Communion in the hand

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

Communion In The Hand

From the site:

n 1969 Pope Paul VI, with serious misgivings, published Memoriale Domini and opened the fateful door to communion-in-the-hand. He stated that the traditional way of receiving on the tongue was preferable, and then spelled out the threat to Holy Communion with very specific warnings:

"A change in a matter of such moment, based on a most ancient and venerable tradition, does not merely affect discipline. It carries certain dangers with it which may arise from the new manner of administering Holy Communion: the danger of a loss of reverence for the august sacrament of the altar, of profanation, of adulterating the true doctrine."​

All of the pope’s misgivings have come true. The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Savior is frequently being treated with disdain and irreverence; communion-in-the-hand has opened the door to trivialization, sacrilege, abuse and indifference. The vast majority of Roman Catholics no longer kneel to receive Him, and a significant percentage of Catholics no longer recognize the Holy Eucharist as the Real Presence.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

I know many people might disagree, but I agree... I dont know why I've just always believed this is the case.

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

It's something that got so out of control and lasted so long that now people think that they have a right to receive on their hands.

That swine flu stupidity paved the way for Modernists to block reception on the tongue too! My diocese and many others disallowed it because they didn't want anyone to somehow catch swine flu and now fewer people than ever receive on their tongue!

 

[Nickieb03]

I receive it on the hand but because thats how i was taught..but i feel like the priest is healthy..giving a sign of peace though is another thing..

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

I don't like the Sign of Peace at all.

Want to meet your fellow parishioners? Go to a potluck dinner.

 

[Colin]

. The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Savior is frequently being treated with disdain and irreverence; communion-in-the-hand has opened the door to trivialization, sacrilege, abuse and indifference. The vast majority of Roman Catholics no longer kneel to receive Him, and a significant percentage of Catholics no longer recognize the Holy Eucharist as the Real Presence.

Back up this fiction with some facts please .

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

Back up this fiction with some facts please .

What you quoted is not something I wrote. Please re-read the post.

 

[Rhamiel]

why try to disparage other Catholics?
the lack of humility is sad...

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Back up this fiction with some facts please .

The church we left had no kneelers and we received while standing in our hand. It was very... untraditional. They have abuses as well.

That is my families expereince.

As to the OP, I think on the tongue is the finest method and most pious. I know we are allowed to receive it on the hand but I think that can be a gateway to abuses for some. So, as to protect those that could fall away I think more churches should adopt the "on the tongue" unless asked otherwise.

 

[epiclesis]

It's something that got so out of control and lasted so long that now people think that they have a right to receive on their hands.

That swine flu stupidity paved the way for Modernists to block reception on the tongue too! My diocese and many others disallowed it because they didn't want anyone to somehow catch swine flu and now fewer people than ever receive on their tongue!

Quit paying attention to what other people do while receiving the Eucharist and focus on your own prayers.

 

[GrowingSmaller]

How was it recieved at the last supper? Wasn't is a "seder" meal or something?

 

[GrowingSmaller]

I like to kneel at the rail, but unfortunately the complete Latin Rite won't fit into my brain.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

How was it recieved at the last supper? Wasn't is a "seder" meal or something?

Shhh! Don't confuse those who's ego identity is linked to their religion.

They take great offense, because when you question any part of the religion, your actually attacking their ego.

Not long ago, such people would've felt justified in killing you for not agreeing with them.

Jim

 

[Antigone]

I receive it on the hand but because thats how i was taught...

Same here.

In fact, NONE of the churches I've ever visited give communion on the tongue. None. It's just not done over here. And I resent the implication that this is somehow unholy, less valid, than receiving it on the tongue.. It isn't.

 

[RobNJ]

That swine flu stupidity paved the way for Modernists to block reception on the tongue too! My diocese and many others disallowed it because they didn't want anyone to somehow catch swine flu and now fewer people than ever receive on their tongue!

I always said that IF someone thought they got sick, from taking Communion, they should consider it a sign from above.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It's something that got so out of control and lasted so long that now people think that they have a right to receive on their hands.

That swine flu stupidity paved the way for Modernists to block reception on the tongue too! My diocese and many others disallowed it because they didn't want anyone to somehow catch swine flu and now fewer people than ever receive on their tongue!

10,837 people died from the Swine Flu in 2009. Swine Flu Count - Worldwide statistics of the H1N1 Influenza A Pandemic

I don't think it was stupidity to do what was necessary to keep the virus from reaching pandemic proportions.


Jim

 

[Consiglieri]

ChristoEtEcclesiae[/URL]] The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Savior is frequently being treated with disdain and irreverence

It is not. It is extremely rare. "Frequently" is deliberately misleading.

It's something that got so out of control and lasted so long that now people think that they have a right to receive on their hands.

They do.

I don't like the Sign of Peace at all.

Want to meet your fellow parishioners? Go to a potluck dinner.

You obviously don't understand the point. Reading the GIRM might help.

Quit paying attention to what other people do while receiving the Eucharist and focus on your own prayers.

Exactly.

 

[QuantaCura]

Shhh! Don't confuse those who's ego identity is linked to their religion.

They take great offense, because when you question any part of the religion, your actually attacking their ego.

Not long ago, such people would've felt justified in killing you for not agreeing with them.

Jim

It cuts both ways. The people getting upset by th OPs post also fall under your condemnation. Anyway, when one's religion is attacked, you should feel it in the greatest depths of your heart. As Henri Cardinal de Lubac said (and he speaks of dogmas here, but the manner in which we worship God should also be as important to us):

"Men of too familiar and too passive a faith, perhaps for us dogmas are no longer the Mystery on which we live, the Mystery which is to be accomplished in us. Consequently then, heresy no longer shocks us; at least, it no longer convulses us like something trying to tear the soul of our souls away from us....It is not always charity, alas, which has grown greater, or which has become more enlightened: it is often faith, the taste for the things of eternity, which has grown less.”

 

[QuantaCura]

As to the OP, receiving communion in the hand is not wrong in principle, so a person can receive in that manner just as worthily and with just as much devotion as if they had received directly from the hand of the priest. It was practiced in the Church in various times and places, although it seems it was mostly so in the East in the first millenium (the Quinisext Council actually excommunicates people who do not receive in the hand, for example). There was also a common practice of bringing a portion of the Eucharist home and self-communicating, again, mostly in the East it seems.

Anyway, as a practical matter and without passing judgment on the disposition of any particular person, I think it can be a good thing to ask whether one manner or the other in general does more to engender a respect for the Sacrament, for the Priesthood, for sacred things in general etc. That's how these decisions ultimately should be made. Also it can be asked why it was restricted to the tongue in the first place and why some places begin breaking this rule which lead to the indult. There's no harm in asking those questions and if someone with enough competence puts together a credible study, it should be used to inform the Pastors so that they can direct their flocks in a way that is most conducive to respect for the Sacrament, etc.--which itself is ultimately is conducive to salvation.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

It cuts both ways. The people getting upset by th OPs post also fall under your condemnation. Anyway, when one's religion is attacked, you should feel it in the greatest depths of your heart. As Henri Cardinal de Lubac said (and he speaks of dogmas here, but the manner in which we worship God should also be as important to us):

"Men of too familiar and too passive a faith, perhaps for us dogmas are no longer the Mystery on which we live, the Mystery which is to be accomplished in us. Consequently then, heresy no longer shocks us; at least, it no longer convulses us like something trying to tear the soul of our souls away from us....It is not always charity, alas, which has grown greater, or which has become more enlightened: it is often faith, the taste for the things of eternity, which has grown less.”

Problem is, no one is attacking anyone's religion here and whats being presented isn't heresy.

Its just another thread opposing receiving communion in the hand, which we can't even get beyond 48 hours before a new thread on the same subject is opened again.

Jim