Could cars reproduce?

[Speedwell]

I think your getting a bit over exited here, and things may be going a little haywire. Why didn't you quote me the normal way so I could see if indeed that was me that said what you claim?

Now quote what "I made up" the proper way so can verify it, as that doesn't sound at all like something I would say, but for the moment I'll give benefit of doubt.

If you are correct, I'll deal with it, If not, then....

Evolutionists: Stop making up false crap about creationists making up false crap about evolution..

LOL! I don't know how to quote from one thread to another. I'll bump it on the "Study" thread so you can see it.

 

[Kenny'sID]

LOL! I don't know how to quote from one thread to another. I'll bump it on the "Study" thread so you can see it.

Just quote it like you just quoted me here, but do it on that thread and copy the html and past here before you enter it.

 

[Speedwell]

Like genetic mutations increasing complexity as eradiating thousands of generations of fruit flies proved does not happen?
Like pointing to adaptation; a conservative process; and claiming that repeated subtraction leads to addition?
Like claiming that benevolent mutations, which almost never happen, are the driving force of life in the universe?

Look at that. It can be done. Thanks, Kenny; if you hadn't brought it up I never would have tried it.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Look at that. It can be done. Thanks, Kenny; if you hadn't brought it up I never would have tried it.

Your welcome, but you said I said that? What you are posting is from KWcrazy

 

[Speedwell]

Your welcome, but you said I said that? What you are posting is from KWcrazy

Hah! I'm an idiot! That's got to be the laugh of the day even if it is on me.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Hah! I'm an idiot! That's got to be the laugh of the day even if it is on me.

That's cool, could happen to anyone in the heat of a moment..

 

[doubtingmerle]

the same with this car. it will change over time and will be different from the starting car.

Sitting around and getting dusty is not the same thing as having a baby.

If you don't believe me, ask any mother.

 

[xianghua]

Sitting around and getting dusty is not the same thing as having a baby.

If you don't believe me, ask any mother.

we speak about changes so this is an evolutionery logic. not mine. so you have a problem with evolution basically...

 

[xianghua]

A car does not believe in God, therefore no God.

The above logic is as intellectually robust as your own logic.

do you agree that cars can be change naturally over time? yes or no?

 

[Jjmcubbin]

we speak about changes so this is an evolutionery logic. not mine. so you have a problem with evolution basically...

Please.
Evolution is change over time over GENERATIONS.
By your logic, me becoming an adult from a baby is also evolution.
Honestly, please go learn the definition of evolution before parading it around as false.

 

[xianghua]

Please.
Evolution is change over time over GENERATIONS.
By your logic, me becoming an adult from a baby is also evolution.
Honestly, please go learn the definition of evolution before parading it around as false.

again: i dont speak about evolutionery process but about the logic behind it. so do you agree that small changes can become into a big change over time? yes or no?

 

[Rivga]

do you agree that cars can be change naturally over time? yes or no?

No - someone redesigning a car and building a new one is not naturally is it now?

Naturally - without special intervention; in a natural manner.

In order to qualify for evolution a few more things are required:
1) Self replicating
2) The self replication process to not be accurate (make mistakes)
3) There to be a method that select the positive changes to the negative changes.
4) Time, (time required is directly linked to the frequency of inaccurate copies)

In the same why, that for a car to believe in God then the car would need to meet several other requirements.

But we both know that the comparison is miss leading, as using a car/watch or any other object that has traits already associated with it is purposely miss leading. So only one more thing to say

"Your self replicating car does not believe in God therefore God is not real"

 

[Jjmcubbin]

again: i dont speak about evolutionery process but about the logic behind it. so do you agree that small changes can become into a big change over time? yes or no?

In terms of evolution? Yes. That's how new species are formed.

 

[xianghua]

No - someone redesigning a car and building a new one is not naturally is it now?

Naturally - without special intervention; in a natural manner

i talking about the car itself. a car can change over time or not?

 

[xianghua]

In terms of evolution? Yes. That's how new species are formed.

in any terms and not just for evolution. right? for instance: a grain of sand+a grain of sand+time= a sand dune. so small steps can evolve into a big step. so why a car cant evolve into a truck by this logic?

 

[Speedwell]

i talking about the car itself. a car can change over time or not?

The car itself can change over time. It wears out and gets rusty. But that is not evolution by reproductive variation and natural selection.

 

[Speedwell]

in any terms and not just for evolution. right? for instance: a grain of sand+a grain of sand+time= a sand dune. so small steps can evolve into a big step. so why a car cant evolve into a truck by this logic?

Do you mean the car itself? Or a succession of cars, each one a little bit more truck-like?

 

[xianghua]

Do you mean the car itself? Or a succession of cars, each one a little bit more truck-like?

the car itself.

 

[Speedwell]

the car itself.

A car could be changed into a truck one small step at a time by a mechanic with a welder and a few extra parts, but that would not be evolution in any sense.

Evolution is about change over generations, with each generation being slightly different than their parents. Evolution is not about changes in any individual creature during its lifetime.

 

[Rivga]

i talking about the car itself. a car can change over time or not?

Ah right I see, your confused. The English language is not precise and either you are purposely miss using the definition of evolution or miss using it be accident.

Biological Evolution is gradual change in the characteristics of a population of animals or plants over successive generations:

Luckily when Science produces a hypothesis the first thing it does is start defining essential terms. Funny thing is Thesis use the same trick with the word Faith - Faith has 2 distinctive definition a usual one and a religious one.​

So the whole car thing fails - not an animal or plant, sorry!