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CarnalReligion · Nov 29, 2004

nhzname.

When you ask me to be willing to accept christ. It brings this to my mind :

If I went trick-or-treating and someone gave me an apple that I thought had a razor in it, what your saying is to take away the doubt that could save my life.

In the same way your asking me to believe in something that COULD be true but isnt absolutely certain.And could be a waste of time and mean less indulgence in pleasure during my life, which I may only have once. Thanks for your prayer but I have to have SOME doubt in this religion.

Locket · Nov 29, 2004

You know I was thinking about it today... that if I hadn't been raised in a Christian home and stuff I would've had big problems with God and all. I mean an invisible guy who sees-all/knows-all? A guy who's been there forever and was never created but just has always been?? It boggles the mind doesn't it?
But I don't swallow all this just because "Oh its what I was taught". I've looked at it and tried it. I've seen stuff... man oh man have I seen stuff. Camp, church that sort of thing. I've heard stories too. And then I have my own personal experiences.
I guess what I'm saying is don't take our word for it like everyone else has said. But don't jsut sit there and try to look at all this stuff either. Try it!

Locket · Nov 29, 2004

Just saw that last post. Isn't the same true for Satanism?

Mom wants on. See ya guys

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
nhzname.

When you ask me to be willing to accept christ. It brings this to my mind :

If I went trick-or-treating and someone gave me an apple that I thought had a razor in it, what your saying is to take away the doubt that could save my life.

Thanks for your prayer but I have to have SOME doubt in this religion.

Yes Carnal, but only in accepting the apple will you know for sure if there is a razor in it.

James 1:5-7 ~ If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord ...

Its all a matter of free will, Carnal. Are you willing to take a step of faith?

CarnalReligion · Nov 29, 2004

nhzname said:
Yes Carnal, but only in accepting the apple will you know for sure if there is a razor in it.

Maybe you should tell that to your child the next time he/she asks you if they can eat the apple.

You wouldnt would you.

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
Maybe you should tell that to your child the next time he/she asks you if they can eat the apple.

You wouldnt would you.

Now wouldn't that be silly. If you accept the apple and see the razor in it, would you eat it, or tell your child to eat it, knowing there was a razor in it? I guess not.

But like I was implying ... suspecting there's a razor and actually seeing the razor are two different things. You're not going to know for sure if you don't accept the apple and check it out for yourself.

persianboy · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
I think people should buy a copy of the satanic bible whether they believe in god or not. They should have the basic knowledge of kinds of satanism. And if you are the kind of person who doesnt want there home or mind to be corrupted with it. Then I dont know what to say, just that it should be read.

Paul in romans tells us that he would rather us be "wise in righteousness, and innocent in evil"..Do not become obsessed with learning about evil...be obsessed with learning about God.

CarnalReligion · Nov 29, 2004

nhzname said:
Now wouldn't that be silly. If you accept the apple and see the razor in it, would you eat it, or tell your child to eat it, knowing there was a razor in it? I guess not.

But like I was implying ... suspecting there's a razor and actually seeing the razor are two different things. You're not going to know for sure if you don't accept the apple and check it out for yourself.

okok, but how do you know that there is an razor in it?, you cant check because there is no scientific reason why christianity is rational. So its taking a dive into a pool hoping theres water in it.

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
okok, but how do you know that there is an razor in it?, you cant check because there is no scientific reason why christianity is rational. So its taking a dive into a pool hoping theres water in it.

You check the apple by looking it over and cutting it open with a knife or something, right? You don't have to bit into it. But you know this.

So ... I guess there's scientic proof that Satanism or any other belief is rational?

Christianity is built on a belief in Jesus Christ, and you have been given scientific rationalization to the accuracy of prophecy in some of your other posts. But has that changed your mind about whether you're going to believe? You have to decide what its going to take, but quite frankly, until God Himself reveals Himself to you, you will not believe, because even our measure of faith comes from Him.

If you really want to know, understand, and believe, keep seeking. God will be found by those who seek him with all their hearts.

Reformationist · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
Any of you out there who know there bible really well and study alot. I would like you to convince me to believe in Christ and God. I have done alot of studies to and at the moment I am athiest. But dont just tell me have faith in eternal life cause christ gave his life for you. Back up your word please.

Thanks

No one can convince you to believe in God except God.

If He gives you faith, then you will believe.

My encouragement to you is to consider the insight of knowledgeable Christians and ask questions if you have them.

God bless

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

Reformationist said:
No one can convince you to believe in God except God.

If He gives you faith, then you will believe.

God bless

Wow, thanx for the confirmation Bro. We were probably typing at the same time.

Praise the Lord for His Holy Spirit at work in His children.

Reformationist · Nov 29, 2004

nhzname said:
Wow, thanx for the confirmation Bro. We were probably typing at the same time.

LOL! You're welcome.

Praise the Lord for His Holy Spirit at work in His children.

CarnalReligion · Nov 29, 2004

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Daughter of His · Nov 29, 2004

A lot to process.

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
. . .

? Did I miss something?

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

Daughter of His said:
A lot to process.

Yes, but thankfully the Lord helps us when we ask Him.

CarnalReligion · Nov 29, 2004

I jus duno what to say anymore

Daughter of His · Nov 29, 2004

Yep, me neither, but you can know we are here for you. You probably need a break, come back when you want or have questions, lots of nice people here who care.

Reformationist · Nov 29, 2004

nhzname said:
Yes, but thankfully the Lord helps us when we ask Him.

He helps us even when we don't ask Him, though we should still ask for His help.

God bless

nhzname · Nov 29, 2004

CarnalReligion said:
I jus duno what to say anymore

Well, hopefully Carnal, you'll take all this information, mix it with a willingness to believe, and allow God to help you process it. I'm going to keep praying ...

Blessings to you ... n hz name

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