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Climate change, deforestation, mass extinction...

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What if it's wrong?
What if what is wrong?
Torah?
Words don,t come easy,
not for Moses either, that,s why he was chosen,
and not a slick salesman who would have spoken his own Words.
The prophesy from the Academy of Eliyahu is based on Torah,
Six Days of Creation,
In the six hundreth year in the Life of Noah,
The World is destined to exist 6,000 years, (it is now 5775)

It is going to be good.
Ps 104:30,
When You will send forth Your spirit they will be created anew,
and You will renew the face of the Earth.
 
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Also,
I have considerd this,
most if not all I meet and talk to are scared of something,
This the "Sharks" know, and feed on it,
They cash in on it,
They use it to gain control over the the minds of the masses, it becomes hysteri.
 
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I realize temps are higher. The earth is getting warmer. It is in a cycle. That is what the earth does.

I am just not convinced that mankind is what is causing it

Global warming is a consequence of increased in green gasses caused by the use of fossil fuels.

And what if you ARE right? What are you gonna do? Kill off mankind so you can save the planet? Save it for who?

how about decreasing carbon emissions?
 
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And what if you ARE right? What are you gonna do? Kill off mankind so you can save the planet? Save it for who?

Or, you know, find alternate--clean--energy sources other than fossil fuels, work toward cleaning up the environment, that sort of thing.

Because that's how sane people would respond to the problems we've been seeing for the last several decades.

Killing off the human race is hardly the answer for how we can take better care of our world--is this your fear? That every environmentalist and pro-green person is actually a genocidal maniac? If so, you know how completely bonkers that comes across yes?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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If there is anything we are good at, it is polluting and making a noise.
How it will be in the endtimes prior to the coming of the Messiah?
It is foretold.
When will he come?
64,000 dollar question.
But we are to await him at any moment.
 
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You are the guys who are saying we can't stop it. I'm just saying maybe we didn't even cause it in the first place.

And anyway I am saying I certainly don't want the Government to do it. Scariest words in the English language: "I am from the Government and I am here to help." Just like EPA helped to contaminate the Colorado River the other day. How bonkers is that for ya?
 
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The bible says that those that destroy the earth will have to stand in Judgment for it.

Revelation 11:18
English Standard Version
The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.”

Isaiah 24 and Revelation talk about the destruction of the earth that is going to happen, with a third of the fish disappearing from the sea, and a third of the trees were burned up, Revelation 8. I'm not sure about climate change, but I'm sure about the deforestation and pollution and the seas losing fish. To me it looks like the destruction of the environment is brought on by people, but the Bible says it is brought on by God for us breaking the covenant and breaking the laws.

http://www.discoverrevelation.com/19.html

http://godsgoodnews.com/Is24.html
 
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Killing off the human race is hardly the answer for how we can take better care of our world--is this your fear? That every environmentalist and pro-green person is actually a genocidal maniac? If so, you know how completely bonkers that comes across yes?

-CryptoLutheran


Destroying the planet would be the best way to kill off the human race.
 
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You are the guys who are saying we can't stop it. I'm just saying maybe we didn't even cause it in the first place.

I think it's really at a point where it doesn't matter who or what caused it. The scientific community's consensus is that it's real and getting worse and since we have the capacity to manage it, we have the responsibility to do so.

And anyway I am saying I certainly don't want the Government to do it. Scariest words in the English language: "I am from the Government and I am here to help." Just like EPA helped to contaminate the Colorado River the other day. How bonkers is that for ya?

The river spill was extremely disappointing to be sure. But we don't have to rely strictly on the government. There are countless things that individuals can do of their own free will.
 
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I think it's really at a point where it doesn't matter who or what caused it. The scientific community's consensus is that it's real and getting worse and since we have the capacity to manage it, we have the responsibility to do so.



The river spill was extremely disappointing to be sure. But we don't have to rely strictly on the government. There are countless things that individuals can do of their own free will.


A lifeboat full of people each one has their seat, one of these people stands up and is about to drill a hole in the bottom of the boat.
They all protest, "You cannot do that , we will all drown"
" It,s my seat. I do what I like."

What is the root cause?
 
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Environmental issues may not be exactly a question of religion or faith - yet bizarrely enough, there are people out there who treat them as if they were. Bafflingly enough, conservative think tanks who feel that any change to the status quo would endanger their future profits have managed to convince a considerable portion of the population that it's all a big controversy, that the verdict is not yet in, and that those who'd call for an immediate response to these threats are loopy fanatics who don't know what's what.

And all the while, the rainforests keep on dwindling, the oceans are not only plagued by growing garbage patches but also subject to acidification, which may cause the entire marine ecosystem to collapse from the bottom up, species everywhere are disappearing at a rate that you'd otherwise associate with major natural catastrophes, our own species grows at an alarming rate, and we are using up natural resources at a pace that would require several planets at the same time to sustain.

The thing is: none of this is a controversy. The verdict of the scientific community (i.e. people who deal with these matters professionally and have all the data at hand) is virtually unanimous. To deny it and pretend that it's still nothing more than some wishy-washy hypothesis is the rough equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and going "LALALA!!! I CANNOT HEAR YOU!!"

So... how does your religion relate to the devastating effect our post-industrial species has on the planet, and what does it have to say about combating the mess we've created?
My religion condemns it.
We're supposed to be stewards of creation, not marketers of it.
 
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A lifeboat full of people each one has their seat, one of these people stands up and is about to drill a hole in the bottom of the boat.
They all protest, "You cannot do that , we will all drown"
" It,s my seat. I do what I like."

What is the root cause?
Sounds like suicidal ignorance to begin with.
 
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Of course.
But what is the driving force that brings forth such actions?

No one is an Island unto themselves.
They are in some sense, and they are not in another...

Suicide is driven generally by fear and loathing.
Ignorance is a gift of birth.

Good morning!
 
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They are in some sense, and they are not in another...

Suicide is driven generally by fear and loathing.
Ignorance is a gift of birth.

Good morning!

What is the driving force that brings forth such actions?
That was my question.
Good afternoon to you.
 
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We've made selfishness a political ideology and the irony is that it has the support of the religious right.

I think it's the other way around.
The religious right rejected the science (like they do) and the GOP's political ideology to kiss their butts for the votes (like they do).
 
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