Christian preaching...

CShephard53 · Oct 20, 2009

This is mainly for the unbelievers in this forum. I haven't posted in quite some time because I've seen a lot of people on this board who start threads on the same issues over and over, saying the same things, and claim they are doing what God wants them to do... My question is, is it moral to continually harp on the same things over and over again with the same people and claim to be doing a good thing? How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

Zebra1552 · Oct 20, 2009

That's a mighty fine question. Pity I'm not an 'unbeliever', so I can't accurately answer that.

BlackSabb · Oct 20, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

Well I'm not an unbeliever but I'll reply anyway. Is this a serious question? This is after all "Christian Forums" on an "ethics and morality" section. It's a no brainer. Of course you're going to get Christians preaching-it's totally appropriate.

Unlike the 101 threads on the tired old topic of homosexuality. Now that is unethical.

Zebra1552 · Oct 20, 2009

BlackSabb said:
Unlike the 101 threads on the tired old topic of homosexuality. Now that is unethical.

I think that's what he's talking about...

BlackSabb · Oct 20, 2009

Godschild87 said:
I think that's what he's talking about...

That wasn't my take on the OP. He seemed to be referring to general preaching on various Christian principles-not just homosexuality. He did say "people who start threads on the same issues"-Plural.

CShephard53 · Oct 20, 2009

BlackSabb said:
Well I'm not an unbeliever but I'll reply anyway. Is this a serious question? This is after all "Christian Forums" on an "ethics and morality" section. It's a no brainer. Of course you're going to get Christians preaching-it's totally appropriate.

Unlike the 101 threads on the tired old topic of homosexuality. Now that is unethical.

Yes, it's a serious question. In both Christian Philosophy and ethics and Ethics and Morality, homosexuality keeps coming up, and Christians keep preaching at people rather than engaging in civil, loving, listening discourse. Why is this, and is it helpful to the Christian cause? I was so upset with the homosexuality forum closing and it spilling over into Christian Philosophy and Ethics that I've stopped posting until now.

Zebra1552 · Oct 20, 2009

BlackSabb said:
That wasn't my take on the OP. He seemed to be referring to general preaching on various Christian principles-not just homosexuality. He did say "people who start threads on the same issues"-Plural.

He also seemed to be talking about the same issue over and over.

Zebra1552 · Oct 20, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
Yes, it's a serious question. In both Christian Philosophy and ethics and Ethics and Morality, homosexuality keeps coming up, and Christians keep preaching at people rather than engaging in civil, loving, listening discourse. Why is this, and is it helpful to the Christian cause? I was so upset with the homosexuality forum closing and it spilling over into Christian Philosophy and Ethics that I've stopped posting until now.

Um... whoops. There you go, I guess...

CShephard53 · Oct 20, 2009

Godschild87 said:
Um... whoops. There you go, I guess...

No problem.

BlackSabb · Oct 20, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
Yes, it's a serious question. In both Christian Philosophy and ethics and Ethics and Morality, homosexuality keeps coming up, and Christians keep preaching at people rather than engaging in civil, loving, listening discourse. Why is this, and is it helpful to the Christian cause? I was so upset with the homosexuality forum closing and it spilling over into Christian Philosophy and Ethics that I've stopped posting until now.

I've been asking for ages for a separate homosexual subforum. But to answer your question, how many ways can a Christian answer this question? There are only so many ways and you end up going in a cyclical cycle answering the question.

You can answer by stating what the Bible says.
You can answer by stating historical aspects.
You can answer by stating the obvious in male and female design.
You can answer by the function of families in society.

And that's about it. Unless you dream up something creatively new. Like arguing against homosexuality based on aliens or something. So no, it's not unethical for Christians to "preach" against homosexuality becuase:

1. It's a Christian forum.
2. It's ethics and morality-a suitable place
3. There's only a limited number of ways you can say "no" to something.
4. It's not the fault of Christians who "constantly preach" against homosexuality when others keep posting threads on this tired subject.

CShephard53 · Oct 20, 2009

BlackSabb said:
I've been asking for ages for a separate homosexual subforum. But to answer your question, how many ways can a Christian answer this question? There are only so many ways and you end up going in a cyclical cycle answering the question.

You can answer by stating what the Bible says.
You can answer by stating historical aspects.
You can answer by stating the obvious in male and female design.
You can answer by the function of families in society.

And that's about it. Unless you dream up something creatively new. Like arguing against homosexuality based on aliens or something. So no, it's not unethical for Christians to "preach" against homosexuality becuase:

1. It's a Christian forum.
2. It's ethics and morality-a suitable place
3. There's only a limited number of ways you can say "no" to something.
4. It's not the fault of Christians who "constantly preach" against homosexuality when others keep posting threads on this tired subject.

I notice that the current 'hot' homosexuality thread, no pun intended, was started by a Christian. The next 2 also were. How can you say that they are constantly preaching against it when they are the ones starting the threads? I'm quite sure that most regulars on this forum know full well that Christians view it as a sin, so why all the threads?

BlackSabb · Oct 20, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
I notice that the current 'hot' homosexuality thread, no pun intended, was started by a Christian. The next 2 also were. How can you say that they are constantly preaching against it when they are the ones starting the threads? I'm quite sure that most regulars on this forum know full well that Christians view it as a sin, so why all the threads?

I don't know, you'd have to ask them. I'm only answering the question in the OP.

jayem · Oct 21, 2009

As a non-believer, I don't mind Christians posting their opinions about homosexuality. If they honestly believe it's sinful, then they have every right to express that. It does get tiresome since it's so repetitious, but that's not a big deal to me. I might skim over it, and if I've heard it all before, I'll pass on to something else. It's obvious to me--from the non-Christian perspective--that Christianity inherited an aversion to homosexuality from OT Judaism through Paul. I don't think Jesus ever mentioned it specifically. But Paul was a strictly observant, legalistic Jew--a Pharisee. And homo-aversion is doctrinal in the type of Christianity which espouses Biblical literalism and that believes Paul's epistles are the inspired word of God. But there are other kinds of Christianity that aren't so Biblio-centric, and believe that the sanctions against homosexuality are culture-specific legalisms. Some groups of Quakers and Episcopalians are examples. I'd like to read more of the ideas of these Christians for balance.

moonkitty · Oct 21, 2009

As a non-believer I don't see repeting the same info over and over as immoral or unethical. Boring, and predicitable, but hardly immoral. I just sort of tune it out after a while.

Aianna · Oct 21, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
My question is, is it moral to continually harp on the same things over and over again with the same people and claim to be doing a good thing? How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

On a forum such as this it's not really immoral to keep repeating your beliefs. They can make topics expressing them even if their beliefs are wrong and the sheer amount of threads is annoying. The main problem I have with the number of homosexuality threads is how a lot of them are like "I once knew homosexuals who cheated on each other so I think all homosexuals don't really love each other" or some such nonsense because that's not even a serious conversation; that just wastes bandwidth.

As far as being "Christlike" goes, it's probably not. Humility is one of the major values I'd expect to see in a Christlike individual and creating a billion threads about how homosexuality is wrong doesn't do a good job of showing humility.

Zebra1552 · Oct 21, 2009

Aianna said:
As far as being "Christlike" goes, it's probably not. Humility is one of the major values I'd expect to see in a Christlike individual and creating a billion threads about how homosexuality is wrong doesn't do a good job of showing humility.

Interesting you should say that...

ToddNotTodd · Oct 21, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
This is mainly for the unbelievers in this forum. I haven't posted in quite some time because I've seen a lot of people on this board who start threads on the same issues over and over, saying the same things, and claim they are doing what God wants them to do... My question is, is it moral to continually harp on the same things over and over again with the same people and claim to be doing a good thing? How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

It's not unethical to start multiple threads on a message board. People aren't forced to view them.

It is, however, unethical to present evidence in a thread that you know to be untrue. For example, if I refer to a study that states that all homosexuals eat babies, and later I'm presented with facts that show that the study was fabricated, it would be unethical of me to keep referring to that study in later threads as if it were true. I tend to see that quite a bit.

PhilosophicalBluster · Oct 21, 2009

Immoral? No.
Annoying? Yes.

quatona · Oct 21, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
This is mainly for the unbelievers in this forum. I haven't posted in quite some time because I've seen a lot of people on this board who start threads on the same issues over and over, saying the same things, and claim they are doing what God wants them to do... My question is, is it moral to continually harp on the same things over and over again with the same people and claim to be doing a good thing? How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

Is it immoral/unethical? No, I don´t think so.
Is it "Christlike"? I dont know and I don´t care. "Christlike" is not a significant category for me as a non-Christian.

I think it´s counterproductive (if assuming that their goal is to convince others - which very well may be an erroneous assumption on my part).

Zaac · Oct 21, 2009

jawsmetroid said:
This is mainly for the unbelievers in this forum. I haven't posted in quite some time because I've seen a lot of people on this board who start threads on the same issues over and over, saying the same things, and claim they are doing what God wants them to do... My question is, is it moral to continually harp on the same things over and over again with the same people and claim to be doing a good thing? How do you unbelievers feel about the Christian preaching in the area of ethics and morality, do you think it's ethical or Christlike?

Isn't it kinda silly to ask folks who haven't trusted in Christ whether something is Christlike?

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