Christian Right on wrong side

[ZACTAK]

The political beliefs that I have today go along with the republican party. I won't go into my beliefs, here...but my political opinions are for the most part not based off of my Christian beliefs. I like to seperate my political beliefs from my religious beliefs.

Before I accepted Christ I was pro-life, among many other things. Many of my choices are because of the morals I have been taught or I have developed. But because I am a republican does not mean that I am wrong, just like because you are democrat does not mean that you are wrong, it is a matter of differing opinions. You claim the democratic party is more for charity, which they tend to be more for the poor people...but how can you say that God would be a democrat (I am not saying He is republican either) because you might have some morals found in the Bible, but what about the morals the democrats possess that God would say is a sin? You have to base it off of all the liberal views to make that claim, and even then we would not know because we don't know how God would react in each scenario, we don't know how He thinks, and so being a republican or democrat is not a Christian issue, it is the issue of preferences.

 

[Glaz]

Tell ya what Christian Republicans. Let's do a what-if:

If the Republicans abandoned all Christian morality stuff from their platform today (pro-choice, pro-gay marriage), would you still be Republican? (Let's say that there is no third party option).

Yep.

 

[Jarfice]

Well, I happen to be pro-life, but voting Republican would not change abortion in this country. That's why no one in the senate or house has suggested a bill to change it. If they did that, the Republican party would have no leg to stand on with millions of voters who vote for Republicans soley because of the Abortion issue.

The Gay marriage issue is a joke. It offends me as a marriage-loving Christian that GWB can get up and push for something called "Defense of Marriage," when what he is defending is a HIDEOUS civil institution that has caused divorce to become accepted by mainstream protestants and Evangelical Christians. There should be no civil marriage for anyone, straight OR gay. Marriage is a religious issue, and if you want to get married in the "Church of Candied Yams," which happens to marry gay couples, that's up to you. My Catholic church doesn't have to recognize it, and it won't, even if you're a straight couple.

As for the charity issue;

We do not live in a Theocracy. Political parties are not a part of Christ's church.

We can come together as a nation to help those in extraordinarily bad circumstances. But ultimately private charity works better and more efficiently than government checks.

That's just plain not true. Aside from the fact that most Americans don't even tithe anymore, the sad fact remains that non-government charities geared at helping the poor can only offer minimal assitance to less than 10% of the populationthat exists below the poverty line. Only the government is actually in a position to do something about it, and welfare is not an anti-poverty measure, anyway. It's only an anti-starvation measure. without it, peopl would literally be starving to death. Does anyone here remember what things were like under President Hoover? The New Deal is the only reason we don't have starving citizens in the streets today. "Redistribution of Wealth" is just another meaningless term designed by the right to mischaracterize the issue. More than half of all federal tax money goes toward keeping the most powerful military on the plant, which is utterly unnecessary. Even under Clinton, who is lambasted by Conservatives for "cutting" our defense budget, our navy was bigger than the next 26 navies combined.

And speaking of the military, would Jesus spend twelve years bombing water treatment plants in Iraq and then sanction them from receiving antibiotics? For years, an Iraqi child under five was dying from diseases like dysentery and cholera every three minutes, because we wouldn't let them have anti-biotics like cipro, keflex, and ampicillin. Because of overuse, penicillin is no longer able to treat most bacterial infections, so the Iraqi hospitals had NO protection against infection, which ran rampant due to a lack of clean drinking water, which could be attributed DIRECTLY to operations Northern Watch and Desert Fox, US long-range bombing campaigns.

 

[utdbear]

utdbear,
first of all i would just like to state that my inspiration for this post was from an evengelical preacher who used the quote "faith without works is dead" in his argument. im sorry that was the only quote i remember him using. and second of all i dont hate you, i was trying to get insight into the christian right mind-set, there were plenty people who agreed or disagreed with had imput that helped me, however you just went off on an emotional tangent, i want to here your personsal reasoning for your views, i gave a fair account of mine

Nor do I hate you. However, you assumed because an evangelical Christian preacher said this that he must represent the dreaded 'Religious Right'. Its a term used out of convenience, just like if I grouped all non-believers into a group and called them 'left-wing heathens' simply because I do not share their views. I saw your OP as an attack on the beliefs of Republican Christians, and my vision didn't fail me as the title of your thread states, which eliminates that whole 'I gave a fair account of my views' schpeel. If you had wanted to know what we thought, you don't name threads 'Religious Right on wrong side', you title the post with a little more class, and maybe even put a question mark in the post. You also need not worry about me wasting my emotion on this board, as none was used in my post above. Thanks for stoppin by, enjoy the board.

 

[jameseb]

CF Rule No. 2.7

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