Christian Homophobia

[AJB4]

I think it's really sad how homophobic many Christians are. Whether or not you believe that the practise is right or not, why must many Christians treat them like their less of people, and call them such derogatory names and such? I think that Jesus would treat them the same as any other sinner (which is everybody), and so should we.

I also find it weird that when people are seen doing other things that are sinful, they go unnoticed, but when attention is drawn to the fact that someone is gay, people seem to go out of their way to say rude things about them, more so then any other "type" of sinner.

 

[Jase]

Yup, i've noticed this too. I think it's because it's such an easy topic for Christians to target and they feel like they can just condemn people who are different then them, while ignoring every other sin. Homosexuality is no different than lying or overeating, and yet most fundamentalist Christians ( which are the ones who take issue with it) don't realize it. Considering this is America, and 2/3 of Americans are obese, it's ironic that they target the smallest minority of people. Funny how Greed and Gluttony (the 2 biggest sins in America) get no mention, but homosexuality is the work of the devil. Hypocrites, nothing more. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[ContentInHim]

I think some people believe (probably due to political correctness, the media and homosexual publicity) that any objection to homosexuality is homophobia and bigotry. It's not true.

What is true in the OP that other non-sexual sins are glossed over. Generally this is due to the fact that sexual sin is so much more destructive than eating that second donut.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I think some people believe (probably due to political correctness, the media and homosexual publicity) that any objection to homosexuality is homophobia and bigotry. It's not true.

What is true in the OP that other non-sexual sins are glossed over. Generally this is due to the fact that sexual sin is so much more destructive than eating that second donut.

What is destructive about homosexuality?

 

[LoG]

What is destructive about homosexuality?

Aids for one. Two- A tendency to involve minors.
Before I was 16 years of age I had been propositioned 4-5 times by different middleaged homosexuals. Fortunately in a public place each time. I know a few who were forced. The long-term ramifications of those acts are pretty bad. Usually worse then a heterosexual rape.

Never once got propositioned by an older woman looking to make my day.

 

[IamRedeemed]

The Bible tells us that sexual immorality (of any kind) is sin against our own bodies unlike other sin.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

What is destructive about homosexuality?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You are far more likely to catch HIV from a HETEROsexual encounter than a homosexual one...

And Homosexuality has nothing to do with minors... thats paedophilia, and thats different.

So, again... what is ACTUALLY destructive about homosexuality?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

The Bible tells us that sexual immorality is sin against our own bodies unlike other sin.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

And why do you have any reason to suggest that sexual immorality amongst homosexuals is any worse than sexual immorality amongst heterosexuals?

Why do homosexuals need to be specifically targeted?

 

[IamRedeemed]

Again, the Bible tells us in 1 Corinthians 6:18 that sexual immorality (of any kind) is sin against our own bodies.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

The vast sexually transmitted diseases one can receive as a result of sexual immorality of any kind and even incur a death sentence as a result is evidence that the Scripture is true.

You are far more likely to catch HIV from a HETEROsexual encounter than a homosexual one...

And Homosexuality has nothing to do with minors... thats paedophilia, and thats different.

So, again... what is ACTUALLY destructive about homosexuality?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Again, the Bible tells us in 1 Corinthians 6:18 that sexual immorality (of any kind) is sin against our own bodies.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

The vast sexually transmitted diseases one can receive as a result of sexual immorality of any kind and even incur a death sentence as a result is evidence that the Scripture is true.

Good... and this has what to do with homosexuals, specifically, that it doesn't have to do with heterosexuals?

 

[Dave01]

Again, the Bible tells us in 1 Corinthians 6:18 that sexual immorality (of any kind) is sin against our own bodies.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.

The vast sexually transmitted diseases one can receive as a result of sexual immorality of any kind and even incur a death sentence as a result is evidence that the Scripture is true.

What you are seeing here is an example of a generation of people not believing what GOD said about these sorts of subjects. They refuse to believe their bible.

 

[LoG]

You are far more likely to catch HIV from a HETEROsexual encounter than a homosexual one...

And Homosexuality has nothing to do with minors... thats paedophilia, and thats different.

So, again... what is ACTUALLY destructive about homosexuality?

Let's just say that in general, homosexuals tend to engage in multiple partner sex and pedophilia a lot more frequently that heterosexuals.

A greater percentage of homosexuals have aids then those who only engage in heterosexual relationships.

Another aspect is that homosexuals have deeper psychological issues.

 

[IamRedeemed]

Actually it is a warning in love. Some people may be hateful about it, and they will have to answer for their sins, you and I are responsible for ours and another's sin does not justify or rectify our sins. We will all stand before God ALONE, and give an account of ourselves, and we won't be able to justify ourselves by pointing fingers at others on that day. While man judges the outward appearance (assuming he knows another's motives) God is judging the heart.

The fact of the matter is, God would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if He didn't judge homosexuality today, and the reality is, that is not going to happen, as the Lord changes not. See Malachi 3:6a

If God has called something an abomination, He is not going to change on that. After all, He is our creator and He knows why He created us, and if we are perverting the gift that He gave us, He is worthy to judge it, and regardless of how many churches become apostate and say that what God has called evil, is now good, they are only deceiving themselves and others. And will account for those whom they lead astray as well.
God is not mocked. See Galatians 6:7

Unlike other sins, sexual immorality is a sin against one's own body. See 1 Corinthians 6:18

Any effective minister of the Lord is going to expound on all sin. Jesus was made sin for us, so that we could be set free. Trust that no one's sin is hidden from God and Jesus rebuked hypocrites.

Yup, i've noticed this too. I think it's because it's such an easy topic for Christians to target and they feel like they can just condemn people who are different then them, while ignoring every other sin. Homosexuality is no different than lying or overeating, and yet most fundamentalist Christians ( which are the ones who take issue with it) don't realize it. Considering this is America, and 2/3 of Americans are obese, it's ironic that they target the smallest minority of people. Funny how Greed and Gluttony (the 2 biggest sins in America) get no mention, but homosexuality is the work of the devil. Hypocrites, nothing more. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[LoG]

God would have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if He didn't judge homosexuality today, and the reality is, that is not going to happen, as the Lord changes not. See Malachi 3:6a

I could be wrong but I was always under the impression that the problem with Sodom and Gomorrah was their "violent" sexual deviancy.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Let's just say that in general, homosexuals tend to engage in multiple partner sex and pedophilia a lot more frequently that heterosexuals.

Um... no, not true, so lets NOT say it, huh? How about that?

A greater percentage of homosexuals have aids then those who only engage in heterosexual relationships.

Again, nope, not true... even percentage wise... many more heterosexuals in the world have HIV than homosexuals. Sorry... maybe you should check your facts before making such gross assumptions and generalisations?

Another aspect is that homosexuals have deeper psychological issues.

Really? And it says that in the DSM IV does it? Maybe in a press release from the PAMA? No? Whats that? You're just making stuff up? I hear you now.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

According to Ezekiel, the problem with S+G was that they didn't give to the poor

 

[IamRedeemed]

Right. Sad but true. Just as was prophesied,in the Word of the Lord, in these last days, many hearts will wax cold and many will be turned over to their reprobate minds and allowed to believe the lies of the enemy of our souls.

What you are seeing here is an example of a generation of people not believing what GOD said about these sorts of subjects. They refuse to believe their bible.

 

[IamRedeemed]

That is not according to Ezekiel, that is according to a severe misinterpretation of Scripture. Where did you learn that info from? Is that being taught by the Episcopal church?

The true situation is that:

There was such sexual immorality in Sodom and Gomorrah that the men didn't even recognize angels from heaven when they saw them come to Lot's home.

Lot had to fight them off and beg them for their own sakes, not to do what they were trying to do which their intent were to be with the angels in a sexual way. Lot even offered them his daughters in lieu of them trying to force themselves on God's holy angels. (which they would have been instantly destroyed I am quite sure) and Thank God they did not take Lot up on his offer of his virgin daughters, for his daughter's sakes, but they finally went away. If you read the account, you can clearly see what the problem was, and it had absolutely nothing to do with being or not being charitable. That I can assure you.

According to Ezekiel, the problem with S+G was that they didn't give to the poor

 

[LoG]

Really? And it says that in the DSM IV does it? Maybe in a press release from the PAMA? No? Whats that? You're just making stuff up? I hear you now.

Making stuff up? Give your head a shake. Even a cursory search of Google with the appropriate search terms, turn up site after site with stats proving what I said.

As an example:

a report from the Journal of Sex Research which noted that homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses, even though they are outnumbered by heterosexuals 20 to one. Less than four percent of the population commits one-third of the offenses against children!

I agree that singling out one type of sinner from another is not a good thing from a Christian point of view but then neither am I going to whitewash the statistical truth in an effort to maintain the political correctness that some would like.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Right. Sad but true. Just as was prophesied,in the Word of the Lord, in these last days, many hearts will wax cold and many will be turned over to their reprobate minds and allowed to believe the lies of the enemy of our souls.

So... is anyone going to explain why sexual immorality amongst homosexuals is worse than sexual immorality among heterosexuals, or what?