Christian Petition Against Donald Trump

[public hermit]

Be nice if we/they didn't put us all in one pile. There are more believer out there that are against this petition.

I think that's the point. It's an opportunity to show some followers of Christ don't support that kind of leadership.

 

[hislegacy]

Perhaps not ... but Trump is the only problem so far which has indicated an intention to contest the US Presidency.

OB

Biden said if Trump runs, so will he - so that is another problem - and a bigger one than Trump.

Is this the secret to whether Joe Biden runs again or not? | CNN Politics

If you listen carefully to what Joe Biden says about 2024, you start to hear the inklings of what might make up his mind.

www.cnn.com

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Then it's up to them to find a candidate they can get behind and cast their ballots accordingly. That would do far more and send a stronger message than this silly petition.

It's also up to other Christians to not vote for Trump. Since he should have never been a thought, when it comes to running America.

 

[HARK!]

Biden said if Trump runs, so will he - so that is another problem - and a bigger one than Trump.

Is this the secret to whether Joe Biden runs again or not? | CNN Politics

If you listen carefully to what Joe Biden says about 2024, you start to hear the inklings of what might make up his mind.

www.cnn.com

The toilet factor and Biden’s poll numbers

Well, at least “the sewer” or “the kitchen sink” did not come up. “Biden’s approval rating is still in the toilet,” notes the lead headline in Election Central, a political news site which has showcased some telling numbers from a new Quinnipiac University poll.

www.washingtontimes.com

It would be interesting to see how Trump's numbers compare to Biden's.

 

[Ophiolite]

In other words, this is all about a bunch of empty virtue signaling that's not going to do anything but makes the people who sign the petition look good and feel good about themselves. I got it.

Is there not value in groups and individuals publicly expressing their views in a quiet manner, when these views are of great importance to their world view, their beliefs, their faith, their ethics? You seem comfortable publicly expressing your views on their behaviour, yet seem dismissive and disrespecetful of their decision to exercise a similar right. I don't get it. Perhaps you would clarify your position and your reasoning.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I wonder what values these particular Christians believe they share with Biden or any other politician of note. I could just as easily say Biden does not share my values and therefore will never have my vote, but I won't because I don't know who Biden might run against that might be even more despicable than he is. I can say I will never vote for him, but I can't say that he won't get my vote as a vote against someone whose vision of where the country should go I find even more harmful than his, As unlikely as that might be.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

they'd probably need at least 1 million signatures from confirmed US citizens for any politician to care.

 

[chevyontheriver]

It's also up to other Christians to not vote for Trump. Since he should have never been a thought, when it comes to running America.

I have not voted for Trump yet. But with abysmal choices put forward by the Democrats it's very hard not to. Just sayin'.

 

[chevyontheriver]

People can protest and sign petitions all they want, but it's his campaign and he will decide when it ends, not a bunch of random people who use the internet.

If I were convinced that the organization doing the petition drive, Faithful America, was actually faithful then I would consider it. But if it is just the Democratic party at prayer there is no way I'm adding my name to their effort.

I have never voted for Trump. I quit the Republican party over Trump. I am not going to vote for Trump. That said I will not promote the Democratic Party. Not for a moment. Convince me, anybody, that Faithful America isn't functioning as an arm of the Democratic Party.

 

[RoBo1988]

"Before becoming independent in 2018, Faithful America was a creation of the National Council of Churches and then was a part of the Citizen Engagement Lab, which has been funded by George Soros."
Here's the rest of the article from 2020

Is 'Faithful America' the Voice of Christians? Then Why Do They Keep Trying to Force Christians Off the Air?

The group 'Faithful America' claims to have "Fought Hobby Lobby," "Convinced Google to Drop World Vision," and got MSNBC to "drop Family Research Council" as a guest on its news shows. "Faithful America" is now quoted by the media as the voice of American Christians, even while it protests...

www1.cbn.com

Sounds like another "Red Letter Christians" group.

 

[Pommer]

"Before becoming independent in 2018, Faithful America was a creation of the National Council of Churches and then was a part of the Citizen Engagement Lab, which has been funded by George Soros."
Here's the rest of the article from 2020

Is 'Faithful America' the Voice of Christians? Then Why Do They Keep Trying to Force Christians Off the Air?

The group 'Faithful America' claims to have "Fought Hobby Lobby," "Convinced Google to Drop World Vision," and got MSNBC to "drop Family Research Council" as a guest on its news shows. "Faithful America" is now quoted by the media as the voice of American Christians, even while it protests...

www1.cbn.com

Sounds like another "Red Letter Christians" group.

Which is?

 

[RoBo1988]

Which is?

"Red Letter Christians are a group of liberal Christians whose desire is to counter the political influence of conservative Christians. In the past thirty years, the voice of evangelical Christianity has been fairly prominent in the political process, much to the chagrin of secularists, non-evangelicals, and liberal Christians. As conservative Christians networked in such groups as the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and American Values, popular figures within liberal Christianity began to feel disenfranchised. They deemed their faith to have been “hijacked” by the religious right.

Framers of the Red Letter movement include Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners magazine; Shane Claiborne, an activist and leader in the New Monasticism movement; Richard Rohr, a well-known Catholic writer; Brian McLaren, an emergent church leader; and Tony Campolo, a popular speaker and author of Red Letter Christians: a Citizen’s Guide to Faith and Politics. These men desired to counter the voice of evangelicalism in the political world."

More info here: What are Red Letter Christians? | GotQuestions.org

 

[Pommer]

"Red Letter Christians are a group of liberal Christians whose desire is to counter the political influence of conservative Christians. In the past thirty years, the voice of evangelical Christianity has been fairly prominent in the political process, much to the chagrin of secularists, non-evangelicals, and liberal Christians. As conservative Christians networked in such groups as the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and American Values, popular figures within liberal Christianity began to feel disenfranchised. They deemed their faith to have been “hijacked” by the religious right.

Framers of the Red Letter movement include Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners magazine; Shane Claiborne, an activist and leader in the New Monasticism movement; Richard Rohr, a well-known Catholic writer; Brian McLaren, an emergent church leader; and Tony Campolo, a popular speaker and author of Red Letter Christians: a Citizen’s Guide to Faith and Politics. These men desired to counter the voice of evangelicalism in the political world."

More info here: What are Red Letter Christians? | GotQuestions.org

Thanks.
Do “red letter Christians” present a problem of some sort?

 

[RoBo1988]

Thanks.
Do “red letter Christians” present a problem of some sort?

No, they're just the other side of the political coin. Tony Campolo was a 'spiritual advisor' to Bill Clinton.

 

[Fantine]

There are many Christians who feel the Religious Right doesn't speak for them--politically or spiritually. I'm one of them.
Both groups are too involved with politics.
I am not against Christianity addressing moral issues--but in terms of party and candidates, they should leave that to each individual and his conscience.

 

[RoBo1988]

There are many Christians who feel the Religious Right doesn't speak for them--politically or spiritually. I'm one of them.
Both groups are too involved with politics.
I am not against Christianity addressing moral issues--but in terms of party and candidates, they should leave that to each individual and his conscience.

I agree. Both sides have "Christian" lobbying, petitioning organizations, attempting to achieve a Democrat or a Republican version of heaven on earth; the right wing groups just get more attention.