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Just another contradiction
There is no contradiction. Moses had all of God's plan of salvation. This is why nothing new was added after Moses. Only people have a better understanding now then what they did back in the days of Moses. Moses may give us two or three words. Then later on a prophet of God will take two or three chapters to explain to us what the meaning of those words are. A lot of the words in the Bible would take a whole book to explain their meaning. Gerold Schroeder talks about how there are hundreds of thousands of books in the Weidner library and none of them contradict the Bible in anyway.

"In trying to understand the flow of time here, you have to remember that the entire Six Days is described in 31 sentences. The Six Days of Genesis, which have given people so many headaches are confined to 31 sentences! At MIT, in the Hayden library, we had about 50,000 books that deal with the development of the universe: cosmology, chemistry, thermodynamics, paleontology, archaeology, the high-energy physics of creation. Up the river at Harvard, at the Weidner library, they probably have 200,000 books on these same topics. The Bible gives us 31 sentences. Don't expect that by a simple reading of those sentences, you'll know every detail that is held within the text. It's obvious that we have to dig deeper to get the information out."

Gerald Schroeder - Articles - Age of the Universe
 
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What? You do know that a lot of the texts in the Bible were written a lot later than 3500 years ago right? And that the Bible itself as a collection of written works has been largely determined by various religious councils over the years, has been subject to change, and tends to vary depending on one's particular religious belief.

Not to mention all the translations the Bible has gone through.

The idea that the Bible is a static, unchanging document is quite contrary to its history.

He has made so many contradicting statements, he can't keep up with them all.
 
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There is no contradiction. Moses had all of God's plan of salvation. This is why nothing new was added after Moses. Only people have a better understanding now then what they did back in the days of Moses. Moses may give us two or three words. Then later on a prophet of God will take two or three chapters to explain to us what the meaning of those words are. A lot of the words in the Bible would take a whole book to explain their meaning. Gerold Schroeder talks about how there are hundreds of thousands of books in the Weidner library and none of them contradict the Bible in anyway.

"In trying to understand the flow of time here, you have to remember that the entire Six Days is described in 31 sentences. The Six Days of Genesis, which have given people so many headaches are confined to 31 sentences! At MIT, in the Hayden library, we had about 50,000 books that deal with the development of the universe: cosmology, chemistry, thermodynamics, paleontology, archaeology, the high-energy physics of creation. Up the river at Harvard, at the Weidner library, they probably have 200,000 books on these same topics. The Bible gives us 31 sentences. Don't expect that by a simple reading of those sentences, you'll know every detail that is held within the text. It's obvious that we have to dig deeper to get the information out."

Gerald Schroeder - Articles - Age of the Universe

Your posts are commonly full of contradictions.
 
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What? You do know that a lot of the texts in the Bible were written a lot later than 3500 years ago right? And that the Bible itself as a collection of written works has been largely determined by various religious councils over the years, has been subject to change, and tends to vary depending on one's particular religious belief.
Yes of course I know that. All I am saying is that Moses had all of God's plan of salvation and no one has added anything to what Moses said.

The Bible was written over a span of 1500 years, by 40 writers. Unlike other religious writings, the Bible reads as a factual news account of real events, places, people, and dialogue. Historians and archaeologists have repeatedly confirmed its authenticity.
 
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He has made so many contradicting statements, he can't keep up with them all.
Someday you will understand. We have a lifetime to learn what God wants us to know.
 
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How did you determine the moon landings were real?
By a flip of the coin:

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Yes of course I know that. All I am saying is that Moses had all of God's plan of salvation and no one has added anything to what Moses said.

The Bible was written over a span of 1500 years, by 40 writers. Unlike other religious writings, the Bible reads as a factual news account of real events, places, people, and dialogue. Historians and archaeologists have repeatedly confirmed its authenticity.

Most Phd level NT historians state; the NT is more a work of theology, than it is a work of reliable history.
 
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Unlike other religious writings, the Bible reads as a factual news account of real events, places, people, and dialogue.

Sure, but a lot of fictional works read the same way. Just because something reads like its an account of something doesn't mean it's actually an account of something. Humans are fantastic story tellers.

Historians and archaeologists have repeatedly confirmed its authenticity.

Not really. There is tremendous debate over the veracity of events depicted in the Bible, including some that are considered to have never actually happened (i.e. Noah's Flood, the Exodus, etc).
 
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Sure, but a lot of fictional works read the same way. Just because something reads like its an account of something doesn't mean it's actually an account of something. Humans are fantastic story tellers.



Not really. There is tremendous debate over the veracity of events depicted in the Bible, including some that are considered to have never actually happened (i.e. Noah's Flood, the Exodus, etc).

As a general rule, NT historians have consensus on about 4 things that have some historical credibility; Jesus was a real person, Jesus was baptized, Jesus had followers and Jesus was crucified. Beyond that, it requires faith to believe the story.
 
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Does this mean you are 50% confident the moon landings happened? Did you do; 2 out of 3?
Have you ever heard of my Boolean standards?
  1. If the Bible says X, and science says X, go with X.
  2. If the Bible says X, and science says Y, go with X.
  3. If the Bible is silent, and science says X, go with X.
The moon landings would fall under #3 above.
 
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Have you ever heard of my Boolean standards?
  1. If the Bible says X, and science says X, go with X.
  2. If the Bible says X, and science says Y, go with X.
  3. If the Bible is silent, and science says X, go with X.
The moon landings would fall under #3 above.

Cool.
 
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Humans are fantastic story tellers.
A lot of Christian books are allegories. There is a woman named Kat Kerr that tells stories about Heaven. She tells stories about friendly forests and gingerbread houses and the sort of stuff you usually read in a children's story books. If that is what you want then there is a lot of that available.
 
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LOL. You claim the bible is too advanced but yet state, science shows the bible is 100% true. Just another contradiction you have provided for us.
The Bible shows not just everything we know about Science is true. The Bible shows everything we will ever know about Science is true. 1000 years from now we will now a lot more about Science then what we know today. Still with all that new information the Bible will remain the same and unchanged. Only the Science book will go through many many revisions in the next 1,000 years.
 
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The Bible shows not just everything we know about Science is true. The Bible shows everything we will ever know about Science is true. 1000 years from now we will now a lot more about Science then what we know today. Still with all that new information the Bible will remain the same and unchanged. Only the Science book will go through many many revisions in the next 1,000 years.
Too bad you have never been able to support this claim.
 
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Too bad you have never been able to support this claim.
I have provided you with abundant overwhelming support. My hands are clean, I have delivered what God sent me to deliver. What people do with that is totally up to them and their response has no effect on me. It is when I do not say anything that I am held accountable. There are sins of omission and sins of commission. We need to be aware of both.

Ezekiel 33:7 “Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. 8 When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked person, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak out to dissuade them from their ways, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. 9 But if you do warn the wicked person to turn from their ways and they do not do so, they will die for their sin, though you yourself will be saved.
 
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