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Mase brought out a few tracks on "Welcome Back" that have Christian lyrics:

"And for all the nights and all the fights
That I had for all this money over all these dice
All my cars and homes and all my ice
If I could do it all again, I'd do it all for Christ"

"Yeah, you know theres nothin' in this world that could seperate me
From what I believe, from what i've achieved
All of this is because of him and i'm tellin' you now,
As much as y'all dont wanna hear this
I could do nothin' of myself, its all through him
It's all through him... so all around the world
You don't even know success until u know him.. and him.. is Jesus"


"I watch you as you turn and turn
And burn and burn, from all ur decisions
You could be a Christian, rich somewhere
But you ain’t chose to listen, so get somewhere"

All in all, the Christian theme is throughout the CD.

There is almost no swearing. There is no hatred towards women (Mase makes it clear on this album that he doesn't get drunk, do drugs, sleep around: "You don't have to take the, clothes off, to have a good time..." ")

Also, check out Kanye West's "Jesus Walks". For the record, 50 Cent spits: "Lord forgive me, for i've sinned, over and over again, just to stay on top...I recall memories, filled with sin, over and over again..." & "Lord I don't cry no more, don't look to the sky no more, have mercy on me, have mercy on my soul, somewhere my heart turned cold, have mercy on many men..."

I could go through the history of rap and pull out all the Christian lyrics in there, but it's not worth it. Pure and simple, you haters are uneducated.

Now onto comments about Mase:

You know Mase? clearly, that man couldn't even do that if he tried. and he clearly has tried.

Mase has not tried to spit scripture verbatim, as per your description. Why would he? Mase is not running from one Christian event to another, trying to cash in on the gospel. Mase is a Christian rapper. He doesn't make Christian raps. What the Cross Movement and what Mase is trying to achieve are different things and to compare them is immature.
 
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Middlemoor said:
Also, check out Kanye West's "Jesus Walks". For the record, 50 Cent spits: "Lord forgive me, for i've sinned, over and over again, just to stay on top...I recall memories, filled with sin, over and over again..." & "Lord I don't cry no more, don't look to the sky no more, have mercy on me, have mercy on my soul, somewhere my heart turned cold, have mercy on many men..."
I, myself doubt 50 Cent's willingness to actually turn away. He seems to enjoy pushing his "ganster" image. Just like DMX would say "Father forgive me" but then not live up to what he said at all.

How can they have a song like that and then a song about how they get hoes and premarital sex? It doesn't vibe with me man.
 
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Middlemoor said:
mase.jpg


Mase brought out a few tracks on "Welcome Back" that have Christian lyrics:

"And for all the nights and all the fights
That I had for all this money over all these dice
All my cars and homes and all my ice
If I could do it all again, I'd do it all for Christ"

"Yeah, you know theres nothin' in this world that could seperate me
From what I believe, from what i've achieved
All of this is because of him and i'm tellin' you now,
As much as y'all dont wanna hear this
I could do nothin' of myself, its all through him
It's all through him... so all around the world
You don't even know success until u know him.. and him.. is Jesus"


"I watch you as you turn and turn
And burn and burn, from all ur decisions
You could be a Christian, rich somewhere
But you ain’t chose to listen, so get somewhere"

All in all, the Christian theme is throughout the CD.

There is almost no swearing. There is no hatred towards women (Mase makes it clear on this album that he doesn't get drunk, do drugs, sleep around: "You don't have to take the, clothes off, to have a good time..." ")

Also, check out Kanye West's "Jesus Walks". For the record, 50 Cent spits: "Lord forgive me, for i've sinned, over and over again, just to stay on top...I recall memories, filled with sin, over and over again..." & "Lord I don't cry no more, don't look to the sky no more, have mercy on me, have mercy on my soul, somewhere my heart turned cold, have mercy on many men..."

I could go through the history of rap and pull out all the Christian lyrics in there, but it's not worth it. Pure and simple, you haters are uneducated.

Now onto comments about Mase:



Mase has not tried to spit scripture verbatim, as per your description. Why would he? Mase is not running from one Christian event to another, trying to cash in on the gospel. Mase is a Christian rapper. He doesn't make Christian raps. What the Cross Movement and what Mase is trying to achieve are different things and to compare them is immature.

Im listening to the Mase Album you speak of but i cant find the lyrics or the song ware you quoted thoes lyrics from. Its not a bad album...quite clean really.

here are a few quotes from the kanye West album that song "Jesus Walks"

from the song Slow Jam--
"[Kanye West]
I told her to drive over in your new whip/
Bring some friends you cool with/
Imma bring da cool whip/
Then I want you to strip/
See you is my new chick/
So we get our grind on/
She be grabbin, callin me Biggie like Shyne home/
Man I swear she fine homes/
Why she always lying though/
Tellin me them diamonds/
When she know they rhinestones/
She got a light skinned friend look like Michael"

Chorus from the song Get Em Hight
--"N-now, th-th-through ya m*****f***** hands
GET EM HIGH
All the girls pass the weed to ya m*****f*****man
GET EM HIGH
Now I ain't never tell you to put down ya hands
KEEP EM HIGH
And if ya losin yo high than smoke again
KEEP EM HIGH"

:doh:

then he has this little diddy

Some glad morning when this life is over,
I'll fly away.
To a home on God's celestial shore,
I'll fly away.

I'll fly away, O Glory,
I'll fly away.
When I die, Hallelujah, bye and bye,
I'll fly away.

When the shadows of this life have flown,
I'll fly away.
Like a bird thrown, driven by the storm,
I'll fly away.

I'll fly away, O Glory,
I'll fly away.
When I die, Hallelujah, bye and bye,
I'll fly away.

Just a few more weary days and then,
I'll fly away.
To a land where joy shall never end,
I'll fly away.

I'll fly away, O Glory,
I'll fly away.
When I die, Hallelujah, bye and bye,
I'll fly away.

:scratch:

:sigh: the cd is filled with other....songs if you call them that that sure don't glorify God but his song Jesus walks...sounds good
 
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Im all about christian rap but Kanye West just sickens me. I know it probably makes sense to him, get down in the gutter so you can reach people in the gutter, but thats not how it works. Your supposed to lead by example and reflect Christ to others. I think if the guy sat down and actually read the gospels he might get a smack in the face and realize he is giving christianity a bad name by his actions.
 
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