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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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elanor you know you can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned, right?
tulc(an elanor fan for a long time now!)
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~"Seven Deadly Sins:
Politics' without Principle.
Wealth without Work.
Commerce without Morality.
Pleasure without Conscience.
Education without Character.
Science without Humanity.
Worship without Sacrifice."
-Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
Politics' without Principle.
Wealth without Work.
Commerce without Morality.
Pleasure without Conscience.
Education without Character.
Science without Humanity.
Worship without Sacrifice."
-Mohandas K. Gandhi (1869-1948)
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GEORGE CARLIN POST 9-11:
" The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smallers families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more Degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgement, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living but not a life. We've added years to life, but not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned the air but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learn to rush but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast food and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits but shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you and a time when you can choose either to share this insight or just hit delete.
Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that person soon will grow up and leave your side. Remember to give a warm hug to the one next to you because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember to say "I love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there. Give time to love, give time to speak and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind."
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."
" The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smallers families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more Degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgement, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.
We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom and hate too often.
We've learned how to make a living but not a life. We've added years to life, but not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.
We've cleaned the air but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learn to rush but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies, but we communicate less and less.
These are the times of fast food and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits but shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you and a time when you can choose either to share this insight or just hit delete.
Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that person soon will grow up and leave your side. Remember to give a warm hug to the one next to you because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.
Remember to say "I love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there. Give time to love, give time to speak and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind."
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away."
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No Greater Love
People tend to think of nonviolence as a choice between using force and doing nothing. But for Jesus, the real choice takes place at another level. Nonviolence is less a matter of not killing and more a matter of showing compassion, of saving and redeeming, of being a healing community. One must choose between doing good to the person placed in ones path, or the evil which one might be doing by mere abstention. For Jesus, there is no no-mans-land, enabling us to portion our attitudes, to do a little good to our neighbor without taking the risk of becoming involved for his sake, or to do him a little harm while still remaining charitable...To do good is to save a person; not to do him good is to kill him. To save someone is to restore that person physically, socially, and spiritually. To neglect and postpone this restoration is already to kill.
-André Trocmé
People tend to think of nonviolence as a choice between using force and doing nothing. But for Jesus, the real choice takes place at another level. Nonviolence is less a matter of not killing and more a matter of showing compassion, of saving and redeeming, of being a healing community. One must choose between doing good to the person placed in ones path, or the evil which one might be doing by mere abstention. For Jesus, there is no no-mans-land, enabling us to portion our attitudes, to do a little good to our neighbor without taking the risk of becoming involved for his sake, or to do him a little harm while still remaining charitable...To do good is to save a person; not to do him good is to kill him. To save someone is to restore that person physically, socially, and spiritually. To neglect and postpone this restoration is already to kill.
-André Trocmé
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SOME ADVICE TO THOSE WHO WILL SERVE TIME IN PRISON
If instead of being hanged by the neck
you're thrown inside
for not giving up hope
in the world, your country, your people,
if you do ten or fifteen years
apart from the time you have left,
you won't say,
``Better I had swung from the end of a rope
like a flag'' -
You'll put your foot down and live.
It may not be a pleasure exactly,
but it's your solemn duty
to live one more day
to spite the enemy.
Part of you may live alone inside,
like a tone at the bottom of a well.
But the other part
must be so caught up
in the flurry of the world
that you shiver there inside
when outside, at forty days' distance, a leaf moves.
To wait for letters inside,
to sing sad songs,
or to lie awake all night staring at the ceiling
is sweet but dangerous.
Look at your face from shave to shave,
forget your age,
watch out for lice
and for spring nights,
and always remember
to eat every last piece of bread-
also, don't forget to laugh heartily.
And who knows,
the woman you love may stop loving you.
Don't say it's no big thing:
it's like the snapping of a green branch
to the man inside.
To think of roses and gardens inside is bad,
to think of seas and mountains is good.
Read and write without rest,
and I also advise weaving
and making mirrors.
I mean, it's not that you can't pass
ten or fifteen years inside
and more -
you can,
as long as the jewel
on the left side of your chest doesn't lose it's luster!
-Nazim Hikmet - May 1949
If instead of being hanged by the neck
you're thrown inside
for not giving up hope
in the world, your country, your people,
if you do ten or fifteen years
apart from the time you have left,
you won't say,
``Better I had swung from the end of a rope
like a flag'' -
You'll put your foot down and live.
It may not be a pleasure exactly,
but it's your solemn duty
to live one more day
to spite the enemy.
Part of you may live alone inside,
like a tone at the bottom of a well.
But the other part
must be so caught up
in the flurry of the world
that you shiver there inside
when outside, at forty days' distance, a leaf moves.
To wait for letters inside,
to sing sad songs,
or to lie awake all night staring at the ceiling
is sweet but dangerous.
Look at your face from shave to shave,
forget your age,
watch out for lice
and for spring nights,
and always remember
to eat every last piece of bread-
also, don't forget to laugh heartily.
And who knows,
the woman you love may stop loving you.
Don't say it's no big thing:
it's like the snapping of a green branch
to the man inside.
To think of roses and gardens inside is bad,
to think of seas and mountains is good.
Read and write without rest,
and I also advise weaving
and making mirrors.
I mean, it's not that you can't pass
ten or fifteen years inside
and more -
you can,
as long as the jewel
on the left side of your chest doesn't lose it's luster!
-Nazim Hikmet - May 1949
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Some people think God does not like to be troubled with our constant coming and asking. The way to trouble God is not to come at all. D. L. Moody
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"Anyone can become angry---that is easy. But to be angry with the right person, to the right degree, at the right time, for the right purpose, and in the right way---that is not easy."
Aristotle
From "Emotional Intelligence" Daniel Goleman
Aristotle
From "Emotional Intelligence" Daniel Goleman
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If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour,
imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started.
imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started.
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i liked that heeheeWell, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it.
-Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart in "Harvey")
-Elwood P. Dowd (Jimmy Stewart in "Harvey")
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"The winds are dark passages among the stars,
leading to whirling void pockest
encircled by seeds of thought
life force of creation."
Peter Blue Cloud ( Mohawk tribe)
"Music is the perfect expression of the soul."
Schumann
"Freedom above All!"
Beethoven
"I have full courage to face life, because I have access to the inexhaustible source of power at the center of my being."
leading to whirling void pockest
encircled by seeds of thought
life force of creation."
Peter Blue Cloud ( Mohawk tribe)
"Music is the perfect expression of the soul."
Schumann
"Freedom above All!"
Beethoven
"I have full courage to face life, because I have access to the inexhaustible source of power at the center of my being."
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There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears, and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call...The Twilight Zone.
-R. Serling - The Twilight Zone
-R. Serling - The Twilight Zone
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