Consider this...

[SecretOfFatima]

I know we're suppose to be playing a game, but my little brother is deaf and we had to deal with this issue in real life. It was very hard to come up with the best answer to explain to him he's JUST like the rest of us, even better...

Well, the only answer we came up with is "God has blessed us with you... you've taught us how to love unconditionally, we must respect differences. You've taught us that love comes in any form.. you've opened our eyes and heart, Thank You for being part of our family."

You said it, GOD works in amazing ways



Trust GOD from the bottom of your heart; don't try to figure out everything on your own. Listen for GOD's voice in everything you do, everywhere you go; he's the one who will keep you on track.
Psalm 37:5
Commit your way to the LORD ; trust in him and he will do this
1 Peter 5:7 The Message
Live carefree before God; he is most careful with you
Psalm 91:2 Cev
Then you will say to the LORD, "You are my fortress, my place of safety; you are my God, and I trust you."
Matthew 11:28-29
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Philippians 4:6-7 Niv
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus

 

[muslim_convert]

You know this is what i love the most.

People of different faiths showing how their teachings can be applied to our daily lives.

I learn a lot about my own faith just by listening to people talk about how their own faith applies to everday life.

I tried to start a similar thread a while back but i didn't get any responses.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2362263-interfaith-dialogue-on-chaplaincy.html

Enemyof Hate, the Biblical passages you quoted would be very comforting, particularly for those who are thoughtful.

salaams

 

[xAtheistx]

Have you considered that they might be better than you?

Being disabled in one thing doesn't imply being less able in everything.

For a start, they might well be more compasionate than you.

Of course. I'm not perfect. I'm certainly not very compassionate. (although I can spell it...)
My friend is in constant pain and suffering because of her disability. She's asleep right now, and I know she is in pain. Having a disabled sibling would be similar: I would worry about their disability even if they could kick my ass in some other area... like compassion.
I don't like very many people, and it pains me when one of the few I do is not able to live their life to it's fullest possible extent.

His brother will be judged by the strength of his faith not the strength of his body.

Do I get negative points then? I hope we go by golf scores in hell...

Trust GOD from the bottom of your heart; don't try to figure out everything on your own.

At least they're telling it like it is now...

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

I would hate having a disabled sibling.

I don't pretend to be kind. I don't treat the disabled equally--because they're not. That's why they've got the label "disabled."

I would hate to have to pretend they were equal, a duty I would feel warranted by being their sibling.

I have a friend who is disabled however, and I show them nothing but pity. It's almost annoying now, because everytime I see them I feel nothing else.

That's why I said we've been blessed to have him in our life, not yours. (thank God, cause my poor brother would of lived in hell because of you) Why would you want to pretend to be kind? Be genuine... it's easier.

BUT I must thank you...your not the first person to react like this. (and trust me when I say this, it's taken me a loooong time to understand and be thankful, cause I was all about giving beat downs to people like you!)....it gives my brother strength to be the best he can be (myself included)... He's overcome allot in his 22 years. He's completed high school, finishing up his course in custom boat/yacht, and he makes his own income... He also drives a car and goes to the clubs when we go. (he pulls more girls than I ever seen any of my guy friends do). He charming, understanding, great sense of humor, and easy to love. All my family and friends says he cool.. so I really don't know how anyone can "pretend to care" even if he's hearing impaired.

When you get to know him or anyone with a "disability" you'd realize they're JUST like or even better than you or me. It's a great feeling when you can see someone not for what they look like or what's "wrong" with them... But the love, compassion, understanding, this great way of thinking and understanding life and the best - not letting anyone or anything stop them from being and doing the best they can.. What a awesome way to live life!!! - moral of the story, your only disabled if you limit yourself! So don't limit - reach for the stars and be/do the best you can.

(tell you a little secret - last month, for the first time in my life, I heard my baby brother call me by my name, it was the best sound I've ever heard!)

 

[xAtheistx]

That's why I said we've been blessed to have him in our life, not yours. (thank God, cause my poor brother would of lived in hell because of you) Why would you want to pretend to be kind? Be genuine... it's easier.

I was by no means insulting you, your family, or your brother.

I simply stated I'm glad I'm not in your shoes, because I'm not a caring, kind, compassionate person.

so I really don't know how anyone can "pretend to care" even if he's hearing impaired.

Come again? I would hate to have to pretend they were equal, not to "pretend to care" about them. To treat them as if there's not something wrong, that's what I'd have a hard time doing (and most people want that... normalcy).

When you get to know him or anyone with a "disability" you'd realize they're JUST like or even better than you or me

Clearly you didn't read my posts beyond what I said about hating to have a disabled sibling... one of my closest friends is disabled. I don't treat her as inferior... I just pity her. Constantly.

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

I was by no means insulting you, your family, or your brother.

I simply stated I'm glad I'm not in your shoes, because I'm not a caring, kind, compassionate person.



Come again? I would hate to have to pretend they were equal, not to "pretend to care" about them. To treat them as if there's not something wrong, that's what I'd have a hard time doing (and most people want that... normalcy).



Clearly you didn't read my posts beyond what I said about hating to have a disabled sibling... one of my closest friends is disabled. I don't treat her as inferior... I just pity her. Constantly.

Please don't think I was being rude to you, I was just expressing my concerns about the way you view people who are disabled. And I did read your other post, just didn't have time to respond back. Are you doing anything great by piting her? She's still alive, trust me, she doesn't need this... she wants to loved, cared for and to be treated like you'd like too. Don't make her situation tuffer than it is.. and knowing your a friend to her, I know you care.. I understand you can not see her suffering or in pain. trust me, I know... if she's in a situation where she's not going to get better - make the rest of her life joyfull. Show her she's special. Express to her how much she's a part of your life. Everyone wants to be wanted and loved.

I would of been the same way like you, pitting the disabled and all, thinking they're not equal. But that's not fair to her or them... why make a situation (which can not be fixed - if that's the case) streeful or turturous. It's not fare. Your a better person that this. Love is stronger than hate.

 

[sanaa]

like someone said its not disabled but differently abled

 

[Saraswati-Devi]

like someone said its not disabled but differently abled

EXACTLY!

 

[sonofgodjose]

I know we're suppose to be playing a game, but my little brother is deaf and we had to deal with this issue in real life. It was very hard to come up with the best answer to explain to him he's JUST like the rest of us, even better...

Well, the only answer we came up with is "God has blessed us with you... you've taught us how to love unconditionally, we must respect differences. You've taught us that love comes in any form.. you've opened our eyes and heart, Thank You for being part of our family."

That is an excellent answer. We can all learn something from you.

 

[xAtheistx]

like someone said its not disabled but differently abled

Different name, same ****.

Are you doing anything great by piting her?

Are you doing anything great AT ALL?
Pity isn't a controlled emotion. I can't just stop piting her, even if she didn't want it. Pity is defined as " Sympathy and sorrow aroused by the misfortune or suffering of another." I'm not going to be any less sad until she suffers less.

She's still alive, trust me, she doesn't need this...

No **** she don't need this. But this is not my pity; it's her disease. It ****ing sucks, and it's the worst part of my life. Because she's really special to me, and nothing would make me happier than to be rid of it; to have her back to normal again. But that'll never happen: it'll get worse and worse and it will eventually kill her.

she wants to loved, cared for and to be treated like you'd like too. ... I understand you can not see her suffering or in pain. trust me, I know... if she's in a situation where she's not going to get better - make the rest of her life joyfull. Show her she's special. Express to her how much she's a part of your life. Everyone wants to be wanted and loved.

Don't pretend you know her at all. Why do we seem to love the disabled more than others? Because we ****ing pity them. Because they're in a worse spot. I know that if I fell down my stairs and somehow became paralyzed from the neck down, people would pity me. I would be disturbed if nobody pitied me-- but I would without doubt become a ****ing cripple, not "differently abled."

I would of been the same way like you, pitting the disabled and all, thinking they're not equal. But that's not fair to her or them... why make a situation (which can not be fixed - if that's the case) streeful or turturous. It's not fare.

I love how you pretend to understand all about me because I tell you I pity my disabled friend.

I don't pity the disabled. Just my friend. In fact, I don't even like your brother. I can't pity somebody I don't like. And I can't like somebody I haven't talked to... yes, that includes political figures and celebrities. I don't work that way--I can't judge somebody by what you tell me about them.

Your a better person that this. Love is stronger than hate.

I'm as good a person as I say I am. I'm certainly not a worse person for pitying somebody; pity is a sign of affection, not hate.

Note to mods: This abides by all the rules (if it doesn't, PM me and I'll change it, or change it yourself)... I would like to carry out this conversation; it's not flaming if it's constructive. (Which it is) I say this only because I've seen numerous threads closed for reasons I have yet to understand.

 

[Proud Hindu]

I would like to carry out this conversation; it's not flaming if it's constructive. (Which it is) I say this only because I've seen numerous threads closed for reasons I have yet to understand.

Lol, u wonder why? Maybe cuz you're cursing every other word, on an online message board..

Chill out man.. no one thinks ur hard.