Christian tactic for losing debates with atheists like Bill Maher

[Phil 1:21]

Let me know when Bill Mahr wants to debate apologetics with Ravi Zacharias.

 

[BobRyan]

Let me know when Bill Mahr wants to debate apologetics with Ravi Zacharias.

Certainly it is true that there are Christian apologists that would not simply dump Christianity into a basket of "deplorables" as their "solution" while trying to curry favor with atheists.

 

[Job 33:6]

The YouTube title is horribly mistitled.

Let's examine the strategy that the Christian in this video used to lose the debate.

1. Argue that key portions of the Bible are complete nonsense.
2. Argue against Maher's claim that the Bible itself says it is all true.
3. Join with Maher in demeaning Christians that think the Bible is actually true even in its key statements about who God says He is and what God says He did.
4. Have no answer at all for why God allowed one single person to be killed by an Israelite much less whole towns or cultures other than "Atheist countries also do bad stuff".


There is of course "another view" of this fiasco - and this is contained in a post on this page that follows at some point. And that view is this --



(I just wanted to give a short snip from the "other side" of this ... the full details are in the posts that follow mine).

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ONE of the few things the Christian debater got right was that Maher's claim that no atheist nation has committed atrocities or crimes against humanity - is total nonsense for anyone who was alive during the 20th century and knew anything about Cuba or Russia or Communist China etc.

Your thoughts?

Bob

Regarding the discussion about religion being a motivator of violence. People are naturally violent beings. Our world is plagued with sin, pain, ignorance, limited resources. We live in a dog eat dog world. It is a harsh world, and we, mankind, are harsh in response. This is independent of religion, its just the law of the land. People are by our nature, inevitably violent, religious or not.

 

[BobRyan]

Regarding the discussion about religion being a motivator of violence. People are naturally violent beings. Our world is plagued with sin, pain, ignorance, limited resources. We live in a dog eat dog world. It is a harsh world, and we, mankind, are harsh in response. This is independent of religion, its just the law of the land. People are by our nature, inevitably violent, religious or not.

Atheists have a "story" they like to tell that is of the form "no atheist nation like Russia, China, Cuba ... has ever committed crimes against humanity. For such crime as THAT you will need religion particularly the Christian religion as exampled by the Catholic church in the dark ages (with its extermination of heretics decrees in Lateran IV)".

OR they could point to the Catholic "Doctrine of Discovery" as a good example of crimes against humanity.

So while it is true there are horrific examples of this in certain Christian denominations - it is not true that the atheist nation experiment is not full of crimes against humanity.

And of course Maher likes to point out cases where God tells Israel to go to war with some neighboring culture or to wipe out some city.