Spot on, I missed that! Too early in the morning.On the contrary I just said it was the "seventh day since his birth" and on the next day when another baby was circumcised that would be the "8th day" since that other baby was born... and on the day after that when another baby was circumcised - it was "the 8th day since that next baby was born".
Incredibly easy part of this discussion... I think we all get it.
Is the following law a commandment or a ceremonial law?Could you share with us the verses that detail the existence of these ceremonial laws and moral laws?
above was asked by someone elsewhere and I am curious.
Is the following law a commandment or a ceremonial law?
Exodus 22:22
You shall not oppress any widow or orphan.
If it is a ceremonial law then we can ignore it?
I actually have no idea what a ceremonial law is, as the scripture does not define a ceremonial law.How is it "ceremonial" in your view??
The law of circumcision existed prior to the temple. Therefore we shall walk by faith, keep the law of circumcision until the temple is built in the new Jerusalem.That is what God said about it... not me.
Is the following law a commandment or a ceremonial law?
Exodus 22:22
You shall not oppress any widow or orphan.
If it is a ceremonial law then we can ignore it?
The law that pertain to worship at the altar.
Hebrews 13:10
We have an altar from which the priests in the Tabernacle have no right to eat.
So now you are saying the circumcision requirement is a law for entrance into the temple?
The law of circumcision existed prior to the temple.
Is the following law a commandment or a ceremonial law?
Exodus 22:22
You shall not oppress any widow or orphan.
If it is a ceremonial law then we can ignore it?
I actually have no idea what a ceremonial law is
That law (Exodus 22:22) is not one of the ten commandments, therefore must be a ceremonial law. That is, according to SDA theology.
Could you share with us the verses that detail the existence of these ceremonial laws and moral laws?
above was asked by someone elsewhere and I am curious.
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10. What is the ceremonial law?Such laws and enactments which the Mosaic Religion demands of us Israelites only; we alone of all mankind being those who profess to follow and to be bound by this law. these enactments are called Chuckim or statutes.
"Behold I have taught you statutes and judgments, as the Lord my God commanded me, that you should do so in the land, whither ye go to possess it. Keep them and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, who shall hear all these statutes, and they will say, Surely this great nation is a wise and intelligent people." Deut. iv. 5,6.
11. On what is the ceremonial law founded?
It is based upon the peculiar relation of our forefathers and of us, the people of Israel, their descendants, towards God.
"And thou shalt remember that thou hast been a bondsman in Egypt: therefore, shalt thou observe and do these statutes." Deut. xvi. 12."
Catechism For Jewish Children: Chapter V - The Law Revealed Through Moses
CEREMONIES AND THE CEREMONIAL LAW - JewishEncyclopedia.com
"Moral Law
The moral laws, or mishpatim, relate to justice and judgment and are often translated as "ordinances." Mishpatim are said to be based on God's holy nature. As such, the ordinances are holy, just, and unchanging. Their purpose is to promote the welfare of those who obey. The value of the laws is considered obvious by reason and common sense. The moral law encompasses regulations on justice, respect, and sexual conduct, and includes the Ten Commandments. It also includes penalties for failure to obey the ordinances. Moral law does not point people to Christ; it merely illuminates the fallen state of all mankind."
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Ceremonial Law
The ceremonial laws are called hukkim or chuqqah in Hebrew, which literally means “custom of the nation”; the words are often translated as “statutes.” These laws seem to focus the adherent’s attention on God. They include instructions on regaining right standing with God (e.g., sacrifices and other ceremonies regarding “uncleanness”), remembrances of God’s work in Israel (e.g., feasts and festivals), specific regulations meant to distinguish Israelites from their pagan neighbors (e.g., dietary and clothing restrictions), and signs that point to the coming Messiah (e.g., the Sabbath, circumcision, Passover, and the redemption of the firstborn). Some Jews believe that the ceremonial law is not fixed. They hold that, as societies evolve, so do God’s expectations of how His followers should relate to Him. This view is not indicated in the Bible.
Christians are not bound by ceremonial law. Since the church is not the nation of Israel, memorial festivals, such as the Feast of Weeks and Passover, do not apply. Galatians 3:23-25 explains that since Jesus has come, Christians are not required to sacrifice or circumcise."
What is the difference between the ceremonial law, the moral law, and the judicial law in the Old Testament?
The word 'ceremonial' is not even in the scripture. How can someone then claim that a division exists in the law. A division between commandments and ceremonial law?Thankfully these groups have a lot more clarity on that point...
I am glad these Sunday sources all affirm all TEN of the Ten Commandments for Christians.
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
You are correct on this point.The Bible never uses the subcategories of ceremonial and moral laws.
The way that you are taught to read the scripture, is called an interpretation. Your traditional Catholic interpretation of the scripture calls the ten commandments the moral law. The scripture itself does not call the ten commandments the moral law.That is "you" quoting "you" - not me and not one of the Adventist 28 Fundamental Beliefs defining the theology of the SDA denomination.
Were we simply "not supposed to notice"??
The Bible never uses the subcategories of ceremonial and moral laws. .
The word 'ceremonial' is not even in the scripture. .
You also cited the 'Catholic catechism' to support your claim. Yet Bob, you are opposed strongly to the Catholic church and it's theology. .
You are definitely following a traditional understanding of the scripture. The reference to the 'Catholic catechism' proves that you follow tradition. .
The way that you are taught to read the scripture, is called an interpretation. Your traditional Catholic interpretation of the scripture
Is the following law a commandment or a ceremonial law?
Exodus 22:22
You shall not oppress any widow or orphan.
If it is a ceremonial law then we can ignore it?
I actually have no idea what a ceremonial law is
That law (Exodus 22:22) is not one of the ten commandments, therefore must be a ceremonial law. That is, according to SDA theology.
The scripture itself does not call the ten commandments the moral law.
Exodus 22:22
You shall not oppress any widow or orphan.
If your traditional Catholic interpretation of the scripture, calls Exodus 22:22, a ceremonial law.
How could anyone call Exodus 22:22, a mere ceremonial law, is beyond comprehension.
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