Communion in the hand

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

I've yet to see anyone here dispute what the recent popes have said about touching the Body of Christ.

 

[epiclesis]

USCCB - Committee on the Liturgy - Chapter IV

the GIRM #160.

 

[Colin]

I think on the tongue is the finest method and most pious.

Why ?

 

[Colin]

Quit paying attention to what other people do while receiving the Eucharist and focus on your own prayers.

 

[Colin]

It is not. It is extremely rare. "Frequently" is deliberately misleading.
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[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

How was it recieved at the last supper? Wasn't is a "seder" meal or something?

You do realize that the Twelve were basically ordained ministers themselves, right?

 

[Colin]

It cuts both ways.

Not with you .

 

[JimR-OCDS]

You do realize that the Twelve were basically ordained ministers themselves, right?

OK, but then how did the Apostles distribute Holy Communion to the people, on the tongue or in the hand?


Jim

 

[Colin]

I've yet to see anyone here dispute what the recent popes have said about touching the Body of Christ.

Provide their exact words so that we consider whether to dispute .

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Isn't it about time to have another thread opposing holding hands during the Lord's Prayer at Mass?

We seem to be behind CAF where threads on these two topics open up every other day.


Jim

 

[Colin]

It was practiced in the Church in various times and places

Was it now ? How interesting .

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

Provide their exact words so that we consider whether to dispute .

You didn't see the link?

Isn't it about time to have another thread opposing holding hands during the Lord's Prayer at Mass?

We seem to be behind CAF where threads on these two topics open up every other day.

Aren't you the guy who seriously thought that letting pretty much anyone off the street be an EMHC was fine?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

You didn't see the link?



Aren't you the guy who seriously thought that letting pretty much anyone off the street be an EMHC was fine?

No, you must have me confused with some one else.


Jim

 

[AMDG]

Isn't it about time to have another thread opposing holding hands during the Lord's Prayer at Mass?

No, no, noooo. Bite your tongue (or should I say "slap your fingers".)

You are a little devil aren't you? Always trying to get a rise.

Just follow what the GIRM states and be done with it!

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

Most surprising is the lack of concern here for particles of the Body being dropped and walked upon. Receiving on the tongue makes it harder for this to happen because only the priest touches it and once it is placed on the tongue it is consumed.

 

[QuantaCura]

Problem is, no one is attacking anyone's religion here and whats being presented isn't heresy.
Jim

No, but the OP is attacking a particular religious practice of others, in fact a practice related to the absolute summit on this earth of one' relationship with God (the reception of Holy Communion). Obviously when that is attacked, it is going to provoke a reaction. When the other practice, which was held sacred by so many for so long was all of a sudden cast aside, that was also going to provoke a reaction which obviously still reverberates to this day.

You see it as someone on an ego trip or something--but religion in belief and practice, touches the very depths of one's soul and so feeling it very personally is not that surprising, nor is it necessarily the sign of any kind of disordered heart. Ultimately, we must move beyond the feelings (which may or may not cause one to reevaluate their own beliefs, etc.) but as weak and fallen human beings that is not always easy.

 

[Consiglieri]

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[QuantaCura]

Plus, catching any particles, etc. that might fall is what the communion plate is for (see Redemptionis Sacramentum 93, citing GIRM 118).

 

[JimR-OCDS]

QuantaCura;

You see it as someone on an ego trip or something--

Not an ego trip per se, but ego identity. Its the ego attaching itself to something, in this case, Catholic tradition and culture, in order to present an image of the self to those outside the Church, which they view as "others." The more Catholic the better, which is why they are so attracted to the Latin Mass and Gregorian Chant, which isn't bad in its right purpose, but they go futher by demanding that the entire Catholic begin to change to this extraordinary form over the norm. Its because of this ego-identity, they demand that the entire church live up to the image their ego created.

If their life was Christ centered, these things would be meaningless.

but religion in belief and practice, touches the very depths of one's soul and so feeling it very personally is not that surprising, nor is it necessarily the sign of any kind of disordered heart.

Such attachment is ego-identity centered and threats to tradition and culture, threaten the ego, which is why they react so offensively.

A person who is Christ centered will feel pain when Christ is being offended, but such people are so Christ-like, they return with retaliation, especially towards things the Church allows.

Ultimately, we must move beyond the feelings (which may or may not cause one to reevaluate their own beliefs, etc.) but as weak and fallen human beings that is not always easy.

Its not easy and it is only through the transforming grace give by God in our souls, that we can be transformed.

However, as long as we are attached to disordered ego-identities, our growth will be at a standstill. Worse, we'll drive others away from Christ for we'll just come across as nasty religious fanatics.


Jim

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The bottom line for me on this issue is, the Pope should make it one way or another.

If he feels that receiving on the tongue while kneeling is the proper form, then make it the norm for the entire Catholic Church and prohibit receiving in the hand while standing.

Until that happens, can we stop the threads demanding that it stop?

Jim