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What exactly is a Conservative Christian? I thought I knew. Can someone provide a definition? The more detailed, the better.
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To me, it's the adherence to a traditional interpretation of Scriptures. No deviation to "keep up" with or pander to a secular world.
In the UK there's no cross-over between politics and faith... and there's no real desire for there to be. One belongs to Caesar, the other to God. But it seems like in America the two are inextricably linked and many feel that unless you're politically conservative, you can't be theologically so... I think that's deeply erroneous, but it's all down to how we're raised, and what we're used to, really.
Politics and faith don't necessarily go hand in hand. You can believe every word of the Bible but not feel the need to force non-Christians into adhering to it, also, and you're still a conservative Christian, imo.
To me, it's the adherence to a traditional interpretation of Scriptures. No deviation to "keep up" with or pander to a secular world.
In the UK there's no cross-over between politics and faith... and there's no real desire for there to be. One belongs to Caesar, the other to God. But it seems like in America the two are inextricably linked and many feel that unless you're politically conservative, you can't be theologically so... I think that's deeply erroneous, but it's all down to how we're raised, and what we're used to, really.
Politics and faith don't necessarily go hand in hand. You can believe every word of the Bible but not feel the need to force non-Christians into adhering to it, also, and you're still a conservative Christian, imo.
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The label is a slippery one~every conservative is someone else's liberal, and vice-versy. For the sake of this forum the rules are listed somewhere (I don't even know where ). Typically if you are pro-life and pro-traditional marriage and a Nicene Christian then ya fit in...
). Typically if you are pro-life and pro-traditional marriage and a Nicene Christian then ya fit in...
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to be theologicaly consercative is not much, I think most christians would fit into that.
do you believe the Bible is the word of God? Jesus will come agian? all that good stuff?
oh and welcome to the CC forum, i think i have seen you in the singles forum beforem right?
do you believe the Bible is the word of God? Jesus will come agian? all that good stuff?
oh and welcome to the CC forum, i think i have seen you in the singles forum beforem right?
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by CF criteria
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=6899878
have to agree with GM - in the US, for whatever reason, conservative theology seems to be linked with conservative politics. While I happen to be of both persuasions I wish the automatic assumption that they are one and the same weren't there. I do know quite a few folks who are conservative theologically and more liberal leaning when it comes to politics. Many would say - and I wouldn't disagree - Jesus the Christ is the perfect example when it comes to a social conscience and dealing with injustices.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=6899878
have to agree with GM - in the US, for whatever reason, conservative theology seems to be linked with conservative politics. While I happen to be of both persuasions I wish the automatic assumption that they are one and the same weren't there. I do know quite a few folks who are conservative theologically and more liberal leaning when it comes to politics. Many would say - and I wouldn't disagree - Jesus the Christ is the perfect example when it comes to a social conscience and dealing with injustices.
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Then there are the oddballs like me that is theologically conservative and politically abstinent
and that's ok too (I suppose . . . . . )
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there'll never be too many oddballs like me...
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How can someone be a "conservative" Christian and not be pro-life and against gay marriage? For that matter all homosexual activity?
I'm appalled by the platform Democrats stand on. I know there are millions of Christians who vote Democrat but can't understand how they do so if they know what scripture clearly teaches regarding these things.
Is it possible for believers to turn a blind eye to Gods teachings about right and wrong because it clashes with modern PC views?
Apparently so.
There must be a mental and emotional seperation between politics and the teaching of the bible that makes their Christian vote, (Democrat) OK in their mind?
My mother is a devout Christain and votes Democrat because the party promises more Social Security benefits and entitlement programs.
To each their own. Salvations tent is a big tent. Liberal and conservative alike.
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I am theologically conservative in that I take the entire Bible as the infallible Word of God and that as a Christian I should try to apply it to my daily living as best I can. Politically is a different story because I just don't feel the need to mix politics with Christianity. I personally think no party is lily-white when it comes to morals, yet Democrats and Republicans both have ideas that I like. Combining all of these ideas would make me more of an Independent or moderate. In fact, there are a lot of things I don't understand about politics, period. I only know that all politicians deserve prayer, regardless of party.
But that's just my personal thoughts.
But that's just my personal thoughts.
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WannaWitness
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Here's an article that might answer your question. This writer is a Christian, but also points out how he feels he is convicted Biblically to vote Democrat. It's a very profound and deep article. I don't agree with everything in it, but I can understand his basic idea of what he's getting at.
How could a Christian vote Democrat
If anything, it's something that makes for interesting reading.
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I think that the only think I am politically liberal on is certain welfare programs not because I am on them but because I've seen people have horrible things happen and have no means for food.
I don't think that every person who applies should be entitled.
I don't think everybody who is on it should still be on it.
I think there needs to be a time limit and people who apply do need to have some goals to focus on it.
But that will never happen........
Too many people get assistance and use it to live on for the rest of their lives. I've personally known people who sold their foodstamps to get drugs. A family member (I am not close to but I won't say who he is) is currently going through the application process. He's not a drug user but he's got a different habit and he will use the monthly checks they send him for that. He's applying for food stamps which that's BEYOND me he has two households providing food for him. He doesn't even pay his child support because he quit his job on his own terms. He had a darn good job too and in this economy that's a dumb descision. THESE are the types I don't want to see on welfare.
The types I don't mind are the ones who need emergency assistance or temporary assistance during a bad spell not ones who want to sit on it forever and ever just because they don't want any responsibilites (As above family member is only applying for it on that condition. He has 4 children by 3 different women but can't pay for them but thinks he has the right to eat and get medical care. Sorry being so judgmental-----it is just aggrevating)
I don't think that every person who applies should be entitled.
I don't think everybody who is on it should still be on it.
I think there needs to be a time limit and people who apply do need to have some goals to focus on it.
But that will never happen........
Too many people get assistance and use it to live on for the rest of their lives. I've personally known people who sold their foodstamps to get drugs. A family member (I am not close to but I won't say who he is) is currently going through the application process. He's not a drug user but he's got a different habit and he will use the monthly checks they send him for that. He's applying for food stamps which that's BEYOND me he has two households providing food for him. He doesn't even pay his child support because he quit his job on his own terms. He had a darn good job too and in this economy that's a dumb descision. THESE are the types I don't want to see on welfare.
The types I don't mind are the ones who need emergency assistance or temporary assistance during a bad spell not ones who want to sit on it forever and ever just because they don't want any responsibilites (As above family member is only applying for it on that condition. He has 4 children by 3 different women but can't pay for them but thinks he has the right to eat and get medical care. Sorry being so judgmental-----it is just aggrevating)
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I think I know where you're coming from. Sure there are abusers of welfare and government assistance but anyone who's ever been broke, down & out with nowhere to turn for their next meal, through circumstances beyond their control, (health issues for one), are in dire need and deserving of this assistance.
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coming from conservative Republicans, this says a lot but you know what, I feel much of what you guys feel here. it's a hard issue for me to digest and I share most of your sentiments.
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I do not understand politics but I agree with this. Being a Christian does not mean I give mental assent to God's Word, but I read and by the power and help of the Holy Spirit obey by applying it in my life.
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I've been a CC member since the beginning, and I fit the SoF definition of a conservative, but only just.
I'm conservative on basic theology, even fundamentalist on some of it (like the "five fundamentals"), but when you move beyond the "five fundamentals" and the creeds (Apostles', Nicene, etc.) my theology becomes much more moderate and emergent. Socially I'm pretty moderate, about as centrist as you could get. And politically I'm hardcore libertarian and a Libertarian Party member.
I'm conservative on basic theology, even fundamentalist on some of it (like the "five fundamentals"), but when you move beyond the "five fundamentals" and the creeds (Apostles', Nicene, etc.) my theology becomes much more moderate and emergent. Socially I'm pretty moderate, about as centrist as you could get. And politically I'm hardcore libertarian and a Libertarian Party member.
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In my mind, it isn't thinking that one party is "better" than the other morally, or that we want to force non-Christians to adhere to our beliefs, but that I want to vote for whichever party is closest to the stand I take on issues to create a climate I want to live in. Everyone does the same, otherwise there would be no need for politics or elections. I get just as tired of the liberal voters forcing their climate on me as I'm sure they do with me.
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There are a few states who have not bought into the US welfare system and created systems of their own that do limit how long one can be on welfare. They require job training and offer the training classes (as well as babysitting), and at the end, you are given a job if you cannot find one yourself, and you are off the welfare rolls at that point. If problems occur, you can go back on and retrain, but it is not a place to sit and collect for the rest of your life.
I wish all states would consider creating programs like that (it would certainly create jobs), but I guess it is easier to buy into the US welfare system.
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