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Concerned about Benny Hinn

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tattedsaint said:
yea i used to be against benny hinn myself. now, to put it bluntly, i just don't care anymore. he is a brother in the Lord, and I sure hope he is being honest with his miracles.
Saint,

The difficulty here is whether or not Benny Hinn IS a "brother in the Lord". Now, I know people have already quoted verses where the Bible tells us not to judge, however, the Bible does tell us also to discern, and to "test the spirits", and it seems to me that an awful lot of people have tested the Benny Hinn spirit and found it wanting! It's also worth noting that the very same passage that contains "do not judge' also contains "beware of false prophets" (Matthew 7). However, I'd just like to provide a few black-and-white scriptural reasons why Benny Hinn should be neither listened to, nor accepted by the Christian church.

1. Prophecy.

In 1989, Benny Hinn made a series of prophecies to his congregation at the Orlando Christian Center in Florida, including the following:

* "God will destroy the homosexual community of America... He will destroy it with fire... in the mid 90's - about '94 or 95, no later than that"

* "The Spirit of God tells me - an earthquake will hit the east coast of America and destroy much in the 90's"

* "The Spirit tells me - Fidel Castro will die in the 90's - the Holy Spirit just said to me, it'll be worth than any death you can imagine"

April 2nd, 2000

* Hinn Prophecied that Jesus would appear at his crusade, on stage, in Nairobi Kenya. Needless to say, He didn't. In fact, four people died at this crusade, crushed by the crowds. None of them were resurrected.

November 7, 2001

* Hinn prophecies that "this may very well be the last" TBN Tel-a-thon, as the Second Coming was about to occur. Needless to say, this didn't happen either.

Dec 29, 2003

* Hinn Prophecies that "Three and a half months from now something is going to happen in this world: headline news, you'll know it. I will not tell you what I see. You'll just know it, and something mighty will follow in the Spirit. God, the Holy Ghost, is saying to His church - Watch Israel. Watch my people Israel."
Nothing happened on April 15th. Oops.


Now, the Bible says a few things about false prophets.

1. The Spirit (not Benny Hinn's "Spirit", evidently, as this one isn't lying) "expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons (see the previous posts about Word of Faith and Christ's torment in hell), speaking lies in hypocrisy" - 1 Timothy 4:1-2

False prophets will come, the Bible tells us. For some reason, people have great difficulty letting go of Benny Hinn, despite the false prophecies, despite his character (which is NOT in accordance with the Holy Spirit!) and despite the fact that the Bible tells us very, very clearly what should be done with false teachers.

2. "There will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies... many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed." (2 Peter 2:1-2)

"It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the Holy commandment delivered to them." (2 Peter 2:21)

Do people not see this? Don't we realise that the church is Blasphemed because of Benny Hinn? He has made Christ's church a laughing stock! While Christians may excuse the false prophecies and false claims of healing, non-Christians see straight through this man and recognise him for what he is - a snake! The Bible says "by their fruits you will know them", yet how can we know them if we do not discern, do not test their works according to God's Word? We can't!

What does the Bible say we should do with false prophets?

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 has the answer.

"But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart 'How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?' - When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the THING DOES NOT HAPPEN OR COME TO PASS, THAT IS THE THING WHICH THE LORD HAS NOT SPOKEN; THE PROPHET HAS SPOKEN IT PRESUMPTUOUSLY; YOU SHALL NOT BE AFRAID OF HIM."

The answer is clear.
Obviously, we are no longer under Israel's judicial system - and I for one am not a Jew! However, the principle applies, more so today than ever. We should have nothing to do with Benny Hinn, nothing to do with this false prophet. He dares to presume to speak falsehood in the name of my God, and non-believers blaspheme because of him.

This is no man of God.


 
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Awen, as the bible says we can tell a true prophet of God as to weather his prophesies come true or not... Very nice point. For some reason- he kind of puts me in mind of someone in the unholy trinity. Odd but true. I thank God anyways that whatever happens is under His domain!

In Christs Love,
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I used to be a Benny Hinn freak. ha ha. I went to his crusades, sent him money, bought his teaching tools and even had pictures of him in my house. I heard him say some things that really blew my mind. He said,
(1) "Don't tell me you have Jesus. You ARE everything he was, everything he is and ever shall be!" Benny Hinn degrades the Lord Jesus Christ down to our sinful level or elevates us to deity.

(2) "Let me say something else to you, and I really don't care if you like this or not! You have attacked me, your children will pay for it"

which is totally against christianity: saying we're gods and cursing people's children.

You can check it out if you want:
If you want to hear him say it click here and scroll up to the last two things above:

http://www.bible.ca/tongues-audio-v...on.htm#copeland

Needless to say I am dropping Benny all together. I think his heart is in the right place but he is being decieved by the devil. BUT God can use anyone to uplift, help, or save someone. I would just tell her to be careful. I wouldn't worry about her just going to a crusade though because all they do is worship God and sing and people get healed. If you have any questions, pm me. I usually only visit once per thread.
 
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"Let me say something else to you, and I really don't care if you like this or not! You have attacked me, your children will pay for it"
This form of punishment was done away with later in the New Testament anyways. More then anything to me it sounds like a curse. The magnified law says that each individual will answer for their own sins, children will pary for their sins and parents for their own.

In Christs Love,
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IloveJesusMyFather3:16 said:
I used to be a Benny Hinn freak. ha ha. I went to his crusades, sent him money, bought his teaching tools and even had pictures of him in my house. I heard him say some things that really blew my mind. He said,
(1) "Don't tell me you have Jesus. You ARE everything he was, everything he is and ever shall be!" Benny Hinn degrades the Lord Jesus Christ down to our sinful level or elevates us to deity.

(2) "Let me say something else to you, and I really don't care if you like this or not! You have attacked me, your children will pay for it"

which is totally against christianity: saying we're gods and cursing people's children.

You can check it out if you want:
If you want to hear him say it click here and scroll up to the last two things above:

http://www.bible.ca/tongues-audio-v...on.htm#copeland

Needless to say I am dropping Benny all together. I think his heart is in the right place but he is being decieved by the devil. BUT God can use anyone to uplift, help, or save someone. I would just tell her to be careful. I wouldn't worry about her just going to a crusade though because all they do is worship God and sing and people get healed. If you have any questions, pm me. I usually only visit once per thread.
That's quite an amazing site ILJ. You were right to get right away from Benny Hinn and his nonsense too. It is a great concern of mine to see how many people are being fooled by charlatans and snake oil people who want the mighty dollar.
 
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jellybrain said:
or does he.....?:scratch:

as someone said earlier, why doesnt he use his "gift" to heal sick children?

for example, why not heal those children in africa who were passed the aids virus by parents through no fault of their own? or does Benny Hinn go where the money beckons?

This is the point many of us are trying to make!

I'd rather give money to a genuine charity (that can help children like these) than give money to Benny Hinn!
thats a nice point.



im not sure what to think about this guy, but rather than judge him, i wont involve myself on him, but rather just pray that what he is doing is real..
 
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Right on track!!!!
raphe said:
I try and believe the best things about such as Benny Hinn, as the Bible tells us to give the benefit of the doubt, but I also consider "if the shoe fits" when reading the scriptures. Notice verse three when Peter warns of false prophets and their characteristics in 2Peter chapter two. Appealing to people's greed for money is definately a twist on scripture - givng only to get. Can it be bad to check for bad prophets when the Bible tells us to do just that?

1Jo 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world.

2Peter 2:1 (NLT) But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach their destructive heresies about God and even turn against their Master who bought them. Theirs will be a swift and terrible end.
2 Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of them, Christ and his true way will be slandered.
3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their

3 (NRSV) And in their greed they will exploit you with deceptive words. Their condemnation, pronounced against them long ago, has not been idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

3 (BBE) And in their desire for profit they will come to you with words of deceit, like traders doing business in souls: whose punishment has been ready for a long time and their destruction is watching for them.

3 (KJV) And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Keep on flowing with discernment Brother!!!!
 
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Greatings Garnet 2727 I have made a request to Jehovah and his son King Jesus Christ in your behalf and also ask Jesus to
bless your sister.
I have sent Jesus Christs ministering spirits to your location
to minister to you.
I have also made a request to Jehovah to send his mighty
Angels to your location also to break Satans angels lose from
you so that you can see what you have not been able to see
all the times you were in church.The real world.By this i mean
the Spirit world where satan and his Angels reside and
Jehovah and his son Jesus and their Angels reside.
The natural world is control by the Spirit world,i can see into
the Spirit world
the Holy Spirit lets the 9 gifts work in my life i have gift number 7 of the nine gifts of the Spirit.
Just as you were worried about your sister there is a greater
problem to not no truth in your life
the Hell and heaven trip.
Before God created man and women kind he wrote a book,yes
God is a auther the book is called THE BOOK OF LIFE in this
book he put everyones name that he would ever create.
the ones that would not except his son King Jesus Christ he
removed their names from the [Book of life]They will be going
to hell with Satan and his Angels.
those that their names are still in the Book Of Life will be going to heaven.
I question if i should pray for you are not because if you dont except Jesus then you as with anyone else they would be setting in a lake of fire that does not go out forever.
then i seen you had a anger problem let me clue you in anger
is a spirit coming from satan.they ride on your anger and get
a foot hold in your life.
And because i love you as much as the rest of the Christians
here do along with your sister.If we look at what Jesus Christ
called Satan we can see what is controling our lives until we
get truth in our lives Satan is a ,lies,thief,killer,destroyer,of that which is good.
To futher explane why i can make a request to Jehovah and
King Jesus Christ is because i know them,i have seen two of
Gods Angels i made a request for one to be sent to where i
worked there were no Christians working there.I request for
Jehovah to send a mighty war Angel with a power level 2 are 3
times higher than the power level of Satans angels he had there.
God sent a 12 foot tall Angel Praise God forever more.
The reason we cant see into the spirit world is because of the
way our natural vision works
the spirit world is not hidden we just cant see it unless you
have the 9 Gifts of the spirit working.
Thats why people will never understand God are the things of
God without his Spirit.what is three inches above our eyes will
never connect to God ,but satan can and does control our minds and our mouth that is bible.
May the Lord God bless you and keep you in all your ways untill you see Truth coming to you not brought by man are by
Religion but by Gods Holy Spirit and i call it done in Jesus Holy
name
 
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:D Hey , i've thought about this a while and i figure that if God can use a donkey, he can use anybody thats willing. These people are trying their best to live for God, it seems to me. And we are all falling short, misguided and decieved at some point. None of us is perfect, and cant be fooled by you know who. Rosieace:crosseo:
 
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Garnet2727 said:
Hello all,


I've watched Benny Hinn on TV and have also done some research about him. It seems that many conservative Christians consider him a heretic. As for me, I think he's a snake oil salesman out to get money.


Any input?
Hey man

While I dont agree with everything Benny Hinn does and says my auntie was healed at a Benny Hinn meeting PTL:wave:

Bear in mind the 'conservative' believers of Jesus day (the pharisees) also saw him as a heretic.

God Bless
Lismore
 
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Agreed with Mrs_Debey, that we shouldn't judge anyone. But there is a difference
In judging and warning. God says , beware of the wolves dressed in sheeps clothing,
several times called the "religious" folks, vipers. Benny Hinn does seek god, but it
isn't the God of love and salvation but the god of money. If anyone is truly healed
at his meetings, it isn't cause they went to see Benny Hinn, but cause they had
faith that God could heal them, God saw their hearts and healed them, himself. It wasn't by the hand of Benny Hinn, but by the faith of a sincere heart that looks
for the healing! Let the heart seek God and you can't go wrong, if you seek to find
healing in a man, then shall you be decieved and discouraged.

God bless all

In Christ
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Want2bPure said:
Agreed with Mrs_Debey, that we shouldn't judge anyone. But there is a difference
In judging and warning. God says , beware of the wolves dressed in sheeps clothing,
several times called the "religious" folks, vipers. Benny Hinn does seek god, but it
isn't the God of love and salvation but the god of money. If anyone is truly healed
at his meetings, it isn't cause they went to see Benny Hinn, but cause they had
faith that God could heal them, God saw their hearts and healed them, himself. It wasn't by the hand of Benny Hinn, but by the faith of a sincere heart that looks
for the healing! Let the heart seek God and you can't go wrong, if you seek to find
healing in a man, then shall you be decieved and discouraged.

God bless all

In Christ
Want2BPure
This is sooooooooo..... true.Your answer is bold and correcting and at the same time,so loving and compassionate!!!:thumbsup: :clap: :amen:
 
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Benny Hinn is a fraud and a con man! In Mathew chapter 24 Jesus talks about the Benny Hinns of this world when he said to the apostles regarding the end times; "Take heed that no man deceives you,for in those days many shall come in my name saying that I am the christ,and shall deceive many!" The only thing Benny Hinn will cure you of is that lump in your wallet!
 
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Garnet2727 said:
Hello all,

I'm looking for some advice here. My sister, who is a Southern Baptist is going to a Benny Hinn revival (show?) in Atlanta in a few months. I'm VERY concerned about this. My sister is in a particularly needy state of mind. She lost her eldest son 4 years ago and still is grieving daily.

I've watched Benny Hinn on TV and have also done some research about him. It seems that many conservative Christians consider him a heretic. As for me, I think he's a snake oil salesman out to get money.

I'm not sure what to do about this. I see my sister getting easily sucked into his nonsense. I've tried telling her and sending her links from Christians sites, but her mind is set on going and she frankly doesn't want to hear it from an atheist.

Any input?
The devil can pose as an angel of light, has powers to perform miracles,
a wolf in sheeps clothing.:preach:
 
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