Christian Evolutionist

[In A Perfect World]

Me personally, im a Creationist.

But think for a second, because we believe in our God that He arose Himself from the dead, and gave us a second chance to be made right in His sight....and we worship Him, wouldnt it make sense to take Genesis literally??? To become astounish by His great power in creating all things???? I mean to NOT take the Bible seriously and literally is like saying " I believe in God, but not admire His voice and great power, knowledge and understanding."

If humans are flawed to begin with, why trust anything they've written down? It may be God's word but humans wrote it down. Play telephone and after 5 steps you may not get the same thing you started with.

Creation was how the writers of the Bible believed the world was created. Many religions have creation stories. If Genesis were written now, people may have wrote about evolution and the big bang.

 

[nvxplorer]

I wonder how many YECs can see the similarity in this position to theirs. They interpret the Bible one way, assume it must be True as it's the Word of God, then try to fit reality around it. Also, Geocentrics say that YECs aren't "True Christians" as they accept the unscriptural view of heliocentrism, in the same way that YECs say that TE's aren't "True Christians" for not accepting spontaneous dust-to-man creation, Noachian flood etc.

Would these YECs view Geocentrics to be more Christian than they are, because they accept a more literal reading of the Bible that YECs?

I would take this one step further and say that a Jewish interpretation of Genesis (and the OT in general) in the original Hebrew could be more "true" than Christian geocentrics.

 

[Split Rock]

I mean to NOT take the Bible seriously and literally is like saying " I believe in God, but not admire His voice and great power, knowledge and understanding."

How does not taking a story about a woman made from a rib and a talking snake literally mean you don't admire God?

 

[Master X]

How does not taking a story about a woman made from a rib and a talking snake literally mean you don't admire God?

Because you are THEN simply neglecting His ability to create...since He created all things, Evolution all it claims is that all things were created by "nature" or "coincedence". Evolution doesnt involve God at all, it is teach in schools to influence in everyones minds to perpitrate to a false fact that "God doesnt exist".

I mean think about it brothers and sisters at what Satan has done....

"How does not taking a story about a woman made from a rib and a talking snare literally mean you dont admire God?"

^ One if you cant take this literally, then by all means thats like saying "Jesus never walked on water." < By which by we all know that He did walked on water, so if we believe that Jesus has done something like this, how hard is it to believe in the book of Genesis. When Satan as a serpent who tempted Eve into making Man as it is today: confused, knowing both good and evil, and by Adam are sinners...

 

[jwu]

Because you are THEN simply neglecting His ability to create...since He created all things, Evolution all it claims is that all things were created by "nature" or "coincedence". Evolution doesnt involve God at all, it is teach in schools to influence in everyones minds to perpitrate to a false fact that "God doesnt exist".

Not at all. If God exists, then by definition anything that happens in nature does so with His consent. Mutations are just His tool of creation then, and who knows if He doesn't directly influence them on a quantum physical level, or set things up so that everything takes the course He wants from the beginning?
Evolution doesn't neglect God's ability to create in any way - it just provides details about the modus operandi.

 

[Master X]

Not at all. If God exists, then by definition anything that happens in nature does so with His consent. Mutations are just His tool of creation then, and who knows if He doesn't directly influence them on a quantum physical level, or set things up so that everything takes the course He wants from the beginning?
Evolution doesn't neglect God's ability to create in any way - it just provides details about the modus operandi.

Why? I dont understand, MACRO-Evolution has been proven false, time and time again...is it at least MIRCRO-Evolution you guys cling yourselves into????

 

[Nathan Poe]

Why? I dont understand, MACRO-Evolution has been proven false, time and time again...is it at least MIRCRO-Evolution you guys cling yourselves into????

Macroevolution has not been proven false. Speciation has been observed. Where are you getting this rubbish from?

 

[Elduran]

Why? I dont understand, MACRO-Evolution has been proven false, time and time again...is it at least MIRCRO-Evolution you guys cling yourselves into????

You're talking nonsense! Macroevolution (in creationists' own terms) has been observed on several occasions and you can find links to such reports on this forum with little effort.

In any case, there are no proofs against macroevolution, and anyone telling you that there are is almost certainly either lying to you or propagating a lie, whether or not they are doing so intentionally. Such a proof would shake up the scientific world and would leave many areas of science with a lot of work on their hands to find out what was really going on. However, as macroevolution is supported by the evidence and itself supports our understanding of the planet and its history, it is very unlikely to be found false at this point.

Of course, if you'd like to present this evidence...?

 

[Jimmy The Hand]

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[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

Looking back at the OP, why is it that folks who claim to be so taken by Genesis are the least capable of spelling it?

This sort of thing fascinates me. Elsewhere we've got someone who's apparently researched fossils in detail but can't spell the word. What gives?

 

[Master X]

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...

 

[MartinM]

Which would be why almost all scientists accept it, leaving only the uninformed and the religiously motivated to reject it.

 

[z3ro]

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...

Really? So allele frequencies don't change over time?

 

[Numenor]

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...

LOL! Is that the best you can do? At least provide some evidence otherwise we'll have to draw our own conclusions...

 

[Army of Juan]

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...

There is NO proof of God, it's just a myth.

 

[Ryder]

Believing in evolution doesn't mean you can't be a Christian. I will say though that I'm not sure what the appeal is, to believe in a theory with the primary premise of a naturalistic universe, and that is largely unproven to this day. Oh well, go figure...

 

[MartinM]

I will say though that I'm not sure what the appeal is, to believe in a theory with the primary premise of a naturalistic universe, and that is largely unproven to this day. Oh well, go figure...

Evolution is no more or less naturalistic than any other theory, nor is it any more or less proven.

 

[Robert the Pilegrim]

Me personally, im a Creationist.

But think for a second, because we believe in our God that He arose Himself from the dead, and gave us a second chance to be made right in His sight....and we worship Him, wouldnt it make sense to take Genesis literally???

If it weren't for the evidence against that interpretation, yes.

To become astounish by His great power in creating all things???? I mean to NOT take the Bible seriously and literally is like saying " I believe in God, but not admire His voice and great power, knowledge and understanding."

And this has what to do with theological evolutionists?

 

[Mistermystery]

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...

A++ would read again.

 

[Late_Cretaceous]

Well, I am convinced. That was so well articulated, how could I disagree.

There is NO proof of Evolution, its a dead theory...