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Cliffe Knechtle on the 6 days in Genesis

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Does a skilled wizard heal the blind? No.
For people that love to scream at everything as being offensive, you all sure do know how to be utter hypocrites.

I thought that was a good question. I said I accept that a miracle is not magic. How was I being a hypocrite?
 
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I thought that was a good question. I said I accept that a miracle is not magic. How was I being a hypocrite?

Equating miracles to magic to a religious person is extremely offensive to their beliefs, and I don't entertain that sort of blasphemy. So if anyone is thinking I'm going to have a deeper conversation on that or anything relevant to it, I'm not.
 
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The Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus (1766-1834). Please give him his correct title.
How about you guys take your own advice?

Instead of saying, "men wrote the Bible," say, "holy men wrote the Bible."
 
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Equating miracles to magic to a religious person is extremely offensive to their beliefs,
Wait until you see someone ask "How did sky daddy poof this universe into existence?"

They know what they're doing.

They have to change the terminology, else they'll realize the answer is in their own questions.
 
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How did the Sumerians know this? How do you know that the Sumerians knew it? Why do you believe such stuff?
We know because we have their text books. The Sumerians were the first to have a written language and we have found hundreds of thousands of clay tablets.

The Sumerians had what really was the beginning of astrology & astronomy. They had 12 planets and today astrology talks about the influence the planets have upon us. Sumerians were a very peaceful people and they had almost a utopia world according to legend. Only they were conquered by more war like nations that absorbed their science and their beliefs. So the city of Ur was taken over by the Chaldeans and the Sumerian sciences were absorbed into the chaldean culture. The Sumerians invented the wheel. The Assyrians invented the first war charriot using the wheel. Later on, after losing a battle to the Assyrians the Egyptians developed their own war Chariot and they became one of the most powerful nations on Earth at the time. They kept record of their battles with hieroglyphics so we can read about it today. The Sumerians actually had a phonics with an alphabet. That was developed by the Phoenicians into the alphabet we use today. Some countries like China has both systems, the pictures based on symbols and the they also have a system based on phonics and the alphabet.

In the Bible Abraham lived in the city of Ur. He was well educated and when his father died God called Abraham to "come out from among them". Abraham was to separate the truth from the error and this is when we ended up with astrology & astronomy. We see this in evolutionary theory today where the truth and the error is all mixed together as one. Science knows that there is a lot of error in their theory and they are working on getting that resolved. At the time the Chaldeans had mixed the truth and the error so that astrology and astronomy was one.

They teach ancient history in the High School text books today. But there is so much history to learn and today they do not go into as much depth as they did back in the High School I went to 50 years ago.
 
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It's sad that you didn't know that already, you are missing so much that life has to offer, it seems you're dreaming and adjusting your blinkers when you should be living and experiencing life.
Another flame. Let me explain the way things work here. WE ONLY talk about the subject. The poster, IE ME is NOT a topic for conversation. We do not talk about me and we do not talk about you. We ONLY talk about the subject or topic. Any comments about the posters themselves are always going to be unacceptable. We can reveal information about ourselves, like our education and our qualifications. But in general it is considered to be advisable NOT to give out to much personal information in a media like this. If you give out personal information then prepare for a personal attack against you in the way of a flame.
 
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Wait until you see someone ask "How did sky daddy poof this universe into existence?"

They know what they're doing.

They have to change the terminology, else they'll realize the answer is in their own questions.
Read my sig.
 
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Equating miracles to magic to a religious person is extremely offensive to their beliefs, and I don't entertain that sort of blasphemy. So if anyone is thinking I'm going to have a deeper conversation on that or anything relevant to it, I'm not.
Read my sig.
 
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That makes you feel a little better about your beliefs, does it?
No.

I contend it makes scientists feel worse.

That's why they won't use it.
 
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That could well be the problem right there, if believers were told how others feel about their myth believing and they were mocked when they were younger perhaps they would not believe as they do today. [It works in the UK]
When a child gets to a certain age their parents stop telling them that Santa is real, if they continue to believe that Santa is real they get laughed at on the school bus or in school and they soon stop believing, if the same was done with religion the problem could well be nipped in the bud for millions of people.
I do however realise the exact opposite is true of America because the unbelievers [not the unbelievers in Santa] are more than likely to be in the minority on the school bus or in the schools, that's because the parents continue to tell the children that unlike Santa the God is real even when he is only as real as Santa was.
Just because you view religion as foolish doesn't give you the right to harass people because they are religious, and call them stupid in order to push them out of their faith. It makes you no better than the religious people who threw rocks at me because I am openly atheist. It makes you a theology bully.
 
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No.

I contend it makes scientists feel worse.

That's why they won't use it.
You do know a great deal of scientists are religious, right? Heck, I have no issue calling them "holy men", just know I don't view holy as a quality something actually has, just is perceived to have. Which is fair; you perceive them to be holy, while I don't, so from my perspective, that idea of what holy is makes sense.
 
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Use what?
The adjective "holy" in sentences where they say: "Men wrote the Bible."

I'll admit though, I haven't read every single post on this forum.

It's just that, in the past nine and a half years here, I've yet to see a scientist say: "Holy men wrote the Bible."
 
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