Makes one wonder, quite frankly, if these false commandments to keep pumping out children will not have a very direct impact on the great famine in the end of days.The earth has a finite amount of land and this land can only produce a given amount of meat or produce.
amen and amen.
Three times that I have seen in scriptures man is told to 'be fruitful and multiply.
In the beginning, after the flood and for the growth of the Hebrew nation and the 12 tribes.
Some take those instructions and seemingly make it so that now we have to ignore the intelligence GOD gave us and become baby making machines until our bodies can no longer produce offspring.
Preposterous....
well, I mean, what about David and Solomon and all the wives they had ?Yeah I donlt get it either.
amen and amen.
Three times that I have seen in scriptures man is told to 'be fruitful and multiply.
In the beginning, after the flood and for the growth of the Hebrew nation and the 12 tribes.
Some take those instructions and seemingly make it so that now we have to ignore the intelligence GOD gave us and become baby making machines until our bodies can no longer produce offspring.
Preposterous....
well, I mean, what about David and Solomon and all the wives they had ?
If we are supposed to keep relentlessly cranking out kids until death both of those men should have had countless children...*IF* they had actually believed like some preach today.
kaaahn-tekst ?Of all the arguments against contraception, "be fruitful and multiply" is the absolute worse, given the context of times in which it was stated.
I would have been kicked out of philosophy class for presenting an argument that bad.
We definitely live in a different world.And the funny thing is they likely didn;t. Yes kids were important but there were still forms of contraceptive used back then to control how many children people had. And people did have more children back then but a lot of that likely had to do with the fact that most people died in infancy.
Luckily we have confidence that, before anything happens to this world and no matter what happens to this world..Christ will return!!We definitely live in a different world.
David surely wasnt worrying about BILLIONS of people overpopulating his world, for sure.
One thing that pretty much always come with overpopulation is disease. Its just a matter of time, folks.
If it werent for medical advancement making it possible to keep disease under control we can rest assured that a plague with proportions to the Black Death would have already destroyed millions or even billions.
As someone else said, this planet is finite. Just look at the population exposion over the last 100 years. In another hundred years Id be willing to bet that not even the medical establishment will be able to contain the disease and sickness.
And who should we thank in part for the overpopulating of the planet ?
Luckily we have confidence that, before anything happens to this world and no matter what happens to this world..Christ will return!!
Yep, He will return.Luckily we have confidence that, before anything happens to this world and no matter what happens to this world..Christ will return!!
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
(Rev 18:8 KJV)
That is why in the NT marriage is limited to 1 man and 1 woman... and not to remarry after one dies.
So has God told us that abortions are Ok, and we should prevent birth because we don't want to over populate the earth... I don't see any where in the bible where God has told us to stop having children of fear of over population..... But maybe the bible is outdated... and we should get a new one where we can update it and make it ok to stop procreation.
And Make it ok to go to furtility clinics and trust in other methods of Birth Control and furtility control because God won't do it for us. I guess God has just given up on us so we have to take matters into our own hands and make up a truth that suits our needs instead of God's...
It's not that I think God's given up on us, it's that he's endowed us with the gift of intelligence and reason and expects us to use those gifts.That is why in the NT marriage is limited to 1 man and 1 woman... and not to remarry after one dies.
So has God told us that abortions are Ok, and we should prevent birth because we don't want to over populate the earth... I don't see any where in the bible where God has told us to stop having children of fear of over population..... But maybe the bible is outdated... and we should get a new one where we can update it and make it ok to stop procreation.
And Make it ok to go to furtility clinics and trust in other methods of Birth Control and furtility control because God won't do it for us. I guess God has just given up on us so we have to take matters into our own hands and make up a truth that suits our needs instead of God's...
There is no way I will give birth to 5 or 6 children.That is why in the NT marriage is limited to 1 man and 1 woman... and not to remarry after one dies.
So has God told us that abortions are Ok, and we should prevent birth because we don't want to over populate the earth... I don't see any where in the bible where God has told us to stop having children of fear of over population..... But maybe the bible is outdated... and we should get a new one where we can update it and make it ok to stop procreation.
And Make it ok to go to furtility clinics and trust in other methods of Birth Control and furtility control because God won't do it for us. I guess God has just given up on us so we have to take matters into our own hands and make up a truth that suits our needs instead of God's...
There is no way I will give birth to 5 or 6 children.
It fascinates me when men suggest women shouldn't be using contraceptives. It is very easy to say that when you're role in pregnancy - in the physical sense - involved [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] and [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Yet a woman - morning sickness, weight gain, sore breasts, sore back, swollen feet... Oh yeah.
If the situation were reversed and men were the ones getting pregnant, you honestly believe you'd be suggesting men not use contraceptives?
well, I mean, what about David and Solomon and all the wives they had ?
If we are supposed to keep relentlessly cranking out kids until death both of those men should have had countless children...*IF* they had actually believed like some preach today.
Luckily we have confidence that, before anything happens to this world and no matter what happens to this world..Christ will return!!
That is why in the NT marriage is limited to 1 man and 1 woman... and not to remarry after one dies.
So has God told us that abortions are Ok
and we should prevent birth because we don't want to over populate the earth
I don't see any where in the bible where God has told us to stop having children of fear of over population..... But maybe the bible is outdated... and we should get a new one where we can update it and make it ok to stop procreation.
And Make it ok to go to furtility clinics and trust in other methods of Birth Control and furtility control because God won't do it for us. I guess God has just given up on us so we have to take matters into our own hands and make up a truth that suits our needs instead of God's...
Psalm 127:
3Behold, children are a gift of the LORD,
The fruit of the womb is a reward.
4Like arrows in the hand of a warrior,
So are the children of one's youth.
5How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them;
We all know many catholics tdig, bless your heart.Today, the Catholic Church alone proclaims the historic Christian position on contraception.
Actually, it doesnt say specifically what was displeasingAnd what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord, and he slew him also" (Gen. 38:810).
The biblical penalty for not giving your brothers widow children was public humiliation, not death (Deut. 25:710). But Onan received death as punishment for his crime. This means his crime was more than simply not fulfilling the duty of a brother-in-law. He lost his life because he violated natural law,
But was it established?Contraception was so far outside the biblical mindset and so obviously wrong that it did not need the frequent condemnations other sins did. Scripture condemns the practice when it mentions it. Once a moral principle has been established in the Bible, every possible application of it need not be mentioned.
3) Children in scripture: No where in scripture do you find a passage that says blessed is a man who only has two children so he can afford their college education. Or the Woman who has at least a four year gap so she is not stuck double diapering or a couple that waits five years before having kids.
4) Soveriegnty of God: Could God have a better plan for your life then you do?
This contradicts your number four.5) NFP (Natural Family Planning) is a balance the church has given us by acknowledging grave reasons that a couple could prayerfully decern as far as they can tell would be better to not have children,
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