Covenants And Testaments

[heymikey80]

The truth is what inevitably arrives on your doorstep whether you want it to be there or not. The truth is reality.

However, the truth is not scoped by what one individual thinks another can or can't see, and what one person presumes another to be doing or his motives.

 

[virgilio]

The truth is what inevitably arrives on your doorstep whether you want it to be there or not. The truth is reality.

However, the truth is not scoped by what one individual thinks another can or can't see, and what one person presumes another to be doing or his motives.

heymickey80 greetings,
I beg you, please do not be offended where did you learn this truth? Is this God wisdom or man's wisdom? what is your supporting scripture for your answer? maybe you had just read it in weekly magazine horoscope and how would you connect your answer to your signature verse?

Do you think that it was the truth Jesus answer to Pilate when he was asked, "What is the truth?"

"Have I become your enemy by telling the truth?" Paul

Thank you and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

 

[heymikey80]

Job.

 

[virgilio]

Job.

heymickey80 greetings,
WOW, What kind of answer is that? You had posted a great number of post and you're capable to response in one word "Job".
I made a thorough search seeking in synoptic books whether Jesus answered"Job" to Pilate, when he was asked if what is truth; but did not find it.

I'm sorry, I had nothing to learn from you so this is my last post for you.

Don't try to respond any more, before I place you in my ignore list.

Peace and grace be with you.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

 

[heymikey80]

You didn't ask what Pilate asked.

 

[virgilio]

You didn't ask what Pilate asked.

Originally Posted by heymikey80

The truth is what inevitably arrives on your doorstep whether you want it to be there or not. The truth is reality.

However, the truth is not scoped by what one individual thinks another can or can't see, and what one person presumes another to be doing or his motives.
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heymickey80 greetings,
I beg you, please do not be offended where did you learn this truth? Is this God wisdom or man's wisdom? what is your supporting scripture for your answer? maybe you had just read it in weekly magazine horoscope and how would you connect your answer to your signature verse?

Do you think that it was the truth Jesus answer to Pilate when he was asked, "What is the truth?"

"Have I become your enemy by telling the truth?" Paul

Thank you and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio http://www.christianforums.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=58629895

Maybe you missed to read this post. September 24,2011 God bless

 

[triplet347]

I have only read some of the posts here and I have to disagree with your definition and use of the word "covenant". I used to believe as you do and hold similar definitions. I used to believe that a covenant was just a contract more or less, a promise, and an obligation. Not anymore. As a 21st century American gentile I thought of a covenant in simply contractual terms as many of you probably do, but this is not how the Hebrews understood "covenant". If we want to understand what God's plan for salvation was all about, we have to start with the correct view of covenants and the only way to do that is to look at the Old and New Testaments with Jewish/Hebrew eyes.

To the ancient Hebrews and most ancient Near Eastern civilizations the difference between a covenant and a contract was the same as the difference between marriage and prostitution or the difference between sonship and slavery. The Hebrew covenant was the Hebrew way of establishing family bonds. Hebrews would set up covenants with other persons (individuals) or other nations and after the covenantal ritual they would call eachother brother(s). This the way God uses covenants. This is why after the covenants God called those who He established the covenant with, "his children." This is why God says to Moses in the book of Exodus, "Go tell Pharoah Isreal is my first-born son, let him come to serve me else I'll slay his first-born sons." At Mount Sinai after the Exodus and after meal on the mountain God says, "I will be your God and you will be my people." The word "people" here literally means "my children", "my family", or "my kinsmen".

In a contract you exchange goods and services. The two parties are saying, "This is yours and that is mine.", but in a covenant you are exchanging persons, lifes. The parties are saying, "I am yours and you are mine."

The Six covenants you can see throughout the OT and NT are:

1) The covenant with Adam and Eve (marriage)
2) The covenant with Noah (family)
3) The covenant with Abraham (tribe - many families)
4) The covenant with Moses (Nation - many tribes)
5) The covenant with David (Kingdom)
6) The covenant established by Jesus (International - world-wide)

Note: The Hebrews also saw a covenant with creation. God created for six days and on the seventh made it holy and hallowed His creation. In Hebrew to swear an oath was to "seven" oneself.

If you understand covenant, then you will see how salvation history is about God growing his family. There is so much more I could share and I could spend pages sharing it with you. I alwas get excited about talking about this because it was an epiphany for me and it was like the blinders coming off when I realized this. There are so many passages in scripture that was very hard to understand if you did not understand what a covenant was.

I hope this helps and if you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them or I can point you to some good books.
God bless,

 

[ReformedPharisee]

The so-called Covenant Theology seems to be built on a false premise.

I'm sure someone has already set this issue straight, but in case this point has not yet already been made, when we study what a covenant is and how they are applied, Covenant Theology is the ONLY kind of correct theology...when speaking of things that pertain to covenants, of course.

Any interpretation of passages of scripture that are interpreted outside of the covenant from which they relate and originate from, will be a false interpretation almost 99% of the time. This is one reason why we have such false doctrine in the church today that has persisted since the Reformation, because most of the fathers of the reformation did not have a complete understanding of covenant principles and how they affect interpretation of doctrines - to the point that a lot of what we call "orthodoxy" today is based in false teachings.

What I mean by that is this...

Acts 18:24-26
Now a certain Jew named Apollos, an Alexandrian by race, an eloquent man, came to Ephesus; and he was mighty in the scriptures. 25 This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he spake and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus, knowing only the baptism of John: 26 and he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. But when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more accurately.

This is where we are at today...we need to have the way of God expounded to the church today MORE ACCURATELY...because the way we have it today, for the most part, is like a round of Swiss cheese - full of holes.

 

[Ormly]

I'm sure someone has already set this issue straight, but in case this point has not yet already been made, when we study what a covenant is and how they are applied, Covenant Theology is the ONLY kind of correct theology...when speaking of things that pertain to covenants, of course.

Any interpretation of passages of scripture that are interpreted outside of the covenant from which they relate and originate from, will be a false interpretation almost 99% of the time. This is one reason why we have such false doctrine in the church today that has persisted since the Reformation, because most of the fathers of the reformation did not have a complete understanding of covenant principles and how they affect interpretation of doctrines - to the point that a lot of what we call "orthodoxy" today is based in false teachings.

What I mean by that is this...

Acts 18:24-26
Now a certain Jew named Apollos, an Alexandrian by race, an eloquent man, came to Ephesus; and he was mighty in the scriptures. 25 This man had been instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in spirit, he spake and taught accurately the things concerning Jesus, knowing only the baptism of John: 26 and he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. But when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more accurately.

This is where we are at today...we need to have the way of God expounded to the church today MORE ACCURATELY...because the way we have it today, for the most part, is like a round of Swiss cheese - full of holes.

Please, in your estimation, what is missing that might fill in the holes in the Swiss cheese? Thanks

 

[ReformedPharisee]

Please, in your estimation, what is missing that might fill in the holes in the Swiss cheese? Thanks

Ormly...the pieces that were lost during the dark ages of the church, from 303 - 1500 A.D. The things that the Reformers didn't understand about the New Covenant, such as Covenant principles, how to enter into the Covenant and then remain abiding in the Covenant.

Things that are today considered to be Orthodoxy that are not accurate, such as believing that once a person prays a sinner's prayer, they immediately have eternal life. This is a tradition of man, not according to Scripture.

It would take us a while in this format to go over them all, but we would have to start that in another thread...if interested.

Peace.

 

[dan p]

Ormly...the pieces that were lost , such as Covenant principles, how to enter into the Covenant and then remain abiding in the Covenant.
Peace.

Hi , and how can anyone enter INTO the remaining Covenants , like the ;

New Covenant
Paleatinian
Davidic
Abrahamic

When the Covenants , written above are all UN-conditional and are DEPENDENT upon God to bring them to Pass ??

dan p

 

[ReformedPharisee]

Hi , and how can anyone enter INTO the remaining Covenants , like the ;

New Covenant
Paleatinian
Davidic
Abrahamic

When the Covenants , written above are all UN-conditional and are DEPENDENT upon God to bring them to Pass ??

dan p

Hi Dan...the only covenant I am addressing here is the New Covenant that Christ came to bring to the world, where both Jew and Gentile can enter into Covenant Relationship with the Living God. The Davidic Covenant was just to David, it does not pertain to us. The Abrahamic Covenant does not pertain to us, it was made to Abraham. The Mosaic Covenant (also called the Old Covenant, and some also call it the Sinaitic Covenant) was superseded and made obsolete by the New Covenant.

Hebrews 9:1-10
1 Now even the first covenant had regulations for worship and an earthly place of holiness.
2 For a tent was prepared, the first section, in which were the lampstand and the table and the bread of the Presence. It is called the Holy Place.
3 Behind the second curtain was a second section called the Most Holy Place,
4 having the golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden urn holding the manna, and Aaron's staff that budded, and the tablets of the covenant.
5 Above it were the cherubim of glory overshadowing the mercy seat. Of these things we cannot now speak in detail.
6 These preparations having thus been made, the priests go regularly into the first section, performing their ritual duties,
7 but into the second only the high priest goes, and he but once a year, and not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the unintentional sins of the people.
8 By this the Holy Spirit indicates that the way into the holy places is not yet opened as long as the first section is still standing
9 (which is symbolic for the present age). According to this arrangement, gifts and sacrifices are offered that cannot perfect the conscience of the worshiper,
10 but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.

The "time of reformation" is why Jesus came...His time had come...to inaugurate the New Covenant. When He accomplished His goal, the veil was torn in two, from top to bottom, signifying that now the way into the Holy of Holies is open for all men - for whosoever will - to come to God in person, a priest being no longer necessary for Christ's blood paid it all.

Hebrews 8:6-7
But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant He mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.

Again, Christ's mission was to mediate and bring into effect a better covenant, with better promises (the indwelling of the Spirit, for example), and the old covenant was dismissed, having been fulfilled by the Messiah, having fulfilled its purpose.

Hebrews 9:15
Therefore He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

Hebrews 10:5-9
Consequently, when Christ came into the world, He said, "Sacrifices and offerings You have not desired, but a body have You prepared for Me; in burnt offerings and sin offerings You have taken no pleasure. Then I said, 'Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God, as it is written of Me in the scroll of the book.'" When He said above, "You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings" (these are offered according to the law), then He added, "Behold, I have come to do Your will." He does away with the first in order to establish the second.

And having superseded the Old with the New, there was also a need for change in the Law and its application…

Hebrews 7:11-12
Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? But when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.

So that now, in dealing a decisive blow to sin in the life of those who desire to enter into relationship with God, we no longer follow the Law written on stone tablets, but we obey Him today according to the new and living way of the Spirit…

Hebrews 10:20
by the new and living way that He opened for us through the curtain, that is, through His flesh,

Romans 7:6
But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

Because of this new Law that He brought (which is not readily recognized today because of false teachings considered orthodoxy today), He is the mediator of a better covenant.

When the Covenants , written above are all UN-conditional and are DEPENDENT upon God to bring them to Pass ??

Ah, but they are not ALL unconditional. The Old Covenant was conditional upon walking before God in obedience to the Law [of Moses], commonly called the 10 commandments, and the breakdown of examples given in the subsequent passages. Neither is the New Covenant unconditional, and those who teach that it is do not know what they are talking about.

The New Covenant is conditional upon meeting the new command Christ gave, and in so doing, we abide in Christ and in God, which is also abiding in the Covenant...

I John 4:16
So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.



I John 3:24
Whoever keeps His commandments abides in God, and God in him…


1 John 2:24
Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father.


1 John 3:11
For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.


Dan, the New Covenant is conditional...Jesus even set the first two conditions...

John 3:5
Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.


One cannot enter into the Kingdom of God unless he enters into Covenant with God, for the Kingdom is a promise of the Covenant. Therefore, in order to enter into the Covenant with God, we enter in through baptism and the subsequent new birth - the entering of the Spirit of God into the individual, giving him the new nature.

This is scripture, not opinion.

I hope that helps, Dan

 

[dan p]

Hi Dan...the only covenant I am addressing here is the New Covenant that Christ came to bring to the world, where both Jew and Gentile can enter into Covenant Relationship with the Living God.

I hope that helps, Dan

Hi , and where are GENTILES , INCLUDED in the New Covenant ??

Where is that VERSE ??

DAN P

 

[ReformedPharisee]

Hi , and where are GENTILES , INCLUDED in the New Covenant ??

Where is that VERSE ??

DAN P

Again, the New Covenant is not so one specific race, like the Mosaic Covenant was. The New Covenant is to "whosoever will" and that automatically includes Gentiles. I gave you that verse on the other thread, but here you are again...

Ephesians 2:13-16
13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off [that is, Gentiles] have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility
15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,
16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.

"Us both one" meaning us both - Jew and Gentile, as one, not two any longer.

"one new man in place of the two" = again, meaning that both Jew and Gentile, who were before NOT one in God, can become one new man "in Christ."

Here, in case you need another one...

Acts 10:45
And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.

The gift of the Spirit is only applicable to those who are in Covenant with God, for it is a Covenant promise. God did a special work here, for He poured out His Spirit upon these Gentile believers even before they had been baptized into the Covenant. This is God moving to bring the Gentile believers into Covenant Relationship with Himself.

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, "Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life."

And that life is only found in the Covenant with God, therefore God has brought "whosoever will" into the Kingdom through the Covenant. And again...

Acts 13:47
For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

Dan, the New Testament scriptures are replete with passages talking about God bringing the Gentiles into His family, where before it was mainly the Jews. There is not JUST one, but many.

 

[dan p]

Again, the New Covenant is not so one specific race, like the Mosaic Covenant was. The New Covenant is to "whosoever will" and that automatically includes Gentiles. I gave you that verse on the other thread, but here you are again...
/quote]


Hi , and Heb 8:8 disagrees with what is written above as the New Covenant is written to the House of Israel and the House of Judah and does not mention GENTILES at all !!

Why is that ??

dan p

 

[1watchman]

I stand firmly behind the paper posted in the beginning of this thread: Covenant theology is based on error, by those who do not see any difference between the Israelite religion and the Church. That is sad to hear.

There are eight covenants shown in the Word of God: Edenic, Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, Palestinian, Davidic, New Covenant. All of these pertain to Israel. The New Covenant is NOT concerning the Church, but is shown in Hebrews as the promise to Israel as a nation, that God will again restore them as a people at the beginning of the Millennium period yet to come ---a new hope for them.

The failure by those who do not know what the Church is, causes the confusion we see. The Bible is all about God's dealings with His covenanted people of Israel. The Church is a parenthesis in the Bible to take out a people (the Bride) for Christ's sake (a NEW TESTAMENT). When that is fully accomplished at the Translation of the Church (rapture), the judgment will commence to fall on this ungodly world and for seven years (Tribulation). Then the Lord Jesus Christ will return with His Bride and the heavenly host (O.T. saints) and vanquish God's enemies on earth. The Lord will reveal Himself to the remnant of Israel whom they rejected (144,000 preserved) and they will bow down and repent. The Lord will then begin the NEW COVENANT with Israel as He raises them up to rule over the Gentile world.

This is the essence in brief of the whole story of Covenants and Testaments. Thank God that those of us Gentiles who are brought in (grafted in) to the grace of God today will ever be with the Lord in His reign over the world for 1,000 years, and then return with Him to Heaven. God will then purge the earth (fire from Heaven) and have an earthly people (new Israel) and a heavenly people (the Bride of Christ) forever.

I rest my case, and hope others will be awakened to this truth and not fight against God's Word.

 

[ReformedPharisee]

Again, the New Covenant is not so one specific race, like the Mosaic Covenant was. The New Covenant is to "whosoever will" and that automatically includes Gentiles. I gave you that verse on the other thread, but here you are again...
/quote]


Hi , and Heb 8:8 disagrees with what is written above as the New Covenant is written to the House of Israel and the House of Judah and does not mention GENTILES at all !!

Why is that ??

dan p

Dan, then you, being a Gentile, are still lost in sin with no hope. If Gentiles are not allowed entrance into the New Covenant (which is NOT what Scripture states, but what you are stating against scripture), then you are lost in sin and on your way to hell without any hope at all.

Why is that? It is because, Dan, you are pitting one passage of scripture against another on in war-like fashion. That is why you can't put 2 and 2 together. Look here again...

Romans 10:12
For there is now no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him.

Romans 11:11
So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.

Romans 11:17-21
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree,
18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.
19 Then you will say, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."
20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.

You have ignored 99% of what I stated. There is plenty more passages that state God has made a covenant that "whosoever will" can enter, it may be with the Jews directly, but it is also open to Gentiles. When we take the whole counsel of God's Word together, instead of pitting passage against passage - with is NOT how to study the Word of God for it does NOT contradict itself...ever.

Entering into the Covenant is important, because a man who hasn't entered into Covenant with God does not have eternal life, neither does he has the indwelling Spirit of God. Without the indwelling Spirit of God, we cannot ever hope to understand the Scriptures that were written and only rightly understood having the Spirit to guide our minds into that truth.

That is not an opinion, that is Scripture.

 

[ReformedPharisee]

I stand firmly behind the paper posted in the beginning of this thread: Covenant theology is based on error, by those who do not see any difference between the Israelite religion and the Church. That is sad to hear.

It is sad to hear, because that means people do not understand that the covenant is what makes that difference.

There are eight covenants shown in the Word of God: Edenic, Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, Palestinian, Davidic, New Covenant. All of these pertain to Israel. The New Covenant is NOT concerning the Church, but is shown in Hebrews as the promise to Israel as a nation, that God will again restore them as a people at the beginning of the Millennium period yet to come ---a new hope for them.

That is interesting, Watchman...that means that you have no eternal life, unless you are practicing Judaism. And if what you are saying is truth, which it isn't, then just why did God bring the Gentiles into the blessings of the New Covenant? If you read my earlier post, you know what I am talking about. If you did not, you need to, because it demonstrates that what you currently hold as doctrinal truth is a false teaching.

The failure by those who do not know what the Church is, causes the confusion we see. The Bible is all about God's dealings with His covenanted people of Israel.

Really? Then why is 90% of the New Testament Scriptures directed towards Gentiles and Gentile churches? You do err, sir.

The Church is a parenthesis in the Bible... The Lord will then begin the NEW COVENANT with Israel as He raises them up to rule over the Gentile world.

Again...really??? And who will mediate this Covenant? It will not be Christ, for He will come back again, but only as Conquerer. He mediated the New Covenant already, or don't you understand that the word "testament" is another word for "covenant?" The New Covenant is already here, in force, today, for both Jew and Gentile, and if people can't see that...well, based upon Covenant principles, it means they can't see it because they are not in Covenant with God.

This is the essence in brief of the whole story of Covenants and Testaments.

Actually, it isn't.

Thank God that those of us Gentiles who are brought in (grafted in) to the grace of God today will ever be with the Lord in His reign over the world for 1,000 years, and then return with Him to Heaven. God will then purge the earth (fire from Heaven) and have an earthly people (new Israel) and a heavenly people (the Bride of Christ) forever.

You are sounding like a Jehovah's Witness here. What you have stated above is not what Scripture teaches at all. Also, if there is no Covenant for the Gentiles to enter into, then you can believe what you wrote up there all you want to, but if you are not walking in Covenant Relationship with God, then you are lost in your sins and on your way to hell with no hope. You are only grafted in through the Covenant - but, as you say, if there is no Covenant, then you are NOT grafted in...you are still lost in your sin.

I rest my case, and hope others will be awakened to this truth and not fight against God's Word.

Your case is rested, and found highly at fault according to the full counsel of the whole Word of God. I'm just glad that most people don't believe this like you do, otherwise we would have a lot more lost people running around church landscape. I highly recommend a good study on the Covenant, but from what I hear, your mind is already made up.

Good luck.

 

[dan p]

It is sad to hear, because that means people do not understand that the covenant is what makes that difference.


That is interesting, Watchman...that means that you have no eternal life, unless you are practicing Judaism. And if what you are saying is truth, which it isn't, then just why did God bring the Gentiles into the blessings of the New Covenant? If you read my earlier post, you know what I am talking about. If you did not, you need to, because it demonstrates that what you currently hold as doctrinal truth is a false teaching.


Really? Then why is 90% of the New Testament Scriptures directed towards Gentiles and Gentile churches? You do err, sir.



Again...really??? And who will mediate this Covenant? It will not be Christ, for He will come back again, but only as Conquerer. He mediated the New Covenant already, or don't you understand that the word "testament" is another word for "covenant?" The New Covenant is already here, in force, today, for both Jew and Gentile, and if people can't see that...well, based upon Covenant principles, it means they can't see it because they are not in Covenant with God.

Actually, it isn't.

You are sounding like a Jehovah's Witness here. What you have stated above is not what Scripture teaches at all. Also, if there is no Covenant for the Gentiles to enter into, then you can believe what you wrote up there all you want to, but if you are not walking in Covenant Relationship with God, then you are lost in your sins and on your way to hell with no hope. You are only grafted in through the Covenant - but, as you say, if there is no Covenant, then you are NOT grafted in...you are still lost in your sin.

Your case is rested, and found highly at fault according to the full counsel of the whole Word of God. I'm just glad that most people don't believe this like you do, otherwise we would have a lot more lost people running around church landscape. I highly recommend a good study on the Covenant, but from what I hear, your mind is already made up.

Good luck.

Hi , and those I may NOT aggree with all of the OP , HE IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION , and Covenant theology has no chance as it is Snake eyes every time and they have not answered anyone one of my OP with proof , dan p

 

[ReformedPharisee]

Hi , and those I may NOT aggree with all of the OP , HE IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION , and Covenant theology has no chance as it is Snake eyes every time and they have not answered anyone one of my OP with proof , dan p

Actually, Dan, you have been given proof, and your refusal to even look at it and think upon it demonstrates your mind.

As I said before, good luck with that.
I truly hope you make it someday.