Climate change, deforestation, mass extinction...

Robban · Aug 13, 2015

I,m not really sure what comes under the heading, "Science"

For example, it is not unusual for someone to say, "Picking mushrooms is a whole science."

I realize we are where we are today much because of science, and mistakes, accidents.
stumbling across something.

But it may be better if seen as a scientific explanation and a "spirital" explanation.
Or different worlds but same planet.
It is thought by some that, at the end of these Days/era/age Before going over into the next, that, Science and Torah will converge.

Robban · Aug 13, 2015

As in the Days of Noah.
The portals of wisdom above,
and the fountains of wisdom below,
will be opened.
Torah from above,
and,
science from below.

zippy2 · Aug 13, 2015

I am afraid you might be right.

Zoness · Aug 13, 2015

At any rate, I'm more interested in improving the state of the world rather than entertaining apocalyptic fantasies of the end times.

smaneck · Aug 13, 2015

awitch said:
I think it's the other way around.
The religious right rejected the science (like they do) and the GOP's political ideology to kiss their butts for the votes (like they do).

not in this case. otherwise why would the religious right which rejects scientific Darwinism be so eager to embrace Social Darwinism?

Rick Otto · Aug 14, 2015

zippy2 said:
They're gonna throw somebody overboard I just know it.

Yeah,... maybe the guy with the drill just needs to go for a swim.

Rick Otto · Aug 14, 2015

Robban said:
What is the driving force that brings forth such actions?
That was my question.
Good afternoon to you.

Fear and loathing are powerful forces that drive the fight or flight instinct.
How that force gets directed toward self &/or others, is a separate question... think of psychology as roughly analogous to hydraulics to get a picture of how form and function come together.

Rick Otto · Aug 14, 2015

smaneck said:
not in this case. otherwise why would the religious right which rejects scientific Darwinism be so eager to embrace Social Darwinism?

It doesn't make sense they would be, except unconsciously so... and that may be because even though biological evolution has some problems with it, the concept of evolving is within reason, an obviously valid construct.

smaneck · Aug 14, 2015

Rick Otto said:
It doesn't make sense they would be, except unconsciously so... and that may be because even though biological evolution has some problems with it, the concept of evolving is within reason, an obviously valid construct.

Except Social Darwinism isn't really about evolving it is about survival of the fittest and the concept that those who on the top or bottom of the social-economic scale deserve to be there.

Aidan K · Aug 14, 2015

smaneck said:
Except Social Darwinism isn't really about evolving it is about survival of the fittest and the concept that those who on the top or bottom of the social-economic scale deserve to be there.

Is that like Nietzsches übermensch?

brewmama · Aug 14, 2015

smaneck said:
It hasn't. Climate Change was a term invented by the political right in order to avoid the more ominous sounding Global Warming. Eventually people seemed to accept it as a euphemism for the same thing. The possibility of the Global Cooling is a something proposed by only a small minority of scientists. If the polar ice caps melt too quickly it is possible that cold water suddenly flowing into the Atlantic could stop the jet stream from flowing creating another Younger Dryas Event, but that would likely be temporary and causing a colder climate in Europe and West Asia but not effect global climate as a whole.

Then why do the alarmists use the term for absolutely everything now? Cold winters, warm winters, floods. droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, forest fires, etc etc is now always due to the mythical climate change!

And there is no proof that any of the wild and wacky predictions that you love to throw out are happening or will happen.

awitch · Aug 14, 2015

brewmama said:
And there is no proof that any of the wild and wacky predictions that you love to throw out are happening or will happen.

Hey, remember the Aleutian Islands?

brewmama · Aug 14, 2015

awitch said:
Hey, remember the Aleutian Islands?

What about them?

awitch · Aug 14, 2015

brewmama said:
What about them?

You don't know?

brewmama · Aug 14, 2015

awitch said:
You don't know?

That they had an earthquake?

awitch · Aug 14, 2015

brewmama said:
That they had an earthquake?

No, that was here in NJ last night.

smaneck · Aug 14, 2015

Aidan K said:
Is that like Nietzsches übermensch?

LOL. Nietzches' Superman was intended to be a protest against the Christian value of humility. Would have been so unnecessary if he'd only heard American evangelical victorious Christian living!

Okay Via Crucis, there is your cue.

Rick Otto · Aug 14, 2015

smaneck said:
Except Social Darwinism isn't really about evolving it is about survival of the fittest and the concept that those who on the top or bottom of the social-economic scale deserve to be there.

Yeah, but that's just what it's really about.

smaneck · Aug 15, 2015

brewmama said:
And there is no proof that any of the wild and wacky predictions that you love to throw out are happening or will happen.

What more proof do you need?

Robban · Aug 15, 2015

Rick Otto said:
Fear and loathing are powerful forces that drive the fight or flight instinct.
How that force gets directed toward self &/or others, is a separate question... think of psychology as roughly analogous to hydraulics to get a picture of how form and function come together.

Not sure if we are tuned in to the same station, over.

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