Christian infiltration.

[Kasey]

I got home yesterday after a hard days work. I was looking forward to sit down infron of the comp, and relax.

Sometimes i like to turn on the radio while working on the comp, so that i can hear some music.

I must say, that i wasn't expecting much from the radio, because i know that there is a lot of christian material being sent, which i have no interest in hearing.

We have 3 radio stations here.

I turned on the first one, and there was a priest speaking about homosexuality.

I turned on the second one, and that was about a mans spiritual journey.

I turned on the third and last one. This was a taped recording from a church.

Well, i then went to turn on the only TV channel we have in this country. What did i see?? Inside a church!!

All of the media i could see or listen to, only had christian material, and it's like this all day every day.

The first radio station and the TV channel, are required by law to send christian material. The other 2 radio stations are owned by christians.

When you go to puplic school for 10 years, you are required to meet for a morning sermon every day, and christianity is a required subject for 8 years.

Anyone with the slightest idea of psychology is, knows that this affects people. Religion is being forced on people.

When you think about it. Is there absolutely any reason whatsoever for christians to hear this all day?? They are already saved!

Where is the moral in this??

re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Take from www.dictionary.com

Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- more at RELY
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
- re·li·gion·less adjective

Taken from www.m-w.com

NOUN: 1a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Taken from www.bartleby.com

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As you can see from these three sources alone, a religion is not only based upon something that you would call "spiritual" or "mystical". Religion can also be classified as any belief system that you follow, whether or not its with the belief in a so-called "diety".

Therefore, Athiesm is a religion and Evolution is a religion. If someone believed that they were created by a martian from mars, thats still a religion. Its your beliefs, whether supposedly "spiritual" or "scientific".

Having a problem with a so-called "spiritual" religion being supposedly forced down your throat? Well, I have a problem with the so-called "scientific" religion of Evolution being forced down other people's throat.

People want to go "BOO! Dont put "religion" in schools! Teach them evolution instead!". Bah, its hypocrisy. The very least that these hypocrites can do is show both sides of the coin and let the students decide for themselves, but hey, lets not do that, we need evolution. Har har, its a government sanctioned religion. Hey! Lets NOT talk about that though! Ooooo! Hot territory! People are going to get burned! AAAAAA!

 

[wowbagger]

Me? You're the one who's assuming that they want to proselytize just because they want to be able to make announcements like other clubs.

If you read my response, I said it was fine as long as they used the PA for announcement type info and not for preaching. I don't assume they want to do anything! I don't know them or their situation at all. I simply provided hypotheticals to explain my position. I actually think we have agreed on this point all along. Go figure.

Actually, you did say it:

If you are so perturbed, that they can't pray and take up other students' time, then send them to private school! You can do what you want then!

Wrong. Their "own personal free time" is NOT "other students time" unless the other students are in on the deal. That should be obvious to anyone with command of the english language. If they are not disturbing the other students, then they can pray till Jesus comes for all I care.

I cannot go into one of my finance meetings at work and randomly start a prayer- it's INAPPROPRIATE. At home, church, or quietly at my desk- FINE.

 

[Wakeup2god]

Wow, just read Kaceys post, glad I'm not religeous.

 

[12volt_man]

Wrong. Their "own personal free time" is NOT "other students time" unless the other students are in on the deal. That should be obvious to anyone with command of the english language.

Yes, it should be but, evidently, you don't seem to get it.

Your statement was in response to children praying on their own free time. That was made clear to you.

I cannot go into one of my finance meetings at work and randomly start a prayer- it's INAPPROPRIATE. At home, church, or quietly at my desk- FINE.

For the umpteenth time, we are talking about children praying on their own free time, not during class.

 

[Bond Slave]

I got home yesterday after a hard days work. I was looking forward to sit down infron of the comp, and relax.

Sometimes i like to turn on the radio while working on the comp, so that i can hear some music.

I must say, that i wasn't expecting much from the radio, because i know that there is a lot of christian material being sent, which i have no interest in hearing.

We have 3 radio stations here.

I turned on the first one, and there was a priest speaking about homosexuality.

I turned on the second one, and that was about a mans spiritual journey.

I turned on the third and last one. This was a taped recording from a church.

Well, i then went to turn on the only TV channel we have in this country. What did i see?? Inside a church!!

All of the media i could see or listen to, only had christian material, and it's like this all day every day.

The first radio station and the TV channel, are required by law to send christian material. The other 2 radio stations are owned by christians.

When you go to puplic school for 10 years, you are required to meet for a morning sermon every day, and christianity is a required subject for 8 years.

Anyone with the slightest idea of psychology is, knows that this affects people. Religion is being forced on people.

When you think about it. Is there absolutely any reason whatsoever for christians to hear this all day?? They are already saved!

Where is the moral in this??

Sounds like there still is a community that has it right. WOW! I thought goodness was about extinct. Glad to hear it. Maybe I will move.

 

[Bond Slave]

Where is this place you live in, so I can both avoid it as much as possible and send you some sort of escaping device?

Yes, maybe we could have some wiccan cast a spell and float him out of there.

 

[Bond Slave]

Hehe sorry, i forgot to mention which country =)

It's the Faroe Islands. A small group of islands located in Europe, Scandinavia. Population 47.000.

I do not look at it as a choice when you learn it in school and all the media through childhood. Any psychologist would agree with me.

If it was a genuine choise, i think we would see more than 2 muslims here.

Well, of course you have a choise, but we know that no one will make the choise, because we have never heard of anything else. We don't see any other options.

What other theory would there be to why diffirerent religions are all regional??

Psychology is a mess anyway. The only "self realization" people need to come to is that they are sinners and lost without the love of Jesus. It is the only thing that will have any lasting impact for the better on anyone.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

As you can see from these three sources alone, a religion is not only based upon something that you would call "spiritual" or "mystical". Religion can also be classified as any belief system that you follow, whether or not its with the belief in a so-called "diety".

This is purely semantics. A religion is, by definition, related to the supernatural and spiritual. If you want to try to claim that non-supernatural and non-spiritual things can be classed as religions, then include bowling and stamp collecting. They, of course, are 'belief systems' too.

Therefore, Athiesm is a religion and Evolution is a religion. If someone believed that they were created by a martian from mars, thats still a religion. Its your beliefs, whether supposedly "spiritual" or "scientific".

Atheism isn't even a belief, so it can't be a religion. Evolution isn't a religion either - it's a scientific theory. If evolution is a religion, so is gravity and thermodynamics.

Having a problem with a so-called "spiritual" religion being supposedly forced down your throat? Well, I have a problem with the so-called "scientific" religion of Evolution being forced down other people's throat.

You have a problem with science being taught to children? Sorry, that's what getting an education is about - being taught things. Science, math, language skills...sorry if you don't like it.

People want to go "BOO! Dont put "religion" in schools! Teach them evolution instead!". Bah, its hypocrisy.

No, it's not. Evolution is not a religion - it's science.

The very least that these hypocrites can do is show both sides of the coin and let the students decide for themselves,

Decide for themselves between what? Science and religion? I guess we better teach them that some people think the earth is flat, too, and let them decide for themselves? And that some think the earth is the centre of the universe?

but hey, lets not do that, we need evolution. Har har, its a government sanctioned religion.

No, it's just science.

 

[Finella]

12 volt_man,

Let's review.

You initially argued that American media has a dearth of Christian programming in response to someone who has no choice whatsoever in the programming provided in his country. In his case, it's a limited number of channels (three) and they all provide Christian only-programming.

Several posters, including myself, have pointed out that, in fact, you have quite a number of choices in your television and radio programming, including several Christian programs.

You replied that you do not agree with the doctrines presented by the organizations who create these programs. You also state you do not feel that some of these organizations are Christian by your own definition and interpretation of the Bible.

So, really, a much more accurate statement of your situation would be:

"I lack access to Christian programming that presents what I consider to be truly Christian values and concepts."

This is a bit different than your original claim.