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WELCOME TO CF ScarletThread!!
"'There are no atheists in foxholes' isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes."
-James Morrow
(I stole this from Pete Harcoff's sig, thanks Pete!)
-James Morrow
(I stole this from Pete Harcoff's sig, thanks Pete!)
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"In the end I like what "punk" stands for: If everyone agrees on it then it's probably wrong because by definition conformity is the majority. Go against that which popular society tells you not to go against and wage war on suburbia and suburban values. You know the one's I'm talkin' about : worship God, watch too much TV, inherit your parent's belief system, fear and discourage change, always do that which is obviously "right" and "good" and whatever you do don't make waves! I think that anyone who lives by those rules ends up feeling the most hatred and subsequently lives an unhappier life..." - Normal Bob Smith.com
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Although the scribes could explain where the Messiah should be born, they remained quite unperturbed in Jerusalem. They did not accompany the Wise Men to seek him. Similarly we may be able to explain every article of our faith, yet remain spiritually motionless. The power that moved heaven and earth leaves us completely unmoved.
What a contrast! The three kings had only a rumor to go by. But it spurred them to set out a long, hard journey. The scribes, meanwhile, were much better informed, much better versed. They had sat and studied the scriptures for years, like so many dons. But it didnt make any difference. Who had the more truth? Those who followed a rumor, or those who remained sitting, satisfied with all their knowledge?
-Søren Kierkegaard
What a contrast! The three kings had only a rumor to go by. But it spurred them to set out a long, hard journey. The scribes, meanwhile, were much better informed, much better versed. They had sat and studied the scriptures for years, like so many dons. But it didnt make any difference. Who had the more truth? Those who followed a rumor, or those who remained sitting, satisfied with all their knowledge?
-Søren Kierkegaard
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Christ showed His love for us by obediently going to
that cross and dying for us.
If we are saved we WILL love one another and show our
love in our actions and in truth.
that cross and dying for us.
If we are saved we WILL love one another and show our
love in our actions and in truth.
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tulc said:
" Monarch is night Of all eldest things,
Pain and affright, Rapturous Wings." Benet
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tulc said:
SELF-MASTERY
Those who know others are Intelligent
Those who know themselves have Insight.
Those who master others have Force.
Those who master themselves have Strength.
Those who know what is enough are Wealthy;
Those who perservere have Direction.
Those who maintain their positions Endure.
And those who die and yet do not perish,
Live on.
Lao Tze
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DEATH, BE NOT PROUD
Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so;
For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee do go,
Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery.
Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell;
And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?
One short sleep past, we wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.
-John Donne
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Death, be not proud, though some have called thee
Mighty and dreadful, for thou art not so;
For those whom thou think'st thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poor Death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleep, which but thy pictures be,
Much pleasure; then from thee much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee do go,
Rest of their bones, and soul's delivery.
Thou art slave to fate, chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poison, war, and sickness dwell;
And poppy or charms can make us sleep as well
And better than thy stroke; why swell'st thou then?
One short sleep past, we wake eternally,
And death shall be no more; Death, thou shalt die.
-John Donne
(1572-1631)
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Very nice!!!
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
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We need to find God, and he cannot be found in noise and restlessness. God
is the friend of silence. See how nature--trees, flowers, grass- grows in
silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence...We
need silence to be able to touch souls.
-Mother Teresa
is the friend of silence. See how nature--trees, flowers, grass- grows in
silence; see the stars, the moon and the sun, how they move in silence...We
need silence to be able to touch souls.
-Mother Teresa
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THE ROAD NOT TAKEN
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. -Robert Frost
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. -Robert Frost
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Pegasus, I love Robert Frost. My favorite is Stopping by woods on snowy evening.Pegasus said:
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For dsdumpling:
STOPPING BY WOODS ON A SNOWY EVENING
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. - Robert Frost
STOPPING BY WOODS ON A SNOWY EVENING
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. - Robert Frost
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