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Featured Christians, asked if they believe ‘outdated parts of the Bible,’ denied foster application

Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by JCFantasy23, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Cis.jd

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    Christians have crossed the line with these issues, on your case i would agree. However, i'm also tired of how homosexuality is being advertised as if it is a race, when it's not.

    I do agree with your case by the way. I think the "conversion therapy" stuff is nonsense and should be legally checked into. I also think that christians have shown to be more sinful than some homosexuals just as to the links you've shown... however the world should also accept that not everybody accepts this as they would with races.

    I disagree with it, but i'm not going to throw slime at it. So for me, i tend to stay quiet -- pay attention to me -- go on the "it depends" philosophy -- while waiting for the day for Christ to clear everything up.

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  2. joymercy

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    how many kids are rotated through the foster cares system? many stories over time of being horrifically abused at the hands of foster parents, so I can see the cautiousness involved here.
     
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  3. dzheremi

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    Okay, what about a row of smilies? Is that a good defence?

    :doh::scratch::|:sigh:

    Besides, Muslims being poor, put upon arch-brown people wasn't an ad hominem. That part is true.
     
  4. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    It's not so much protecting homosexuality as it is protecting homosexuals (and other LGBT) from religious prejudice and discrimination solely based upon their sexual orientation and lifestyle. It's standing up for their civil rights as citizens and treating them as human beings with respect, dignity and kindness. It's standing up against how they are often treated with contempt and shunned simply because their sexual orientation goes against someone else's personal religious beliefs.
     
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  5. DamianWarS

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    If that means love your neighbour as you love yourself then yes. But I'm not saying roll over I'm saying the law is designed to be indiscriminate and if anyone said homosexuality is wrong they would be treated the same. It was wrong of the social worker to claim aspects of someone's faith is outdated, that is not their job and possible grounds for some sort of appeal (even though the end probably would be the same), fight why your religious rights trump a decision like this or why your rights have been violated but we accomplish nothing by making fun of the others.
     
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  6. Cis.jd

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    at the same time, i can't just trust articles either. How do i know if there was a specific tone of voice in the way the christian couple answered? Sorry, on face value it's wrong on the program but articles normally tell one side making it hard to make an honest judgement.
     
  7. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    That's very unscientific in my opinion. It would seem that scientists have located the homosexual gene, it's the Xq28 region of the X chromosome: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cross-cultural-evidence-for-the-genetics-of-homosexuality/

    If scientists are correct, then homosexuality is a mutation of that genome region and more of a disorder like cystic fibrosis or other mutations. It's a disease in other words.
     
  8. NBB

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    Christians are doing the homosexuals a favour by telling them that what they do is wrong and that they need to repent. That is not prejudice. Gays should not be put in authority positions in church, that is not discrimintation, don't try to make christians participate in their sins.
     
  9. Hazelelponi

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    No. What your doing is trying to excuse religious tests and painting people with a broad brush.

    "Christians" (so called) aren't the only ones who might abuse children. Abuse of children seems to happen when people don't claim a faith background too, and that even more often than with parents who are of faith.

    During the 2016 scare the children fest the far left went around the internet trying to convince young impressionable homosexuals that if Donald Trump won the presidency he would round homosexuals up and put them into concentration camps.

    Certainly most of us didn't know this was happening until after the election - when we had to be the ones to deal with emotionally traumatized homosexual youth certain that any second the sex police were coming to take them away.

    And so deal with it we did, my husband had to declare at work that nothing was going to happen and that if anyone did come for the homosexuals he would protect them with his life.

    That was what it took to calm them down and make them feel safe.. a promise truly meant.

    Now, the far left causes these fears, leaves us to pick up the pieces and then declares its all our fault they told lies to children, all in the name of hatred for Christianity and Christians.

    It's religious discrimination pure and simple, and without reason nor excuse. We dont judge books by their covers, nor do we excuse it being done.

    You might want to check actual statistics on how many Christians are found guilty of child abuse, verses those of other faith or non-faith groups.

    You can't control the populace through fear of the unknown when the truth is known, so of course they don't want well meaning Christians to foster needy children.
     
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  10. EpiscipalMe

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    Or it’s a feature - like brown hair or green eyes.

    Not all mutations are diseases.
     
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  11. Radagast

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    There can be no "homosexual gene," given the many identical twins where one is gay and the other isn't.
     
  12. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    The article was describing a genetic cause of same gender attraction. That does not mean that all homosexuals are created from this gene condition. Some may simply be taught that condition.
     
  13. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    Wow, that is optimistic. I'm not sure a biologist would agree with you, noting that male and female are the physical pairing of the species and only that pairing can allow for reproduction naturally and thus perpetuation of the species.
     
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  14. riesie

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    The Bible will never be outdated!
     
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  15. redleghunter

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    Speculation of a social worker without evidence is mind reading and discrimination based on perception.

    I guess the social worker could "ponder" the child being taken to gay pride parades and exposed to sexually charged displays. Such a social worker would end up in Trudeau's dungeon of tolerance and re-education camps.
     
  16. redleghunter

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    Then the records check should bring that up. Not asking "gotcha" Bible questions. It's a religious test.
     
  17. Hazelelponi

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    The greatest majority of Christians treat homosexuality like any other sin to be repented of, and that's only talked about with their own church and/or family members, and no one forces the faith on anyone.

    Socially and societally homosexuality is deviant from the norm so it's going to be treated as such but this is quite different than believers who believe homosexuality is a sin in God's economy. Theft is too and no one throws a fit when we say so...
     
  18. redleghunter

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    Amen. This was not just talk because your husband promised to sacrifice life and limb to protect his neighbor.

    Tim Keller was asked the question if Christian churches are doing a good job of being compassionate to their homosexual neighbors. He said he could not speak of the larger Christian church but could give some generalities.

    First he said we have churches which are faithful in pointing out God's Holiness and that homosexuality is a sin among many. Secondly, he said we have churches faithful to being 'neighbors' to all including homosexuals. He said one or the other leans a particular way and that is what needs to be addressed. He said we can uphold the Holiness of God's standards and still be good neighbors. In fact he said we are commanded and exhorted to do so.


    He did surprise the audience when he said homosexuality will not 'get you' to hell just as being heterosexual won't 'get you' to heaven. Very thought provoking. He concluded it is the rejection of Christ and disobedience which ends up condemning us. It is being in Christ and serving Him as Lord and Savior which ushers us in the Kingdom. He concluded by saying we each have to answer the question Christ posed to His disciples "Who do you say that I am?"
     
  19. miamited

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    Hi dzheremi,

    Unfortunately, that's what our courts have created. We have become a people, and I imagine that it's likely true in Canada also, that when something bad happens to someone, there's always someone to blame for it. When a crazed gunman goes on some killing spree, it isn't just that he was deluded and deranged in his thinking and reasoning, but it's the gun shop's fault for selling him the firearm. Or it's the government's fault because they didn't flag him properly 20 years earlier when he threw a banana peel on the sidewalk. So today, we play a lot of 'what if's' in order to think that we're safeguarding ourselves against possible future results.

    Of course, this idea of living as a believer in the one true God and His Son, Jesus, has always been a divider of people. Even in the nation where it all started, Israel, Jesus divided the people. He caused such a division that the Jews actually took action to try and rid themselves of those who held to belief in him. Paul's story starts with him going about and destroying the homes and putting to death, those who proclaimed faith in this man, Jesus. I'm sure Paul wasn't the only such person to be given such a task, but he does seem to be the only one that God's word is interested in. Living in Israel in those days may have been much like living in Germany during the holocaust. Where your very neighbors would report on such activities.

    So, we certainly should not be surprised that such a thing as this is happening in the world. Fortunately, or not, we have found more peaceable ways to appeal such thinking and treatment in most nations. Read the book! Jesus has already won! There will come a day when God will settle the score! In the meantime, there are resources for these people to address their grievance.

    God bless,
    In Christ, ted
     
  20. dzheremi

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    I read the article, and it seemed that Dr. Soh was describing a gene which correlates to higher levels of separation anxiety which have been found among homosexuals in three different disparate populations -- not claiming that said correlation is a genetic cause of homosexuality.

    A fine distinction, perhaps, but as they say, correlation does not equal causation. I would be very surprised if any article would come out claiming homosexuality to be genetic in that way, as that would make it diagnosable (rather than just predictable) via genetic testing, which would validate the "born this way" idea, but at the cost of essentially making it curable, which in effect is admitting that it is a kind of disease, and then all the gay pride stuff would be akin to having a "Lupus Pride Month" or "Irritable Bowl Syndrome Pride Parade" or something...those would be understandably much less popular and much less filled with social capital than the current gay pride stuff.
     
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