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Could God be the most emotional being in the universe????

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I studied near death experiences for years also. But one thing I learned is they are all different with a few elements that seem the same.

My advice would be to get back to the Bible and let all that go. God has told us what He wants us to know.

I can understand why you would think that.....
I have wondered about the exact same question but....

at this time I am convinced that NDE accounts will play a huge role in ushering in that time period when the majority of us, actually all of us from the least to the greatest, know G-d and have been given a heart to fear H-m!

The time when a hundred percent of us are led by the Holy Spirit.

At this time... we are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.
 
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Well I'm not sure how that is Biblical then. Another thing is most NDE's are not fear based.
 
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So I guess the idea is that in order to better understand God, we need to give Him human characteristics. And we justify doing so because people tend to describe things in human terms, so we that in the Bible. Sort of like what the ancient pagans did with their emotional (and very physical) gods.

Am not sure I would like a god that changes with his passions. Seems rather fickle and also dangerous to have Omnipotence be bipolar with emotions. As I recall the pagan gods could be very dangerous due to their emotions, often in cruel and very wicked ways. Not the sort of god I would want to imagine having Omnipotence.

I think things like love, joy, happiness can be expressed about God's intellect without envisioning a giant man like god crying like a baby one moment and laughing so his belly shakes the next. We can express love, joy and happiness both emotionally - as in passion and intellectually without passion. The passion part is moved by the intellect - our mind - to a physical response in our bodies. God like all spirits, does not have a body. So the whole idea that He has passions seems defeated not only by the idea God never changes, but also by His lacking a component part needed to have passions - a sensitive, physical body.

Just think a little how we express emotions/passions. Leap for joy. Swoon in love. Burning with anger. Shaking in fear. So angry there was shaking. Slumped in despair. Heart racing in love, anger, rage....etc. Our emotions require a body that is moved to express them. Without a body emotions and passion are not just meaningless, there no mechanism for a physical response to anything. That is not defect of our spirit(soul) either, it is simply a function/property of having a sensitive physical body.
 
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You have a lot of very unBiblical beliefs and I worry for you. You seem to like to dabble in things that are very outside of what God tells us.

Like you believe that you know better than God or something. My faith is in Christ and what Christ tells me.

If your spirit is in disagreement with His Word then your spirit is leading you astray.

Many people think they are smarter than Satan, who comes only to mame, kill and destroy, per Jesus Christ.
 
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Thank you for your prayers.......
I am now of the opinion that the Life Review part of near death experience accounts could be the fulfillment of a promise by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?


John 16:25

These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
 
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Or.... are some of our human characteristics a fulfillment of the statement to make man in our image?


Genesis 1:26


And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 
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So the thought is that God is a giant emotional hermaphrodite????
 
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So the thought is that God is a giant emotional hermaphrodite????

One theory is that the seven spirits of G-d = the Elohim of Genesis 1:26, 27.

There could be 14 Elohim, seven male and seven female.

Rev 1:4

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
 
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So the thought is that God is a giant emotional hermaphrodite????

One near death experiencer got the feeling that the Holy Spirit might be G-d the Mother.... The Shekina Glory of G-d.

Perhaps God the Father could be composed of Fundamental Energy Super Strings and God the Mother the Holy Spirit might be composed of Fundamental Energy Super Waves......... Dr. Chaim Tejman writes some interesting stuff on this.
 
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This would seem to correspond with the Creator actually having thought up and choreographed an infinite number of Big Events over infinite time in the past as some physicists seem to believe has been the case!
So... you choose to project far fetched naturalistic ideas on God?
There is 0 evidence of the existence of multiple universes.
They made the idea up to counter the lack of chance for our reality to come about by accident (as opposed to intentional).
Investing infinite time in the creation....would certainly tend to give the Creator a greater emotional attachment to all of us than we can begin to imagine...considering how young we are.
Time is apparently a property of the universe, and it depends on where we are between the beginning and the end of our universe if you want to call us young or old.
Unfathomable stuff though...

I think your question certainly has something to it though.
Maybe God is the most emotional being in existence.
He certainly doesn't come across as a psychopathic stoic.
"God is Love" indicates He certainly has / is strong emotions.

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If you don't mind me saying so, i want to suggest you take a critical look at Joyner before you decide to subscribe to his ideas.
 
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One of the most amazing intellects that I have ran into online began a thread with the title.....

Religious and Moral Implications of Artificial Intelligence.

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The best that I can come up with as a reply to him is that the tradition of "Lucifer"... especially as seen by near death experiencer Dr. Richard Eby....... could turn out to be anecdotal evidence that a younger intelligence........ than the Ancient of Days and the Word / Logos and the Holy Spirit.......

might tend to be LESS emotionally attached to other created intelligences ....... or even the Original Intelligence / Intelligences?!


I began a discussion on Dr. Richard Eby here somewhere........

Aha... there it is......


NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.


 
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John 11:35

Would you wept yourself if you knew that in a while you will rise guy from dead anyway?
 
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John 11:35

Would you wept yourself if you knew that in a while you will rise guy from dead anyway?

Great question....... yes..... when a miracle as huge as the resurrection of a dead person occurs...... it would seem that whoever prayed and set that in motion.... .must have had a pretty high level of compassion.... empathy...... and love......
 
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But the pagan gods were demons or Watchers or children of the Watchers and the daughters of men........ and were relatively YOUNG in comparison to the Ancient of Days the Father... and the Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit and the Word / Logos and the other seven or fourteen Elohim, (The Seven Spirits of G-d).... not to mention those 24....."Elders!"
 
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When we experience what we have already seen happen, it gives definition to the moment, even though we already knew it to be.

May I ask if you are able to identify with Pastor Rick Joyner's visionary dream from your own experience?

I had a couple of weird things happen to me since 1990...... but mine were short and sweet......... (ok.... sort of sweet)......... nothing as in depth as Pastor Rick had...... Have you read any of Pastor Rick's books that I gave a link to in post #89.......?
 
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I can ...
But no ...

There is a time coming (but now is) that all will sit under their own vine, and under their own fig tree, as the father does his.
 
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