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Christians, set your brains free!

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andrewbee

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Last night while flipping through the channels, I saw a preacher from the Hillsongs church in Australia. He was saying this: "I've seen a lot of the people I pray for healing for die, but however many of them die, I'm not going to let it shake my belief in what the Bible says about healing".

I am not sure if he was preaching on a specific verse, but if he was, it was probably this one:

James 5:14-15: Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up.

I reacted to this with great puzzlement, because he was basically saying he was going to switch his brain off and ignore what was clearly happening: God was not answering every prayer for healing in the affirmative. This seems to be typical of the attitude of a lot of Christians: let's cling to what the Bible says in the face of all else. That will make us more spiritual. Let's not think about the obvious dissonance between some parts of the Bible and real life, because then our faith might crumble entirely.

It's as if thinking about things is deemed unspiritual, and you're only spiritual if you're a True Believer who exercises an almost blind faith. I'm sorry people, but if the Bible says God will always heal when you ask, and he doesn't always do it, you have a problem. What are you going to do, pretend it doesn't exist (the usual choice), or think about why that may be the case? (I am only using the healing thing as an example; there are countless others where the Bible and real life don't quite match up).

Let's see, what could the answer to this little conundrum be (still using healing as an example)? There are several possibilities:

a) The writer was a little over-zealous in his claims (possible; he was human after all)
b) The writer's experience was different from ours (maybe God worked more powerfully back then)
c) The writer was lying (unlikely; the book wouldn't have made it into the word of God in that case)
d) The people who pray for the sick today don't have enough faith (unlikely, because there are some amazing men and women of God around, but none of them can claim 100% success for healing)

We've excluded c and d, so the likely answer is a or b (or possibly something else I haven't thought of). B is unlikely, because God is the same "yesterday, today and forever". So, what if it's a? That means the writer of James (or wherever it talks about healing) was allowed to be human and fallible in his writing.

He is still communicating a broad truth (God loves to heal), but maybe being a little overzealous in his claim that God will always heal when asked. Still it's close enough to the truth to make it into the Word, and serves to inspire future generations to faith. So there it is, included in Scripture, handed down through the centuries and translated into modern English.

But, it has profound implications in how we Christians take and interact with the Word. Maybe we should also account for the humanity of the writers and the limitations of the translators. Maybe we shouldn't cling so absolutely to every word the Bible says. Maybe we should use it as food for thought, live by its broad principles (love God, be nice to people, trust Christ for salvation, help your brother who is in need), but not get hung up on every word and every detail.

Some may accuse me of questioning the Bible as the word of God. No, I'm not doing that. It is a monumental and awesome work, even from a purely literary standpoint. God's power, love for humanity, and purpose are clear. The main pillars of God's character are evident from beginning to end. But is it fallible? Sometimes, yes. Anyone with eyes, ears and a brain can tell that (provided they haven't switched their brain off). Should you therefore believe that God will heal someone if you pray (or even if the elders pray and anoint with oil)? You should believe that he MAY, based on the fact that he sometimes does and sometimes doesn't (an irrefutable fact). You should know that he loves you and and the person who needs healing dearly (also irrefutable and Biblical), and likes to give good gifts to his children.

Christians, use your eyes and ears, think about what's around you, watch the news, go to movies. Don't discount it when things happen that shouldn't, but think about why it may be. Let challenges to your world view become expansions of your world view. THINK about stuff, don't just blindly believe (but don't go to the other extreme of demanding proof for everything either, because you won't get it for everything in the Bible). Set your brains free. It is NOT unspiritual to acknowledge that something the Bible says might not be true, or completely true. Take challenges to your faith head-on, and revise your faith if necessary in order to stay true to yourself.
 

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I think you were watching the conference.

Funny how you mentioned that, I was heading to gymnastics in Homebush, for the first time on the train. Usually it's by bus.

And these people started talking about Jesus....I thought, thats cool. Then the woman sitting next to me was reading some diary, and I peaked in and it was all about Christianity.
And everyone started talking about it...luckly I had my Bible in my bag.

And I thought, hey this is suspecious, usually not many people ride on trains to homebush, esspecially when today is a day when all sport training is off.Plus they were all Christians around me.

Anyway I sneaked in, and Boom there was a massive stadium filled with Hill Song people.
But I left shortly after that, because I promised to turn up to Gymnastics.

However turning off the brains isn't too bad, I fully agree that we should tackle the worldly matters head on, but at times when you want to be closer to God. We need to meditate, thats when the switching off the brain comes in...in my opinion!
 
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Well, lets see...

If you go to a gospel rally and the preacher preaches a good sermon on salvation, and gives the altar call, what if 10 unsaved people there do not respond and only 5 do?

Does that mean that God doesnt really want everyone to be saved? Should we then stop telling everyone that God loves them and that he wants them saved?

Why not turn on our brains here and say, "Hey, obviously there something wrong here with the scriptures, God doesnt want everyone saved. Maybe Jesus didnt die for everyone."

BTW this is what hyper-Calvinism teaches.

We walk by faith in the Spirit, not by flesh with our brains.

The Word of God supercedes all personal experiences and testimonies, be they -ve or +ve. ie we dont believe in healing becos we see people get healed, we believe becos God says so in his Word. We don't evangelise becos we see souls saved, we do it becos God says to do it. :rolleyes:
 
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Andrew said:
The Word of God supercedes all personal experiences and testimonies, be they -ve or +ve. ie we dont believe in healing becos we see people get healed, we believe becos God says so in his Word.

If it says so in his word, why doesn't he always do it then? Either he is wrong (which he can't be if he's God), or our modern translations of his word are wrong (possible, because they came to us through a human conduit, not written on slabs of stone in heaven).

Either way ,to believe that something WILL happen when it clearly does not always, is a blind, unrealistic faith. To know that God loves us, and MAY heal us as we ask, but is sovereign and still God even if he does not, is a realistic faith, that includes reality as well as Scripture.
 
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ya know i dont know if it is really the person who is letting God heal through them that might be the problem. Ususally the person whom is being healed needs to have some of their own criteria met to be healed. Jesus also made reference to "thy faith" healing people. Do you think that some people simply do not accept that healing? I once attended a service at my church that had a visiting minister. Well this minister felt led to pray for healing for several of the people. These were long time things such as people in wheelchairs that hadnt walked since their youths, one was cancer, the others dealt with being blind. Now I noticed that a man who hadnt been able to walk for 25 years, was healed and I witnessed him jumping running and etc. The other people were healed as well, yet a mere week or so later all of these people were truly healed, yet this one man...well he suddenly could not walk again. Why anyone would gain a healing and later reject it is beyond me at this point but that appears to be what happened.
 
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andrewbee said:
If it says so in his word, why doesn't he always do it then? Either he is wrong (which he can't be if he's God), or our modern translations of his word are wrong (possible, because they came to us through a human conduit, not written on slabs of stone in heaven).

Either way ,to believe that something WILL happen when it clearly does not always, is a blind, unrealistic faith. To know that God loves us, and MAY heal us as we ask, but is sovereign and still God even if he does not, is a realistic faith, that includes reality as well as Scripture.

I understnd what you are trying to say and have asked myself this question to. But if your reasoning is correct, then you would also have to believe that God does not want all men to be saved. I have taken 2 non-Christian friends to church b4 (one many times) and each time the altar call was given, they did not want to respond, and it wasnt becos they were shy.

Now, do I then start to believe that God does not want everyone to be saved, and that when he said "He is not willing that any should perish" he didnt really mean what he said.

In the case of healing, we know that faith is always involved. Although we know it was God's power that healed those people in the NT, Jesus always attributed it to their faith. So in a case when a person is not healed, I sincerely believe that it has to do with faith. Either the person laying hands has not enough faith or even if he has, the person being prayed for does not.

Of cse, you might then argue that both had faith. Well, only God knows. If God's Word about healing is true, and I believe it is, then Let God be true and every man a liar.

So it boils down to lack of faith -- an answer which wld undoubtedly offend many.

There is also such thing as a time gap between receiving the answer and the healing manifesting in the natural realm. Usu people give up in between when they dont see immediate results. again, a question of faith.
 
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