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It is easier to believe that somehow Satan experimented with animals and made dinosaurs that it is to believe simply that God also created dinosaurs? Interesting...
I came to my conclusion through reading the Bible, not commentaries. If God calls something unclean it's not rocket science.
I suspect the issue is not whether K4C is willing to admit anything. The insight is found in knowing how the belief serves K4C.Well since it's not rocket science why cant you admit what the scripture proves.
Well since it's not rocket science why cant you admit what the scripture proves.
1. We agree that God originally commanded man to eat vegetables....
Here are more texts rather than commentaries that teach other doctrines.
Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Rom 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that [there is] nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him [it is] unclean.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed [are] pure; but [it is] evil for that man who eateth with offence.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Tts 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Hbr 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For [it is] a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
Truth is, we can recommend healthy food choices to people, but using the pulpit or word of God to form doctrines undermines the gospel that should be preached.
John 6:53-56
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. KJV
I suspect the issue is not whether K4C is willing to admit anything. The insight is found in knowing how the belief serves K4C.
If we understood this, we wouldn't have 1,000-post threads on many issues - like Sabbath - debating whether the Bible says "yes" or "no."
I do not believe that Satan created anything or was allowed to tamper... It is my belief that God created the dinosaurs...just as he created everything else...I don't believe Satan has power to create life. But there is one thing I've always wondered and that is, what was going on outside of the garden of Eden? The Bible tells us that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden and an angel with a flaming sword was place to guard the entrance so they couldn't get back in. I wonder what kind of world was existing outside of the garden?
Lev 11:43 Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.Crib...thanks for the verses, good to contemplate!
God gave the clean and the unclean meats to illustrate a spiritual lesson. Question is, do we see the spiritual nature of why God gave these lessons.
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I came to my conclusion through reading the Bible, not commentaries. If God calls something unclean it's not rocket science.
Is it rocket science if God declares all foods clean?
BFA
Did you read my original post?
There is a difference between Koinos and Akathartos. Our translations use the word, unclean for both, which is where the confusion comes. One is unclean due to the conscience and the other is unclean due a commandment of God.
again BFA, these types of discussions for me go back to one premise, just because someone said that "God said it" does not mean that he did indeed say it... Additionally to lift the dietary guidelines in Leviticus from their context and culture and attempt to apply those guidelines here and now I find more amusing every day.... We don't attempt to apply the dress code of that time, nor the worship guidelines, but when it comes to eating we want to make sure we are doing "God's will." I really don't understand it...I suppose my question is more of a philosophical one, and perhaps it is merely a question I am asking myself as I think out loud.
Does God have the authority to declare all foods clean irrespective of conscience or commandment?
BFA
to lift the dietary guidelines in Leviticus from their context and culture and attempt to apply those guidelines here and now I find more amusing every day.... We don't attempt to apply the dress code of that time, nor the worship guidelines, but when it comes to eating we want to make sure we are doing "God's will." I really don't understand it...
Lev 20:25 Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean.
Apparently God had declared it an abomination that pollutes the soul of the COI to eat of the animals He listed that they shall not eat. Leviticus 11 and other places. The one who eats of it would be classified as unclean. The penalty breaking any of those commandment was death.
Then there is the 'beast'...2 Timothy 3:2-7
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. KJV
So, in talking about eating the 'clean' and avoiding the 'unclean' ....the clean would be partaking of 'heavenly things' and the unclean is the partaking or 'earthly things'!Psalms 49:20
20 Man that is in honour, and understandeth not,
is like the beasts that perish. KJV
Yes I do... If you believe that God created lions, tigers, bears, sharks, snakes, then why would it be difficult to believe that he created dinosaurs? Lions, tigers, bears, kill humans all the time, what's the difference? As far as I can tell dinosaurs did roam the earth, since they are finding bones on every continent...Please do not misunderstand me. I believe God created everything.
However, do you think that God's will was to make a superfluous amount of very large and ferocious carnivorous reptiles that could and most likely would try to destroy His creation (us et al.)? If dinosaurs were part of God's plan, he would have allowed them to roam the earth.
Humans make computers, houses, mix breeds of animals, etc. This doesn't make us G-d, no matter how much we think it does, because EVERYTHING must be approved by G-d.
And, since CREATION is G-d's BODY, then nothing happens unless he allows it/makes it happen.
The creeping things and beast have similar characteristics to certain types of human behavior...
Then there is the 'beast'...
So, in talking about eating the 'clean' and avoiding the 'unclean' ....the clean would be partaking of 'heavenly things' and the unclean is the partaking or 'earthly things'!
LOL... and the same can be said of you my friend... thank you for the respectful exchange.....Ok. Then your mind is made up. Nothing I will say will resonate with you.
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