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Ok, so tonight I decided to actually do something with my single's group at church. Mainly because they were going to the movies and I had really wanted to do that for a couple of days. So I go and practically everyone ignores me. They all knew each other and I know like one or two people and it was just weird. None of the girls talked to me, a few of the guys did but it was like they were trying too hard to be nice to me. I tried to talk to them, but it was just not working. I just felt unwelcome and like I never want to do anything with that group again. I don't feel mad, I just feel weird. And my reason for going was to meet people , guys and girls for friendships, not even considering a dating relationship, but I must say I really really don't want to date any of the guys there. They were all like way older than me and I dunno I wasn't even attracted to them for friendship reasons. This whole experience made me REALLY MISS this guy that I had been dating. I missed his friendship and his kindness and just talking with him and goofing off with him. I missed seeing a movie with him. I missed just being near him. So what in the world does this all mean????? I can't stop thinking about the experience and I feel embaressed. Does it mean something is wrong with me and I'm so boring that people sense it and avoid me in advance???? I just feel stupid for going and now I just want this guy I miss back in my life because he was and is a great friend and a Godly man.
Bleh, anyways excuse my ramblings, I guess i just needed to get it off of my mind and chest. :sigh:
Like I said this is just complaining for no particular reason so thanks for bearing with me :p
 

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mina said:
Ok, so tonight I decided to actually do something with my single's group at church. Mainly because they were going to the movies and I had really wanted to do that for a couple of days. So I go and practically everyone ignores me. They all knew each other and I know like one or two people and it was just weird. None of the girls talked to me, a few of the guys did but it was like they were trying too hard to be nice to me. I tried to talk to them, but it was just not working. I just felt unwelcome and like I never want to do anything with that group again. I don't feel mad, I just feel weird. And my reason for going was to meet people , guys and girls for friendships, not even considering a dating relationship, but I must say I really really don't want to date any of the guys there. They were all like way older than me and I dunno I wasn't even attracted to them for friendship reasons. This whole experience made me REALLY MISS this guy that I had been dating. I missed his friendship and his kindness and just talking with him and goofing off with him. I missed seeing a movie with him. I missed just being near him. So what in the world does this all mean????? I can't stop thinking about the experience and I feel embaressed. Does it mean something is wrong with me and I'm so boring that people sense it and avoid me in advance???? I just feel stupid for going and now I just want this guy I miss back in my life because he was and is a great friend and a Godly man.
Bleh, anyways excuse my ramblings, I guess i just needed to get it off of my mind and chest. :sigh:
Like I said this is just complaining for no particular reason so thanks for bearing with me :p

Give the people another chance. Sometimes people unconciously form cliches and don't take the time to be sensitive to new people. If you prepare your attitude in advance and decide that you want to be positive and make the experience a postive one and that you want to shine God's light to those around you, then that is what will happen. Did you pray for that before you went?

Anyways, ranting is totally cool. :hug: I'm not trying to pick on you so don't take it as that. And about missing your ex when you feel unable to connect to people in social situations, I know Exactly how you feel. It sucks. But it's a part of reality. God is growing your character. He knows what he's doing.

I've been in many awkward social situations before. I used to have poor social skills and be extremely shy because of the how and where I was raised. So I know what it is like to be in situations where you feel totally ignored like no one wants anything to do with you. But that is in the past, because God has changed me into who I am now and put amazing people into my life. Though sometimes that fear still lurks that I will once again be the odd one out of the crowd, looking in but not fitting in. But that's just satan trying to ruin my peace of mind. For my reality is nothing like my past when it comes to friendships and the like. I have many wonderful amazing people in my life and once upon a time I had almost none. So it can and will change. Pray about it and trust God to come through for you.

You know you can always pm me anytime u wanna talk :hug:
 
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my first thought on this is the "if you get knocked off your horse you have to get right back on" perhaps, hard as it might be, you need to do something with these guys again, it's not uncommon to feel uncomfortable in unfamilar situations and around new people, but sometimes we need to push ourselves to do the things that are difficult - in the long run, you might find you can find some good friends. Perhaps these people even though it was the other way around.....and that YOU were the one being unfriendly? it's hard, I know from personal experience, but maybe it's worth the effort to try again?
 
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This has happened soooooo many times before with different groups of people. It's the norm reaction to me it seems. I just feel foolish for expecting something different. I went into last night with an extremely positive attitude. Yes I was polite and friendly, Yes I prayed before I went, Yes I tried. And I'm tired of trying. I feel like a reject. I'm always the odd one out. It's not like i'm just making up what happened to me. It's like I have a people disease or something.
 
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if you're anything like i used to be, you may be dealing with a 'warped' perception of how people really react to you, it took me a lot of time and discipline to get past it, but once i realised I had the problem, it helped to learn to deal with it in a way that wasn't my "instinct" reaction
 
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Well I saw them ignore me and give each other looks after I said something, so what am I supposed to think? I saw them almost try too hard to be nice to me. It's almost like they were just putting up with me. It's happened before. I'm not imagining things. I'm sorry if you think i'm lying or exaggerating, but I'm not. This makes me weary.
 
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I'm sorry you thought I was saying those things, i wasn't, but your response did kind of back up what I just said.

you PERCIEVED that I was being negative towards you, that I didn't think you were being honest etc - but I never did think that way at all

Like i said, I've struggled with this issue myself, and maybe our situations aren't exactly the same, but maybe they DO have similarities.

While you say people were "giving eachother looks" perhaps they weren't thinking of you in the slightest when they were looking however they were....or perhaps they WERE thinking about you, but in an innocent way, perhaps they were wondering about you - just out of interest, rather than in a negative way like you percieved the situation.

You say they were trying to be nice - well, what's wrong with that? Isn't that what you're acutally looking for, maybe they were trying hard to be nice, but maybe that's because they wanted to be nice, not because they didn't want to - why WOULD they try to be nice if they didn't want to be? As a general rule, I find that if someone doesn't want to be nice, they simply won't be!

I do know how down it can make you feel when you feel like people are whispering about you and stuff... once in a while i would find that one of the people i went to youth group with would organise something and not invite me and i would immediately start thinking about how everybody disliked me and they didn't want to spend time with me. But you know what? That wasn't really the case at all (well, maybe it was once in a while who knows LOL - i wasn't exactly the cheerful person i am today) - but the simple fact was, I didn't have to be a part of everything every one of my friends did any more than all my friends had to be a part of every single thing I did - it's ok for people to not want to do stuff with the same people all the time, but i had percieved it as them indicating they didn't want me around - which turned out not to be the case - on MANY occassions I went down this path of thinking, and it sunk me deeper and deeper into self distruction (in a mental sense).

I remember one time at a youth group event someone was supposed to pick me up from my house, but he never showed up and the longer I waited the worse state I got myself in thinking about how much everyone must hate me and how aweful it was that this guy deliberately avoided giving me my ride. I even got to thinking that he had conspired with other people to not pick me up so they didn't all have to put up with me being around. Eventually, I confronted the situation and it was a pure and simple case of the fact that the poor guy just forgot. but of course, at the time, i figured it was a lie (which is odd, cause i knew he wasn't ever a dishonest person - but in this case, "because he hated me" he must have been lying) but of course, he wasn't lying - it was an honest mistake....and i confess to having made similar honest mistakes myself - but I couldn't see it that way.....my mind had already convinced me otherwise.

There were other situations when I would get really upset with "friends" who did something or said something or thought something bad about me - thing is, they didn't do anything - but I was so insecure that without having any idea I was even doing it, i would CREATE a problem with my friends, i would get angry at them for being bad to me (even though they hadn't) and I would then get really upset, and start getting depressing thoughts about how everybody hated me and i must be some kind of freak that nobody really wanted to be around....that anyone who did spend time with me was only doing so because they felt sorry for me or whatever and that nobody really liked me at all.

Then....one day, God revealed to me what was going on. Suddenly - and it really was a sudden revelation - I discovered that I was subconsciously trying to protect myself from being hurt by someone I cared about. It sounds bizzare, but i created these situations where i believed someone was being nasty to me so that I had control over the situation - that way nobody could hurt me without my permission so to speak. By hurting myself (and essentially blaming it on someone else), I was stopping other people from doing anything that might hurt me, because I was already hurting you see. It's hard to explain - but as I said, it was my subconscious way of protecting myself - and i wonder if you may be suffering from the same problem (though I expect if someone had told me this before God revealed it that I never would have beleived them)

Eventually, slowly, I learned to change my thought behaviour, and whenever i heard myself saying "they don't like me" i would tell myself (and I found that saying it out loud really helped - though not while anyone was around!) that I knew that wasn't true, I knew people didn't hate me and when people asked how I was doing or whatever, that people really were interested. sometimes all i would say to myself is "you know that's not true" - whenever I started thinking that way.

It took a long time and even today on the odd occassion I'll need to tell myself that, but I'm so much happier now, so much better off for learning to heal myself of this problem where my perception of things was twisted

I can only pray as I write this long message that God will reveal to you that you may have some kind of problem like this (if indeed you do, maybe I'm wrong) and that you will be freed from the bondage as I have been.

*hugs* (and that is sincere)

I'll try and remember to pray for you whenever I see a message from you - I can't promise i will pray every day or anything because I find I have difficulty keeping promises like that because I can be undisciplined when it comes to prayer - but I will make an effort because I know you deserve it
 
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I don't see where what I said backed up anything you said. You are trying to fit my situation into your situation. I don't think you said these things to be negative at all, so you misunderstood me. I do think you were trying to understand what I said with your experiences. All I know is what went on and I know I tried to be friendly and open. I also know how I saw them reacting. I am not delusional, i'm not making it up, it's not all in my head. It really actually happened. I know I did try and I do not feel guilty about my actions at all. I just feel embaressed. I do however feel like there is something wrong with me. I'm sure you think that i'm in denial or something, but I've prayed a lot about this in my life and I've even wondered the same thing about myself as you have. I've carefully examined if I'm thinking subconiously that these things are going on. I've asked many times that God reveal that to me if I was doing that. But what He has revealed to me is that these things are not in my thought processes and in myhead. So I'm sorry I don't fit what you want me to. Sorry. And if you think i'm trying to be smart or snarky towards you in anyway I'm sorry about that too, b/c i'm not. This is what i get for complaining i guess.
 
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If you think you have a people disease, try taking a course like "how to win friends and influence people" and maybe that will help... give you new approaches and maybe show you if you're doing anything wrong.

But I do agree with Talie that a lot of it is probably simply perceptive. I have been there too. You said that they were ignoring you but when they *didn't* ignore you, you thought they were being insincere. How can they win? You have to keep trying... as someone else said above, it often just takes time.
 
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sigh, when someone says hi to you through gritted teeth and then talks to you like you are a child that has a problem understanding then that's not insincere? And the only talking they did to me was like 2 people and it was like 2 sentences each. I tryed to let them win. I asked questions of people and acted interested. My questions were either ignored or cut off abruptly. I don't even know why i'm trying to explain this. It's just making me feel more stupid and embaressed.
 
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I know how you feel to an extent. For awhile I was visiting this college group at one of the local churches. It was great at first because everyone seemed so friendly. Then, I came a few more times and people stopped coming to talk to me and when I would try to engage them in conversation I basically got ignored. So, I kept going anyway and I started going to a sunday school class, which was being lead by a handsome missionary that was around my age (the rest of the class was 18-19 and I was 21). I didn't know he was leading the class before I joined and I didn't take the class just to meet guys. I actually was interested in bible study that focuses on missions, because that is what I want to do. Well, as I got into the class and answered questions and discussed things before class with the class leader, the females in the class gave me some not so nice looks and definitely would not talk to me after that. When I gave this girl a compliment on her outfit she didnt say thank you she just shrugged it off and gave me an ugly look.

Sometimes you will become part of groups like that and feel left out and feel just plain "weird"...I know it's hard for me to fit in and I really want to become part of a college/career group, but I just have to keep looking and keep trying. Maybe you could try again and just keep talking with them and finding out what interests you might have in common. Maybe you could suggest starting some type of ministry. Or you could invite them all to your place for dinner or something.

Otherwise, you could begin visiting other churches to see where God leads you. I hope things work out. I know it's not easy. Hang in there!
 
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Hi.. I think I can understand how you feel, I had experience in the past that wasn't really nice either. It feels weird to be with new people, especially I didn't grow up in the United States, I had to adjust to the culture around here and I didn't click right away with churches here. There were culture and language barriers and so on. Plus my introvert personality didn't really help me either.

I used to go to this church to the young adult group. I could not connect with them. I said hi to people and they are just talking sweet to me and didn't seem sincerely interested on me. I felt unwelcomed and very sad because I was expecting people to understand me, to welcome me, etc. Especially those times were the time when I had a trouble and sinful relationship and just went through a very devastating breakup. I needed a support group really bad that time!

But God gave me the strength to keep on trying and to persevere. I need a group of people who can encourage me in my walk as a believer. I prayed days and nights for a church where I can settle and find a fellowship. After almost a year, God didn't forget me and led me to the local church I am now. Couldn't be happier, I found a great community.

I still remember the prayer I said the first time I walked into Covenant Life Church door to their Singles Meeting (Young Adult Ministry - Corporate Meeting).. that God would let me just enjoy the time of worship and fellowship with Him alone because I knew no one there. I was a little scared that I would felt unwelcomed again. But God had a plan, he was the one who led me there just from the wonder of the internet and Josh Harris' books. To my amazement, He did gave me friends right away aside from great message that night and I stayed ever since. Officially became a member last month and I just love my church so much.

I would encourage you to not stop trying and not stop praying.. until God answer your prayer. Also remember that many times people can be so insensitive toward newcomers at church and make them feel unwelcomed. Sometimes it takes a while to get comfortable with each other. Not everyone has great social skills and not everyone is courageous enough to reach out to new poeple. Now that I knew a bit better, I will always try to reach out to new people who come to my group because I knew how it feels to be a newcomer :) I am sorry that you had to experience this. I totally know how you feel because I've been there myself. But hang in there... keep looking. There is much grace and hope to you from God, my friend! God bless! ::hugs::
 
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Mina,

I feel like, now that I have to be very careful of anything I might say or ask here, but please understand that we really want to help you.

I think if you were able to be more specific in regards to what things were actually said and maybe the tone used, it might be useful to us?

I don't know...like some of the others, I often feel the same way in new group settings, sometimes even in familiar groups, and MOST of the time I find that my interpretation was wrong. When I am right, it's usually fine, because those would be people who wouldn't make very good friends anyway. I think my introversion drives the way I think people perceive me more than I would like.

Having been around here for a while now, you have never seemed to me like a person who is uninteresting, unintelligent, unsociable, weird or any other negative word I could think of. So, for me, it's difficult to imagine you having so much difficulty.

Finally, I'd like to invite you again to the dateless waif club(check one of the other threads, or PM me for how to find it)...we won't make you uncomfortable (I don't think).
 
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brettnolan said:
Having been around here for a while now, you have never seemed to me like a person who is uninteresting, unintelligent, unsociable, weird or any other negative word I could think of. So, for me, it's difficult to imagine you having so much difficulty.

Finally, I'd like to invite you again to the dateless waif club(check one of the other threads, or PM me for how to find it)...we won't make you uncomfortable (I don't think).
I agree- I've always seen you as someone that had something good to say when she posts and I usually regard you as a very intelligent poster. Sometimes our feelings really are a matter of perception. I struggle with this sometimes as well.

I'd also like to extend an invitation to join the DWC. We're good people looking for other good people! :wave:
 
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I would feel uncomfortable in a big singles group, too, even though it may be at church, especially where there are established cliques and different and clashing personality-types. I would rather meet someone one-on-one who has common interests, and then perhaps gradually branch out and go out with others.

When I go to church, I think of it as a place to worship and study, not to socialize, although socializing might be a by-product of such worship and studying. Church should never be a place that makes you feel bad.

Instead of going to a singles group that is so cliquish, perhaps you could sign up for a group tour to some place you always wanted to go where everyone has common interests and everyone will be new to each other and there will be no cliques, so the playing field will be fair and even. You may meet some lifelong friends on such a trip.
 
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