Continuation of Enoch's Intercalary Lunar Months

[Humble Penny]

Well brother if you can provide Scripture which proves the shape of the earth, then I'm open to hearing it. Otherwise since it's clear that the Bible doesn't support a globe earth or a heliocentric model that means we have to rethink our understanding of what the Bible is actually communicating, and in many cases this means we'll have to correct our mathematical and scientific understandings.

@Filippus On second thought it's best to create a separate thread on this so we don't go off topic on the subject of the OP of my thread here

 

[daq]

Because you don't discuss.

Maybe you haven't seen it but I do indeed discuss many things, and do so with anyone else who is willing to do so: especially those who are willing to do so politely.

 

[Filippus]

Maybe you haven't seen it but I do indeed discuss many things, and do so with anyone else who is willing to do so: especially those who are willing to do so politely.

Sorry I was referring to post 15 from HP.
I am bad.

 

[daq]

Sorry I was referring to post 15 from HP.
I am bad.

Ah, okay, it's all good.

 

[Filippus]

In a previous thread I introduced everyone to how Enoch wanted us to properly reconcile the lunar year with the solar year. And in that thread I was just in my intial understanding of what Enoch was wisely telling us which you can view by following the hyperlink:

Introduction to Enoch's Intercalary Lunar Months

In that thread I was under the wrong impression that every 5 Years you intercalate the extra 1 Month/30 Days accrued by the Sun to the previous 3 Year period within that five year cycle. However I found that wasn't in line with this simple formula Enoch was sharing with us:

Solar & Astral Cycle at end of 50 Year Jubilee Cycle
(360 Days x 50 Years) + (4 Seasonal/Intercalary Days x 50 Years) =
18,000 Days + 200 Days = 18,200 Days

Lunar Cycle Reconciled at end of 50 Year Jubilee Cycle
(354 Days x 50 Years) +
(6 Overplus Days x 5 Years x 10 Intercalary Periods) +
(4 Seasonal/Intercalary Days x 50 Years) =
17,700 Days + 300 Days + 200 Days = 18,200 Days

To correctly intercalate the additional 1 Lunar Month you must add them once every 5 Years so that 5 Lunar Years are equal to 5 Solar Years, and this is becuase each year the Sun has an overplus of 6 Days so that after 5 Years the Sun has an overplus of 30 Days/1 Month:

3 Year Cycle
====
Sun
====
360 Solar Days x 3 Years = 1,080 Solar Days
4 Seasonal Days x 3 Years = 12 Days
1,092 Solar Days

======
Moon
======
354 Lunar Days x 3 Years = 1,062 Lunar Days
6 Overplus Days x 3 Years = 18 Days
1,080 Lunar Days

5 Year Cycle
====
Sun
====
360 Solar Days x 5 Years = 1,800 Solar Days
4 Seasonal Days x 5 Years = 20 Days
1,820 Solar Days

======
Moon
======
354 Lunar Days x 5 Years = 1,770 Lunar Days
6 Overplus Days x 5 Years = 30 Days
1,800 Lunar Days + (4 Seasonal Days x 5 Years) =
1,800 Lunar Days + 20 Days = 1,820 Days

Here are two screenshots clearly showing what I have written above:

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As everyone can see this is much clearer and perfectly in line with the words of 1 Enoch 74. I must thank brother @daq for sharing his link for the interlinear Ge'ez for the Ethiopic version of 1 Enoch 74 which clearly shows us that the Moon completes all of its years in 364 Days with the Sun and stars:

1 Enoch 74 (Richard Laurence)
1 Enoch 74 (R.H. Charles)
1 Enoch 74 (Ethiopic Interlinear)

The reason why you don't see this in the translation of R.H. Charles is becuase he assumed that since Enoch referred to the Sun and stars completing the year in 364 Days, that the Ethiopic text was in "error" for saying the Moon could do so; and, in the end R.H. Charles ended up in vain concluding that Enoch "must have been following the 8 Year Greek Cycle" without actually being able to prove this. The translation of 1 Enoch done by Richard Laurence (1838 AD) is the only English translation--to my knowledge--to preserve what we read in the Ge'ez text.

In closing I pray this proves useful to everyone wanting to find the truth for themselves about the calendar. This is the way you would properly reconcile the lunar year with true solar year established by YHWH of 360 Days with 4 Intercalary/Seasonal Days reckoned at the end of the year instead of during the year.

30 days difference after 24 years

 

[Humble Penny]

30 days difference after 24 years
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Nice try but your chart adds up the lunar days incorrectly. Instead of listing the details I'll let the differences in our graphs expose your errors:

Humble Penny

Filippus

If the public compares years #1-#24 in both of our graphs yours was deceptively altered.

 

[Filippus]

Nice try but your chart adds up the lunar days incorrectly. Instead of listing the details I'll let the differences in our graphs expose your errors:

Humble Penny
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Filippus
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If the public compares years #1-#24 in both of our graphs yours was deceptively altered.

yes notice that

 

[Filippus]

Instead of listing the details I'll let the differences in our graphs expose your errors:

Yip and there he is again, is your next post going to be personal again or is your head still stuck in the door?

 

[Humble Penny]

yes notice that

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Yip and there he is again, is your next post going to be personal again or is your head still stuck in the door?

I have no problem exposing snkaes. If you look at Year 3 in both of our graphs yours is at 1,092 Lunar Days while mine is at 1,062 Lunar Days. You performed the following arithmetic to make it seem as if our graphs were identical from Years 1 thru Year 5:

Filippus
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,092 Days = 1,062 Days + 30 Days
Year 4 = 1,446 Days = 1,092 Days + 354 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,446 Days + 354 Days

Humble Penny
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,062 Days
Year 4 = 1,416 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,770 Days + 30 Days

Aside from this error if one simply observes solar and lunar years you list under these select years they'll notice the following oddities in your graph:

• Year 5 has a difference of 20 Days
• Year 10 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 15 both days are even.
• Year 20 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 24 has a difference of 30 Days

The only way for this to be possible is if you added the intercalary Lunar months in the following way:

• 30 Days to Year 3
• 30 Days to Year 7
• 30 Days to Year 8
• 30 Days to Year 11
• 30 Days to Year 14
• 30 Days to Year 16
• 30 Days to Year 19
• 30 Days to Year 22
• 30 Days to Year 24

The following years shows you having added 384 Lunar Days instead of 354 Lunar Days. Funny you didn't continue your deceit all the way to Year 50...wonder why? Also good trick to throw in the unrelated Julian Calendar to mask your sleight of hand...straight amateur.

 

[Humble Penny]

30 days difference after 24 years
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yes notice that

View attachment 313017

I have no problem exposing snkaes. If you look at Year 3 in both of our graphs yours is at 1,092 Lunar Days while mine is at 1,062 Lunar Days. You performed the following arithmetic to make it seem as if our graphs were identical from Years 1 thru Year 5:

Filippus
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,092 Days = 1,062 Days + 30 Days
Year 4 = 1,446 Days = 1,092 Days + 354 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,446 Days + 354 Days

Humble Penny
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,062 Days
Year 4 = 1,416 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,770 Days + 30 Days

Aside from this error if one simply observes solar and lunar years you list under these select years they'll notice the following oddities in your graph:

• Year 5 has a difference of 20 Days
• Year 10 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 15 both days are even.
• Year 20 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 24 has a difference of 30 Days

The only way for this to be possible is if you added the intercalary Lunar months in the following way:

• 30 Days to Year 3
• 30 Days to Year 7
• 30 Days to Year 8
• 30 Days to Year 11
• 30 Days to Year 14
• 30 Days to Year 16
• 30 Days to Year 19
• 30 Days to Year 22
• 30 Days to Year 24

The following years shows you having added 384 Lunar Days instead of 354 Lunar Days. Funny you didn't continue your deceit all the way to Year 50...wonder why? Also good trick to throw in the unrelated Julian Calendar to mask your sleight of hand...straight amateur.

Dear Readers,

Please observe what dishonest people will do and how they can never hide from the Light of Truth:

Falsehood of Filippus

If one pays close attention to the columns labeled Lunar 8 and Lunar of Filippus' false tables you will notice the following differences in his lunar days for the following years:

• Year 5 (1,800 - 1,770 Days = 30)
• Year 10 (3,630 - 3,540 = 90)
• Year 15 (5,460 - 5,310 = 150)
• Year 20 (7,290 - 7,080 = 210)
• Year 25 (9,120 - 8,850 = 270)

If you look at the blue bolded numbers you'll notice that to reach them Filippus had to add 60 Days each time. It's clear he put some thought and time into this graph of his before posting it.

In closing dear readers you see how low people will stoop in order to combat the Truth. The great thing is that exposing falsehood is always guaranteed by this simple but powerful principle:

Fakes, forgeries, lies, and counterfeits cannot exist without the Truth existing first. For without the Truth there is nothing for liars to lie about.

 

[Filippus]

I have no problem exposing snkaes.

So I am being a snake by trying to work with you?

I have corrected the table in the second post to line up with your table adding the 30 years like you do.

I did not claim the table to be mine.

However I have included the Julian and Solar compensated in 8 years to show the drift, which clearly isn't taken well.

Now if you want to continue your personal attacks go ahead, it doesn't change your table.

Shalom

 

[Filippus]

 

[Filippus]

Dear Readers,

Please observe what dishonest people will do and how they can never hide from the Light of Truth:

Falsehood of Filippus
View attachment 313018

If one pays close attention to the columns labeled Lunar 8 and Lunar of Filippus' false tables you will notice the following differences in his lunar days for the following years:

• Year 5 (1,800 - 1,770 Days = 30)
• Year 10 (3,630 - 3,540 = 90)
• Year 15 (5,460 - 5,310 = 150)
• Year 20 (7,290 - 7,080 = 210)
• Year 25 (9,120 - 8,850 = 270)

If you look at the blue bolded numbers you'll notice that to reach them Filippus had to add 60 Days each time. It's clear he put some thought and time into this graph of his before posting it.

In closing dear readers you see how low people will stoop in order to combat the Truth. The great thing is that exposing falsehood is always guaranteed by this simple but powerful principle:

Fakes, forgeries, lies, and counterfeits cannot exist without the Truth existing first. For without the Truth there is nothing for liars to lie about.

Solar 8 is adding a leap month synchronizing it every 8 years.
After 24 years you will require 30 days.

So where is the falsehood?

Shalom

 

[Humble Penny]

So I am being a snake by trying to work with you?

I have corrected the table in the second post to line up with your table adding the 30 years like you do.

I did not claim the table to be mine.

However I have included the Julian and Solar compensated in 8 years to show the drift, which clearly isn't taken well.

Now if you want to continue your personal attacks go ahead, it doesn't change your table.

Shalom

View attachment 313020

So you claim to not own the table you put up on posts #34, #36, and #41. Yet somehow you are able to change it on the drop of a hat when called out...this means if it's true you're working with someone else to create these false tables.

Also I noticed you not only changed the colors between the two graphs but also changed the numbers under the column labeled Lunar, and you removed Year 25 from the lighter colored graphs I'll show below:

Original Table from Post #34

Chart from Posts #36

Post #41

Please stop your horrible acting and false front of friendship with me.

 

[Filippus]

 

[Humble Penny]

I have no problem exposing snkaes. If you look at Year 3 in both of our graphs yours is at 1,092 Lunar Days while mine is at 1,062 Lunar Days. You performed the following arithmetic to make it seem as if our graphs were identical from Years 1 thru Year 5:

Filippus
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,092 Days = 1,062 Days + 30 Days
Year 4 = 1,446 Days = 1,092 Days + 354 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,446 Days + 354 Days

Humble Penny
Year 1 = 354 Days
Year 2 = 708 Days
Year 3 = 1,062 Days
Year 4 = 1,416 Days
Year 5 = 1,800 Days = 1,770 Days + 30 Days

Aside from this error if one simply observes solar and lunar years you list under these select years they'll notice the following oddities in your graph:

• Year 5 has a difference of 20 Days
• Year 10 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 15 both days are even.
• Year 20 has a difference of 10 Days
• Year 24 has a difference of 30 Days

The only way for this to be possible is if you added the intercalary Lunar months in the following way:

• 30 Days to Year 3
• 30 Days to Year 7
• 30 Days to Year 8
• 30 Days to Year 11
• 30 Days to Year 14
• 30 Days to Year 16
• 30 Days to Year 19
• 30 Days to Year 22
• 30 Days to Year 24

The following years shows you having added 384 Lunar Days instead of 354 Lunar Days. Funny you didn't continue your deceit all the way to Year 50...wonder why? Also good trick to throw in the unrelated Julian Calendar to mask your sleight of hand...straight amateur.

Dear Readers,

Please observe what dishonest people will do and how they can never hide from the Light of Truth:

Falsehood of Filippus
View attachment 313018

If one pays close attention to the columns labeled Lunar 8 and Lunar of Filippus' false tables you will notice the following differences in his lunar days for the following years:

• Year 5 (1,800 - 1,770 Days = 30)
• Year 10 (3,630 - 3,540 = 90)
• Year 15 (5,460 - 5,310 = 150)
• Year 20 (7,290 - 7,080 = 210)
• Year 25 (9,120 - 8,850 = 270)

If you look at the blue bolded numbers you'll notice that to reach them Filippus had to add 60 Days each time. It's clear he put some thought and time into this graph of his before posting it.

In closing dear readers you see how low people will stoop in order to combat the Truth. The great thing is that exposing falsehood is always guaranteed by this simple but powerful principle:

Fakes, forgeries, lies, and counterfeits cannot exist without the Truth existing first. For without the Truth there is nothing for liars to lie about.

Solar 8 is adding a leap month synchronizing it every 8 years.
After 24 years you will require 30 days.

So where is the falsehood?

Shalom

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Yeah again good try to mask your sleight of hand which I already unraveled and explained in the posts of mine I quoted in this post.

 

[Filippus]

So you claim to not own the table you put up on posts #34, #36, and #41. Yet somehow you are able to change it on the drop of a hat when called out...this means if it's true you're working with someone else to create these false tables.

Also I noticed you not only changed the colors between the two graphs but also changed the numbers under the column labeled Lunar, and you removed Year 25 from the lighter colored graphs I'll show below:

Original Table from Post #34
View attachment 313021

Chart from Posts #36
View attachment 313022

Post #41
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Please stop your horrible acting and false front of friendship with me.

Listen I built this table a couple of hours ago.

I noticed that you added the 30 years in your lunar column while correcting it you posted 35 and I acknowledged it in 36.

Did you get that?

I have inserted the two columns to the left to show the drift.

Not once did I claim the Table as mine!

I simply put it in perspective with the tropical year.

Now all your name calling and personal attacks only exposes yourself.

Shalom

 

[Filippus]

Yeah again good try to mask your sleight of hand which I already unraveled and explained in the posts of mine I quoted in this post.

The only thing that is exposed or unravelled is that your calendar drifts and I haven't seen a proposal on how it's synchronized back to the tropical year unless I have missed it through all these personal attacks.

Shalom

 

[Humble Penny]

So I am being a snake by trying to work with you?

I have corrected the table in the second post to line up with your table adding the 30 years like you do.

I did not claim the table to be mine.

However I have included the Julian and Solar compensated in 8 years to show the drift, which clearly isn't taken well.

Now if you want to continue your personal attacks go ahead, it doesn't change your table.

Shalom

Listen I built this table a couple of hours ago.

I noticed that you added the 30 years in your lunar column while correcting it you posted 35 and I acknowledged it in 36.

Did you get that?

I have inserted the two columns to the left to show the drift.

Not once did I claim the Table as mine!

I simply put it in perspective with the tropical year.

Now all your name calling and personal attacks only exposes yourself.

Shalom

So you contradict yourself because you want to make it seem as if you didn't create the tables in the first post of yours I quoted, then in post #39 you say you built the table a couple of hours ago. How do you build a table you say isn't yours?

Also in my first quote on post #37 I show how you actually insert a leap month a total of 9 Times every 1-3 Years instead of 3 Times every 8 Years like you try to make it seem.

 

[Filippus]

So you contradict yourself because you want to make it seem as if you didn't create the tables in the first post of yours I quoted, then in post #46 you say you built the table a couple of hours ago. How do you build a table you say isn't yours?

Also in my first quote on post #45 I show how you actually insert a leap month a total of 9 Times every 1-3 Years instead of 3 Times every 8 Years like you try to make it seem.

Your calendar drifts.
Shalom