Could the fall of morals from the 1960s to now have been avoided?

[pc_76]

Do you think the relative freefall of morality that started around the 1960s could have been avoided? How in what kind of way?

I also don't believe we should go back to before the 1960s in all ways, but I believe the traditionalists and conservatives have a point sometimes.

 

[charsan]

Sure, if society did not refuse to turn away from God

 

[Nithavela]

Do you think the relative freefall of morality that started around the 1960s could have been avoided? How in what kind of way?

I also don't believe we should go back to before the 1960s in all ways, but I believe the traditionalists and conservatives have a point sometimes.

Which morals exactly do you mean? The ones where women were suppressed? Were black people were treated as second class citizens?

Don't bother to answer. It's obvious you mean sex. It's always about sex.

 

[Sabertooth]

Revivals and declines are a cycle. The Babylonian super-dynasty will never (nor can ever) be altruistic.

 

[pc_76]

Sure, if society did not refuse to turn away from God

What would that have required?

 

[Sabertooth]

What would that have required?

Adam & Eve to have rejected the Forbidden Fruit.

 

[pc_76]

Which morals exactly do you mean? The ones where women were suppressed? Were black people were treated as second class citizens?

Don't bother to answer. It's obvious you mean sex. It's always about sex.

It's so nice that I receive these attacks for just stating an opinion post.

 

[charsan]

What would that have required?

Repentance

 

[~Zao~]

The 60’s remind me of the last crusade that was the children’s crusade. Who needs to return to traditional control. Peace brother. (and sister)

 

[timothyu]

It's funny how in the 60's most of the world understood peace and agape love, while in the US everyone just dropped their pants while telling the women you've come a long way baby so the culture was already there (thanks sex symbols of the 40s and 50's) But responsibility still took it's place before demanding rights. . Once disco came along it was a free for all. But if the 50's generation will be honest they were no different. Just as many girls disappeared from high school for a time. They were just better at covering it up.

 

[hedrick]

What fall of morals? Standards for acceptable behavior in marriage are higher. We're much more concerned about all kinds of abusive relationships. While we haven't fixed racism, we've at least started. We're finally starting to take seriously what is known about human sexuality. Morals are doing just fine.

 

[comana]

Do you think the relative freefall of morality that started around the 1960s could have been avoided? How in what kind of way?

I also don't believe we should go back to before the 1960s in all ways, but I believe the traditionalists and conservatives have a point sometimes.

What specifically do you mean by free fall of morality?

 

[Chesterton]

Do you think the relative freefall of morality that started around the 1960s could have been avoided? How in what kind of way?

I also don't believe we should go back to before the 1960s in all ways, but I believe the traditionalists and conservatives have a point sometimes.

I don't think it could have been, when it was just a question of being outnumbered. And the immoral people knew to go into fields where they could eventually control the culture, i.e., education, media, politics, etc. You really can't stop that in a free society.

 

[pc_76]

What fall of morals? Standards for acceptable behavior in marriage are higher. We're much more concerned about all kinds of abusive relationships. While we haven't fixed racism, we've at least started. We're finally starting to take seriously what is known about human sexuality. Morals are doing just fine.

It's a mixed bag. Yet less people are getting married and divorces for those already married are at a much higher number today than decades ago, even though it's more just stagnating where it is now. Doesn't mean it's not a problem though.

 

[pc_76]

I don't think it could have been, when it was just a question of being outnumbered. And the immoral people knew to go into fields where they could eventually control the culture, i.e., education, media, politics, etc. You really can't stop that in a free society.

If immoral people knew about that, why couldn't moral people? Why do only immoral people get to be in those fields? That's another crazy thing I think isn't fair.

I have a theory that it's because we were too willing to turn the other cheek and be non-agressive.

 

[hedrick]

It's a mixed bag. Yet less people are getting married and divorces for those already married are at a much higher number today than decades ago, even though it's more just stagnating where it is now. Doesn't mean it's not a problem though.

I agree that divorce is a problem. Jesus pointed out that marriage is supposed to be forever. However in the past spouses (primarily women) were expected just to put up with unacceptable behavior. As divorce has become more acceptable, our expectations for what is acceptable in marriage have gone up. People now have a way out of these situations. I consider this a win, and a sign that our standards for marriage are now higher than they used to be.

But not all divorces are for abuse. I admit to being perplexed about some of them. One example occurred in our church. The question is, what would have happened 100 years ago when divorce wasn't available? Would the husband somehow not have checked out of the marriage? What would the impact have been on the wife and children?

Divorce isn't good for children. But the statistical analyses always compare broken families with intact families. It's much harder to compare divorced families with families that are just as broken but are forced to stay together. Perhaps there's a dark side to our higher standard for marriage, and our willingness to allow recourse when it isn't met. But I don't think it's clear.

 

[timothyu]

Why do only immoral people get to be in those fields?

I have a theory that it's because we were too willing to turn the other cheek and be non-agressive.

I have a feeling most went in with good intentions, save for the few of course of old families that had already been corrupted by power. What they found was the system was rigged in favour of the 1% and in order to survive within they had to change their values or hit the road.

The kids born in the 50's got off to a good start being force fed happily ever after, a by-product of the post war era and fuelled by the likes of Disney and early tv. But their false reality came crashing down with the death of Kennedy and the following murders in that decade of the guys in white hats, and they realized that Camelot was fake and power was corrupt. They immediately came out from hiding under their desks and lashed out at the war mongering military-industrial complex profiting by making wars (to this day). This was the epitome of the corrupt establishment. Religion with it's hypocrisy would follow shortly.

The following generations would no longer fall for the fairy tale ending BS but instead of lashing out, became self absorbed instead until we have what we have today as a result. This of course made the powers that be very happy because no one cared enough to keep them in line any more..

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

What specifically do you mean by free fall of morality?

Actually it was the product of the emerging consumer society - what Spengler understood to be Western Civilization's "winter" phase.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Do you think the relative freefall of morality that started around the 1960s could have been avoided? How in what kind of way?

I also don't believe we should go back to before the 1960s in all ways, but I believe the traditionalists and conservatives have a point sometimes.

Drugs came into America via the Vietnam war. This is where innocence started to diminish.

 

[Tinker Grey]

What fallen morality? Treatment of minorities is better. Violent crime is down. Divorce is down (so are marriage rates). Interracial marriage is accepted by the vast majority. What's the problem?