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Christian outreach to Satanists.....

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So actual Satanists, not the comic book ones, don't have scary dark powers, and most Satanists don't even believe in the existence of Satan or devils of any sort to begin with. LeVeyan Satanism is a philosophy of selfishness and self-worship, "Satan" is merely symbolic. There are Satanists who do believe in Satan, but they are far fewer in number and they also don't have mystical dark powers either.

The "danger" here is in mistreating your fellow human beings and thinking they have spiritual cooties and are going to hex you. This sort of bogeyman thinking is superstitious hokum. The command of Christ is absolute: love your neighbor. If they are hungry, give them food; if they are thirsty, give them drink. If they hate you, you love; if they curse you, you bless.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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In reality you might just be outreaching to a bunch of atheist edge-lords, lol.

True......
but a new theory in Theoretical Physics combined with some material from a famous near death experience seems to present Christians, Jews, Muslims, Pagans, Hindus, Buddhists,
people of essentially all religions, and yes..... even Satanists with what we could come to view as a
common problem...... a common enemy!







 
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True..... a very high percentage of "Satanists" cannot do controlled out of the body experiences but.......
a few can......
and I personally could be naive... but I believe that all that Mr. John Ramirez states about his abilities while he was a Satanist........
are as true and accurate as he humanly could recount his own personal story.


 
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There's a difference between satanists of the historical variety and of the lavey satanism and there are also discordian satanists that may incorporate misconceptions into their beliefs just for kicks.

I went through such a strange personal theological and philosophical crisis from 1990 to 2000 that I have at least some empathy for both variations of Satanists.


Found the missing Church of Revelation!


 
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I went through such a strange personal theological and philosophical crisis from 1990 to 2000 that I have at least some empathy for both variations of Satanists.


Found the missing Church of Revelation!
From my observation, previous satanists tend to go into more rule oriented traditions because it seems safer. As far as church goes.
 
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From my observation, previous satanists tend to go into more rule oriented traditions because it seems safer. As far as church goes.

Mr. John Ramirez would tend to want to graviTate to a religion similar to that of Pastor Nicky Cruz.... due to a personal experience that he had with the Nicky Cruz ministry when they were in his city...... John went out to smoke them...... and saw a wall of fire around Pastor Nick Cruz's co-workers..... so he was seriously impressed!
 
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I looked that up, it had some funny results.

Yeah it is, lol. As a fan of black metal unfortunately I run into this "satanist" nonsense there too. Although in that scene some musicians purposely went out of their way to portray themselves as actual theistic satanists. Didn't help that actual church burnings and a few murders were tied into that scene. Although the motivations for the church burnings seemed to largely be inspired by a sense of "pagan revenge" and antisemitism, lol.

Most "satanists" I've ran across on the web have for the most part been unpleasant people. Who seem to want to go out of their way to be misunderstood. Many holding a greedy libertarian mindset too, which I personally find revolting. Not that I didn't have my atheist edge lord days, lol. Just that I never found Satan appealing, even as a metaphor.
 
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Or... they are lying in order to perpetuate
the massive psychological study that I believe was initiated at least thousands of years.......
probably millions of years previous to the fixing of the earth and universe in Genesis chapter 1: 1-2, that had been destroyed in the original revolt of Lucifer Satan.... and his third of the angels.

NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.


 
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Actually, if you studied up on the "ancient Romans", like Emperor Constantine and the Catholic Religion, specifically the Jesuit Order, that is exactly what they are (underlined above), .. especially after they created the "Christian Religion".


 
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Oi vey.

That's the Easter Proclamation. the "lucifer" there is Jesus Christ, because "lucifer" is Latin for morning star; and Scripture calls Christ the morning star (2 Peter 1:19).

"Lucifer" isn't a name for the devil. That's a misreading of Isaiah 14 based on making the prophecy against Nebuchadnezzar spiritually about the fall of the devil; but the text never mentions the devil, it calls the king of Babylon "dawn bringer" aka the planet Venus as a sarcastic epithet:

"You will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: 'How the oppressor has ceased, the insolent fury ceased! ... How you are fallen from heaven, o day star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven above the stars of God, I will set my throne on high; I will sit in the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' But you are brought down to She'ol, to the far reaches of the pit."

The king of Babylon as ruler of a mighty empire had conquered and owned many nations, and the ruler of Babylon was treated as a god, and insisted on being worshiped as a god--but he is not a god, he is just a mere man who will be beaten and brought low, and one day die and be in the grave like all other mortals.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Ah, thank goodness you are here to put me on the right track, for a minute I thought Lucifer had something to do with the Devil, Oi vey. I guess the mass had nothing to do with 'pagan god worship', .. you know, like worshipping Deities who reside in the supernatural realm.



So the Vatican's Jesuit run observatory on Mt. Graham observatory named "LUCIFER" has nothing to do with sun-worship, right? Just a coincidence? Thanks.


OK, got it. So nothing to do with Satan, Lucifer or the Devil as the ruler of Babylon and many other nations, right? Those names are what, some long dead deified kings, Pharaohs, .. gods who have been "brought low", .. kind of "Fallen from Heaven", .. mere men!? So why today, in this modern age of science all the "worship" of all these 'mere men'?


Oi vey, how some YouTubers could make something out of nothing really, right!? Now if only I wasn't raised in a Catholic Country like Croatia, .. I would say what I witnessed (eyes, ears, slaps in the face, ..) all my life was just a sarcastic epithet, .. but you see, I know better. I read the Bible, and all this Religious deception is from none other than the Fallen angel Lucifer, .. who may have been the King of Babylon, the Chancellor of Nazi Germany, .. who knows how many World Leaders he possessed over history?

Can you explain to me the true interpretation of Mathew 4? Especially this:

Mathew 4:
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”


If 'Lucifer' was a king, then who was this 'devil', .. or this "Satan" Jesus was being tempted by? Who, some Real-estate Salesman?
 
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There's a conspiracy theory board here on CF where all of this garbage is more appropriate.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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There's a conspiracy theory board here on CF where all of this garbage is more appropriate.

-CryptoLutheran

Show me where this would be considered a "conspiracy theory"? I am pointing out Biblical facts about real live events.
 
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I looked that up, it had some funny results.

I just got a video......
that I have to admit... is really a huge part of what every inspired ministry should do!

This is the awesome challenge!

People don't tell others enough.. that they are awesome....
that they are loved.....
that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus loves them......
and that God has got this!!!

 
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I'm not on facebook, do you have a link outside facebook with the video?

Yes... I finally found the link... and posted it in #58......
The speaker is correct.... human beings are awesome......
we do concentrate on the negative too much.
 
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