Christian Morals

[cvanwey]

When Yahweh reveals the Truth,
when Yahweh grants understanding even to little children of salvation and everything concerning salvation in this life and salvation in the life to come,
there is perfect clarity, in the wisdom and experiential knowledge and perfect judgment and justice of Jesus Messiah Savior King of the Jews.

There is nothing tricky to interpret, unless men do that apart from Christ Jesus, as they often do, in error.

If there is such 'perfect clarity', explain this forum Most here believe in Christ, and yet many disagree upon many verses. All, whom justify why their interpretation is the true interpretation.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If there is such 'perfect clarity', explain this forum Most here believe in Christ, and yet many disagree upon many verses. All, whom justify why their interpretation is the true interpretation.

Now you should be skeptical instead of believing yourself.

 

[cvanwey]

Now you should be skeptical instead of believing yourself.

Lack of 'belief', or being skeptical to Biblical assertion, is the antithesis of 'belief.' FYI

 

[Par5]

Perhaps for your eyes only, remember that mankind would destroy itself if allowed to, as it is attempting to do for centuries already....

The world/carnal perspective is totally without truth, or wisdom, or experiential knowledge of the Creator and His Word.

I would think that is not just for my eyes only. I am certain that many others would consider slaughtering men, women, children and infants, sparing no one, to be mass murder, genocide even.
What exactly would you call it?

 

[SPF]

I would think that is not just for my eyes only. I am certain that many others would consider slaughtering men, women, children and infants, sparing no one, to be mass murder, genocide even.
What exactly would you call it?

Critics of the Old Testament's claim that God ordered the killing of whole tribes in Canaan typically neglect the reason expressly stated in the Old Testament: those tribes were depraved beyond redemption (Gen. 15:16; Lev. 18:21-30; 20:2-5; Deut. 12:29-31; etc.). According to the Old Testament, the Canaanites and other tribes in the land widely practiced child sacrifice, incest, bestiality, and other behaviors that almost everyone in history, including today, rightly regard as unspeakably, grossly immoral.

I also can't help but find it ironic how critics of Scripture have no problem at all accepting Biblical accounts about war in the OT, which they think paints a poor picture of God, but then on the same hand have no problem rejecting Biblical accounts about God's positive miraculous interventions. Talk about inconsistent.

The truth, which we have a hard time recognizing - indeed 100% of people who have not accepted Christ have yet to recognize this - is that life isn't about us. We aren't the center of the universe, and we are actually accountable for our actions.

 

[Par5]

Critics of the Old Testament's claim that God ordered the killing of whole tribes in Canaan typically neglect the reason expressly stated in the Old Testament: those tribes were depraved beyond redemption (Gen. 15:16; Lev. 18:21-30; 20:2-5; Deut. 12:29-31; etc.). According to the Old Testament, the Canaanites and other tribes in the land widely practiced child sacrifice, incest, bestiality, and other behaviors that almost everyone in history, including today, rightly regard as unspeakably, grossly immoral.

I also can't help but find it ironic how critics of Scripture have no problem at all accepting Biblical accounts about war in the OT, which they think paints a poor picture of God, but then on the same hand have no problem rejecting Biblical accounts about God's positive miraculous interventions. Talk about inconsistent.

The truth, which we have a hard time recognizing - indeed 100% of people who have not accepted Christ have yet to recognize this - is that life isn't about us. We aren't the center of the universe, and we are actually accountable for our actions.

Who said that I accept the accounts about anything in the bible? I only state what it says in the bible, but that does not mean I believe what it says. If those war atrocity accounts recorded in the bible actually happened, I don't believe that they had anything to do with a god but were the actions of men and men alone. They used a belief in a god to justify their actions just as you use your belief in that same god to justify mass murder. Just as I don't believe a god had anything to do with such atrocities, I also don't believe in miraculous interventions.
So you see, my criticism is not really about the biblical god, it is about people who have a belief system that allows them to say that slaughtering men, women, chlidren and infants can be justified.
You are correct when you say that such things as child sacrifice, bestiality and incest are regarded as being grossly immoral and totally unacceptable, but I find it strange that you can readily accept and attempt to justify an act of genocide which is also regarded as grossly immoral and unacceptable.

 

[stevevw]

Then what is the point of the ten commandments, all other Mosaic laws, or reading the many other claims and statements from the Bible?

The Commandments and law shows us that we are sinners by giving us a measurement to go by. If there were no laws then people would not know they have sinned.

Romans 7:7-8
7 Well then, am I suggesting that the law of God is sinful? Of course not! In fact, it was the law that showed me my sin. I would never have known that coveting is wrong if the law had not said, “You must not covet.”a]">[a] 8 But sin used this command to arouse all kinds of covetous desires within me! If there were no law, sin would not have that power.