's not like there is any way for him to actually make it happen. It's just his little dream, let him have it.

We might also try and find him a small square of land so he would feel happy, something like a sandbox on a playground. At lest he would calm down a little.

All he ever does is Copy-Paste Bible and Caps Lock Attack. I'm not even sure that he even reads the passages he is copying. Just a child, really.