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Featured Christians, asked if they believe ‘outdated parts of the Bible,’ denied foster application

Discussion in 'Current News & Events' started by JCFantasy23, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. redleghunter

    redleghunter Thank You Jesus! Supporter

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    Of course. Homosexuals are our neighbors. There are those who do forget that.

    Having Biblical beliefs of what is sin is not hate. It’s actually being obedient to God. Christians can be good neighbors without having to accept sin in their churches.
     
  2. Shiloh Raven

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    And the authorities should be concerned with that and intervene immediately, IMHO.
     
  3. redleghunter

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    The authorities basically gave a religious test. Which I am assuming is ok to do in Canada but not the US.

    Imagine if a gay couple were asked to provide bloodwork proving they were not HIV positive.
     
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  4. joymercy

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    I have heard about children bullied and unloved to the point of suicide so I see your point as valid
     
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  5. miamited

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    Hi RLH,

    Except that this issue isn't about accepting/not accepting sin in our fellowships. This is about the state feeling that a parent, at least one that they approve of, shouldn't hold some christian value beliefs. It seems like an easy win if the state says it's ok to be a 'christian', but you can't teach your children, or those set in your care as your children, your personal values, if they adhere to some 'old fashioned' understanding that the state feels is somehow outdated. God's word never goes out of date, but those who don't know God, don't understand all there is to understand about the Scriptures.

    I mean, for me, just the question of whether or not the parents believe in 'some outdated parts of the bible' concludes that the person asking the question is not a believer. However, as you mention, there are fellowships and individuals within fellowships who do believe that a lot of the historical records of the Scriptures are just myths. I mean there are people here on these boards that openly admit to that understanding of the Scriptures. How in the world can we be surprised that there are those outside of the fellowship of believers who also believe such a thing?

    God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in six days, is becoming a 'questionable' belief in a lot of fellowships and among a lot of believers. It then becomes a matter of picking and choosing what is true and what is hyperbole or myth. That God flooded the whole of the earth is another historical account we find in the Scriptures that has come under serious question in these the latter days.

    God bless,
    In Christ, ted
     
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  6. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    I do wonder if Canada would do this with a Muslim couple wanting to adopt a child.
     
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  7. redleghunter

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  8. dzheremi

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    This is essentially thought crime, then: the parents (or perspective parents) haven't actually done anything, but the state thinks they might based on the worker's evaluation of their religion (not their behavior), and that's enough to deny them the right to be parents. Because apparently the Canadian state is almighty God and can see into the hearts of men and judge accordingly.

    Why not? Apparently anything goes in the name of enforcing Canadian moral law.
     
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  9. dzheremi

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    Hahahahaha.

    Yeah, they will...I'm sure that'll happen right after authorities in the U.S. come down hard on Muslim-run bakeries that refuse to bake cakes for gay weddings, sex reassignment surgery celebrations, and non-binary gender reveal parties. :D
     
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  10. Invalidusername

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    It always blows my mind at how people go such great lengths in order to "support" and "protect" homosexuality.
     
  11. Shiloh Raven

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  12. redleghunter

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    You mean I’d they supported all those terrible commands to throw homosexuals off buildings.

    I’m thinking no they would not.
     
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  14. Invalidusername

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    Think about it this way: Would you prefer someone be "traumatized" and then repent from their homosexuality or burn forever in hell?

    I also have never ever seen a Christian treat a homosexual poorly. Maybe I go to good churches.
     
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  15. DamianWarS

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    to say that a religious belief is outdated by a government body is an implicit violation of rights to freedom of religion. It is one thing to say beliefs do not fit government policies but it is another thing to accuse that aspects of faith are outdated. Those are 2 different things and although the end may be the same (rejection) the government should not comment on what aspects of someone's faith is considered moral or immoral or sinful or righteous, those are for the said religious bodies to define not the government.

    I understand that this means the other faith groups would have the same rights but the principal still stands. government bodies that allow freedom of religion should not impose what people should believe by fiat which is a violation of the said freedom. The social worker should have said that the agency recognizes freedom of religion but those values still need to be weighed out with the policies of the agency (perhaps then making it clear what the conflicting policies may be and affirming their position on it)

    the subsequent judgment may still be the same which would be a rejection but it's not the job of a social working to comment on what aspects of people's faith they should value and what aspects of their faith they should sweep under the rug.
     
  16. DamianWarS

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    Muslims don't accept homosexuality either and they would be equally discriminated against if they were being sincere with their beliefs (aka they didn't lie in the interview)
     
  17. dzheremi

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    Nope. All Muslims are poor, put upon arch-brown people (even the white ones). If such a thing ever even seemed like it might happen, Justin Trudeau would use his magical Canadian government mind-reading powers to bust into the house mid-interview, Kool Aid Man-style, before the interviewer could ask them anything about their religious beliefs and how they might impact the raising of the child, and fire the interviewer on the spot and replace them with someone sympathetic to Islam and the wonderful diversity it brings to Western societies (diversity is Canada's strength, you know), thereby saving everyone from ever having to learn the truth about Islam ever.
     
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  18. dzheremi

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    Hahaha. I like how that ^ nonsense about Justin Trudeau being a Spiderman/Kool Aid Man hybrid who uses his magic superhero powers to keep the truth about Islam from getting out got an "Agree" rating.

    Yes...yes, that will happen! :oldthumbsup:
     
  19. Paidiske

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    Neither. It was me pondering, "Why would the state be concerned about this belief set, held by people temporarily caring for vulnerable children?"

    In other words, it was my speculation that this would be one possible cause for concern, given the vulnerability of foster children. Now, if that were the cause for concern, then it was clumsily assessed, at best; I'm not saying the agency got it right. But I can see why there might be something there which ought to be assessed.
     
  20. DamianWarS

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    yet... that's not actually true. If a Muslim says the wrong things in an interview they will be rejected the same way. I not pro Justin Trudeau but ad hominems are a poor defence.
     
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