Coheed and Cambria.

[Breaking Babylon]

Until these guys, I never even had a favorite band. In my eyes[and ears], these guys are the best thing in modern music, and are like... the next Led Zeppelin. The music overall gives me the chills, the innovative concept of the music is absolutely amazing to me, Claudio Sanchez' vocal ability is awesome, and there's not a song I've heard that I don't like.

A Favor House Atlantic, In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth, Velorium Camper II: Backend of Forever, The Crowing... I hope I'm not the only person on this forum who deeply appreciates songs like these!

Just wondering about peoples thoughts on them. Post some of your favorite songs or lyrics if you'd like.

 

[foo-oswald]

I posted a thread the day (after?) the new album came out, and it didn't get much response.

I love those guys, though. Very refreshing sound they've got...

 

[Breaking Babylon]

Glad someone agrees! They're also some of the most down-to-earth guys you'd ever meet, so I'd hear. Claudio took lots of pictures and autographs at Comic-Con at the release of the graphic novel, and he's been known to drop by on the cobalt and calcium fansite forums and drop a line unexpectedly. And they're obviously pretty busy guys, so...

Yeah. Hope I don't sound too fanboyish here, but these guys are the biggest thing in music right now.

 

[Opethian]

You mean the biggest thing in the tiny amount of music you've heard, and the biggest thing to you, right?

 

[Opethian]

The singer is horrible and the singing melodies and guitar riffs are very cliché and unoriginal and remind me of emo bands. Actually isn't this an emo band? :s

 

[Breaking Babylon]

...in the tiny amount of music you've heard...

Why would you assume that?

Anyway, this isn't the place for that discussion. Thanks for your input on the band.

 

[foo-oswald]

You mean the biggest thing in the tiny amount of music you've heard, and the biggest thing to you, right? The singer is horrible and the singing melodies and guitar riffs are very cliché and unoriginal and remind me of emo bands. Actually isn't this an emo band? :s

You mean "the singer is horrible and the singing melodies and guitar riffs are very cliche and unoriginal and remind (you) of emo bands" to you, right?

I mean, you will admit that your opinion is just as subjective as anyone else's, right?

 

[Firehotchickadee234]

I don't Mind them but they're not the greatest (to me at least )

 

[Citanul]

Actually isn't this an emo band? :s

The early stuff may have sounded emo, but lyrically it completely different from the typical emo style. With subsequent albums they've moved in a more progressive direction, and while there are still emo elements, they're definitely not one anymore.

 

[Opethian]

Why would you assume that?

Because there is such a vast amount of music out there, mostly unknown, that almost everybody has just heard a tiny fraction of the music out there (including me). That, and the fact that you think this is in some way innovative music.

Anyway, this isn't the place for that discussion. Thanks for your input on the band.

Ok.

You mean "the singer is horrible and the singing melodies and guitar riffs are very cliche and unoriginal and remind (you) of emo bands" to you, right?

I mean, you will admit that your opinion is just as subjective as anyone else's, right?

No, I am the central reference of good taste and facts.
Of course this is just my opinion, and my opinion is just as subjective as anyone elses. I'm just saying, go do more research and find more music on the internet before claiming some average band to be the biggest thing in modern music.

 

[Breaking Babylon]

How many songs of theirs have you heard? Do you know the concept behind the music? Are you judging their abilities based on music videos you've seen alone?

What I'm saying is these guys deserve to be where they're at. It's a welcome break from the cliche, and even if you were to send 1000 underground artists CD's my way I doubt my opinion on Coheed and Cambria would change. I love the guys. To me, they're anything but average. If I say "Based on everything I've heard, they're the biggest thing in modern music" can we draw a line and call it even?

I'd like to see some contributions to this thread that's something more than clashing opinions, that's all.

 

[foo-oswald]

No, I am the central reference of good taste and facts.

Ah, low-brow teenage sarcasm. I never get tired of it. Seriously, though, I responded that way because of this:

You mean the biggest thing in the tiny amount of music you've heard, and the biggest thing to you, right?

...which was your OP.

Of course this is just my opinion, and my opinion is just as subjective as anyone elses.

As you're aware, that's what most of these posts are: differing opinions. If it aggravates you to the point that you must roll your eyes in contempt, then, in the future, don't word your "opinions" like this:

The singer is horrible and the singing melodies and guitar riffs are very cliché and unoriginal and remind me of emo bands. Actually isn't this an emo band?

...see the difference?

I'm just saying, go do more research and find more music on the internet before claiming some average band to be the biggest thing in modern music.

First of all, he never said they were "the biggest thing in modern music". He said they were the "best thing in modern music" in his opinion.

Regardless of what was said, he phrased it in a way that made it clear that he was offering his opinion. All you've done since then is make ridiculous assumptions about how wide his musical palete in what appears to be a lame attempt to bolster your opinion of the band. Gimme a break...

And, based on the fact that you asked if they were an emo band, it sounds like you're the one who needs to do a little research before ripping off those little nuggets...

 

[aca_rev55]

I like Coheed & Cambria... I haven't listened to them much, but what I've heard they're good.

It really is annoying when you post a thread and ask if anybody else LIKES them... then you get some fool explaining why they don't. How unnecessary and rude.

 

[TheGreatGobi]

They are awesome. I need to go listen to some now.

 

[Opethian]

How many songs of theirs have you heard? Do you know the concept behind the music? Are you judging their abilities based on music videos you've seen alone?

I don't watch any music video channels so no. I have heard a whole range of songs from all their albums (downloaded), as I do with most artists to see if I like their music before I go out and buy their albums (which I did not do in this case obviously). Yes, I know that each of their albums is a concept album and that they tell different parts of a saga revolving around Coheed and Cambria, they started with part 2, then 3, then 4 and ultimately they will release the first part. That said, I must admit I don't know a lot about the storyline, so I am just talking purely about the music. A concept can make good music better and more enjoyable, but if the music is only average in the first place (imo), this concept is not going to alter much. I do have respect for them that they try to enhance and uplift the musical art through the use of this concept, but I just wish the music was better in the first place.

What I'm saying is these guys deserve to be where they're at.

Sure, I'm not disagreeing with you about this, all I was talking about was the fact that you said that "these guys are the biggest thing in music right now".

It's a welcome break from the cliche, and even if you were to send 1000 underground artists CD's my way I doubt my opinion on Coheed and Cambria would change. I love the guys. To me, they're anything but average. If I say "Based on everything I've heard, they're the biggest thing in modern music" can we draw a line and call it even?

Of course, nothing in my initial post was meant to offend you or the band or to start a big hostile debate or anything. I'm just always trying to let people know that there are many things beyond their view of the musical world. Always stay exploring.

I'd like to see some contributions to this thread that's something more than clashing opinions, that's all.

Ok, I have no problem at all with that.

 

[Opethian]

Ah, low-brow teenage sarcasm. I never get tired of it. Seriously, though, I responded that way because of this.


...which was your OP.

As you're aware, that's what most of these posts are: differing opinions. If it aggravates you to the point that you must roll your eyes in contempt, then, in the future, don't word your "opinions" like this:

Dude, chill. I wasn't rolling my eyes in contempt, I was rolling my eyes sarcastically and jokingly. There was no harm meant with the bit, and I think you're taking all this just a bit too seriously. Of course I understand that it's sometimes hard to see the tone and emotions someone writes a post with, so you probably took what I said with more seriousness and hostility than I ever intended.

First of all, he never said they were "the biggest thing in modern music". He said they were the "best thing in modern music" in his opinion.

In his first post he said

In my eyes[and ears], these guys are the best thing in modern music, and are like... the next Led Zeppelin

Which would make you right, if not for the third post:

Yeah. Hope I don't sound too fanboyish here, but these guys are the biggest thing in music right now.

Regardless of what was said, he phrased it in a way that made it clear that he was offering his opinion.

Not in the third post, but what does it matter anyways. As I have stated before, my initial goal was not to **** on anyone's favorite band, but just to let them know that there's so much more to explore than mainstream music.

All you've done since then is make ridiculous assumptions about how wide his musical palete in what appears to be a lame attempt to bolster your opinion of the band. Gimme a break...

That was not my intention at all.

And, based on the fact that you asked if they were an emo band, it sounds like you're the one who needs to do a little research before ripping off those little nuggets...

Sorry, but based on any of their records, they ARE an emo band. The emo influences are apparent throughout everything from vocals to basic melodies, breakdowns, the way they write etc... Yet, in the same way, they are also a prog rock band, a metal band, and an alternative band with some punk influences.

Just because a band extends beyond one single genre, doesn't mean that genre isn't highly present in their music anymore.
But anyway, I would like to stop this discussion, as discussing this was not my goal in the first place, and I'm sure Blake Michael didn't intend this thread for debating and discussing, as he already mentioned.

 

[foo-oswald]

Dude, chill. I wasn't rolling my eyes in contempt, I was rolling my eyes sarcastically and jokingly. There was no harm meant with the bit, and I think you're taking all this just a bit too seriously.

No...I'm not. That's why I opined about your sarcasm.

Of course I understand that it's sometimes hard to see the tone and emotions someone writes a post with, so you probably took what I said with more seriousness and hostility than I ever intended.

Probably so. But, like you said, it's difficult to determine how serious one is, or isn't, when reading their words.

In his first post he said...

...Which would make you right, if not for the third post:

Ouch. Yeah, you got me there. I missed that third post. Touche'

As I have stated before, my initial goal was not to **** on anyone's favorite band, but just to let them know that there's so much more to explore than mainstream music.

Wow. I find it difficult to believe that based on your first two posts in this thread. If that's not ****ing on one's favorite band, I don't know what is...

Just because a band extends beyond one single genre, doesn't mean that genre isn't highly present in their music anymore.

Well said. I agree with you. However, I don't feel that Coheed & Cambria fall into the emo category. My reason is that they don't take themselves very seriously in their music, lyrics, or style, which is the polar-opposite of any emo band out there. There's almost a Spinal Tap-ish element to the band...

 

[konar]

i think that that music is cool to

 

[konar]

what makes music cool

 

[konar]

is it the way it sounds