"Christian churches have lost their way ...."

[frienden thalord]

This to me is what many people looking to Christ have not been told in the churches.

I have spoken to Christians today who tell me that sin is unavoidable because we are in this flesh, that it's impossible to live free from.

Everything the Holy Spirit has taught me in scripture and done in my life is opposite of the above comments. I do not know what people are teaching today around the world, but i know that i will be judged based on what i know and what i tell people. And if i speak not in love and meekness than i have accomplished nothing. All of this is in love and for someone who believes on Jesus Christ but can not seem to break free from sin. This was my life for 20 years, but now its time to voice the truth, and the truth is GOD's word.


1 John 3:8-9, says
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

And the apostle John plainly tells us that those who are in Christ Jesus are born of GOD.
John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of
God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the
will of man, but of God.

You are born of GOD if you believe on Jesus Christ according to John 1:12-13 and filled with the Holy Spirit!(John 7:38-39).
John says that if you are born of GOD you do not commit sin. How can this be?
By the power of the Holy Spirit to put to death the deeds of the flesh....

Romans 8:8 “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 8:13 " 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

The "power" in John 1:12-13 is the Holy Ghost given by GOD to those that believe on the name of Jesus Christ and repent :

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth

Before the Holy Spirit comes in we can not live holy nor free of sin because the power to break free from sin which worketh in our flesh is the Holy Ghost!

That is why in Romans 7 Paul explained that before Christ he could never do the things he wanted, but his flesh had dominion over him, and his flesh always served sin, never GOD.

Romans 7:18
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

The very next chapter explains that Christ Jesus has not only redeemed us to GOD by His blood and paid the sacrifice for our sins washing us, but has given us a way to break free and truly live free from sin by the "promise & power to those that believe on Him as the scripture hath said" the Holy Spirit!

Romans 8:8 “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Romans 8:13 " 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.


Very lastly before anyone gets the wrong idea, GOD is merciful unto us, and if any man sin, if you have the mind to repent GOD will forgive you in Christ Jesus.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Finally if you are reading this, AND ALREADY BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST AS THE SCRIPTURES HATH SAID and know you are living in sin, and have the question whether you have been filled with the Holy Spirit,
do this
1. Repent again and ask GOD to fill you. (repent=you have godly sorrow and truly want to never commit sin again if only you had the power.(the Holy Ghost)..)
OR
2. Ask GOD to confirm His presence in you. ( i spoke in tongues and felt the Holy Ghost come in, it was a real spiritual experience.)

How to be filled?
1. Believe on Jesus as the scripture hath said.
2. Repent of all your sins and ask for forgiveness, (truly repent)
3. Ask the Father to fill you in Jesus name!

(supporting scripture)

John 7:38-39
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


You must believe on the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost and fully believe the gospel of Jesus Christ as the scriptures hath said and repent.
Also, give up anything in your life you are putting before GOD, that can keep you from being filled. (personal testimony of a brother in my church who idolized/loved his car way too much, and was forced to sell it for financial reasons, and after was filled with the Holy Ghost and confirmed by speaking in tongues.)

(p.s. Paul told the Jews in Acts chapter 2 to be baptized only in Jesus name because they were Jews and knew who the one true GOD was and already believed in the trinity, they only had a problem believing on Jesus Christ. But for Gentiles, we were without GOD in the world and needed to believe on all three of the trinity, since we had no idea who the one true GOD was and is, don't be confused as to why Jesus told the apostles to baptize in the name of the Father, The son and the Holy Ghost in Matthew 28:19 , this was for all nations who knew not GOD yet, the Jews already believed on the true and living GOD. Some had an issue believing on Jesus Christ at that time.)

TRULY this is a rare gem these days.....
I have found so few that truly KNOW the real and living power of the HOLY GHOST
who by the grace of GOD.....indwells a believer and the the salvation of GOD
can be seen.
FOR truly the gospel of GOD has appeared
that brings salvation
TEACHING US to DENY ungodliness and wordly lusts
to be living righteously , holy and godly in this present world.....
TIS the POWER o GOD, that by faith in CHRIST whom the FATHER by grace
draws us to..................that we should no longer live in the flesh to the lusts of men
but TO live unto GOD..........by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT
which we follow , and those who follow the SPIRIT , as our beloved
brother pual once said
IF ye walk after the SPIRIT ..ye shal NOT fulfill the lusts of the flesh.....
OH peace joy love..............the gospel, the true gosple
can be seen........and always has a remnant known and wont be swayed
FOR THEY follow the lamb by FAITH
and HE leads us not into darkness of sin
but by HIS LIGHT guides us in TRUTH , HOLINESS and righteousness
by which His POWER gives us both the unction and power
to walk righteously as he is RIGHTEOUS
and marvel not little children............we know that he that does righteousness
has been born of HIM and is righteous even as HE is righteous....
THIER Is no POWER , like the POWER of GOD
by which the catpives are set free...............truly made free
of the power of sin, to be overcomes by faith in OUR LORD
and our faith in HIM shows...............for its HE ALONE w e follow...
rejoice peace joy love..............I say rejoice in the LORD..........

 

[Albion]

That (what you wrote) is not the same as saying that, once a persion is born again, he simply cannot sin anymore.

 

[frienden thalord]

That (what you wrote) is not the same as saying that, once a persion is born again, he simply cannot sin anymore.

IT is teaching the real POWER of GOD.....
by which if we follow.......we wont sin....
we , have to obey the flesh and disregaurd the SPIRIT
for if ONE has indeed the HOLY SPIRIT, it will unction us to not look at sin
in fact we have the power to bring every thought to the obedience of CHRIST
the thing is..............most have not the HOLY SPIRIT
and they have NO REAL idea of what I say.........
for they have been taught twisted doctrines of men.
We cant teach a powerless gospel ,
JESUS came to set the captives free...............and like the Pharisees once
said...........we were not in bondage to man..............what do you mean
ye shall be made free..............
HE who sins is the SERVANT of sin, and the Servant of sin
WILL NOT abide in the house forever
BUT THE SON DOES ABIDE IN THE HOUSE FOREVER
thus
if truly we are of HIM and will obey HIS SPIRIT , we wont act the SIN OUT
NOW , if any of you do sin , my believers,
LET the man who converts the SINNER from the error of his way
KNOW he has saved a soul, a SOUL from death.
THAT IS HOW SERIOUS SIN IS
and the CHURCHES need to wake up
and put the HOLY fear of GOD into the flocks
the number one method of correcting or keeping the flock
IS SOUND DOCTRINE.....if only they would preach that
what a major step forward.
mans wisdom is foolish, and his ways of trying to go around scrips
and figure out how to go around what JESUS said..............
is death.
I have found , that by the POWER of real grace
and the POWER of the real JESUS
that ALL THINGS are possible unto any who believes.......
Where have the grave men went...
when true grave men did all, with such speed
to correct any member that errs
and don't like many today..................allow any to wallow in any sin.
PREACH SOUND doctrine , by the POWER of the SPIRIT
and believe me...............if any is truly of HIM
and in any sin...........THEY GONNA get convicted and repent so fast
THANK our LORD
peter did not tell simeon.........well its okay, god knows ya sin
just try and sin less......
PETER put the HOLY fear o f GOD in simeone
and IT WORKD..........that man got so scared
he was repenting and asking peter , oh pray for me.
REAL DOCTRINE works.........mans verions fails..........
and don't you agree.................amen.

 

[frienden thalord]

That (what you wrote) is not the same as saying that, once a persion is born again, he simply cannot sin anymore.

IT is teaching the real POWER of GOD.....
by which if we follow.......we wont sin....
we , have to obey the flesh and disregaurd the SPIRIT
for if ONE has indeed the HOLY SPIRIT, it will unction us to not look at sin
in fact we have the power to bring every thought to the obedience of CHRIST
the thing is..............most have not the HOLY SPIRIT
and they have NO REAL idea of what I say.........
for they have been taught twisted doctrines of men.
We cant teach a powerless gospel ,
JESUS came to set the captives free...............and like the Pharisees once
said...........we were not in bondage to man..............what do you mean
ye shall be made free..............
HE who sins is the SERVANT of sin, and the Servant of sin
WILL NOT abide in the house forever
BUT THE SON DOES ABIDE IN THE HOUSE FOREVER
thus
if truly we are of HIM and will obey HIS SPIRIT , we wont act the SIN OUT
NOW , if any of you do sin , my believers,
LET the man who converts the SINNER from the error of his way
KNOW he has saved a soul, a SOUL from death.
THAT IS HOW SERIOUS SIN IS
and the CHURCHES need to wake up
and put the HOLY fear of GOD into the flocks
the number one method of correcting or keeping the flock
IS SOUND DOCTRINE.....if only they would preach that
what a major step forward.
mans wisdom is foolish, and his ways of trying to go around scrips
and figure out how to go around what JESUS said..............
is death.
I have found , that by the POWER of real grace
and the POWER of the real JESUS
that ALL THINGS are possible unto any who believes.......
Where have the grave men went...
when true grave men did all, with such speed
to correct any member that errs
and don't like many today..................allow any to wallow in any sin.
PREACH SOUND doctrine , by the POWER of the SPIRIT
and believe me...............if any is truly of HIM
and in any sin...........THEY GONNA get convicted and repent so fast
THANK our LORD
peter did not tell simeon.........well its okay, god knows ya sin
just try and sin less......
PETER put the HOLY fear o f GOD in simeone
and IT WORKD..........that man got so scared
he was repenting and asking peter , oh pray for me.
REAL DOCTRINE works.........mans verions fails..........
and don't you agree.................amen.

 

[PeaceJoyLove]

Holy Fear! Amen. He calls us to be holy and to the natural man, that is impossible. However, it IS promised to be possible by the Power of God. Man is weak and hopeless to overcome, but all scripture tells us and points to The Way to be an overcomer of sin and the world. If we truly believe in HIM, then we will believe that His spirit alive within has the power to keep us from sinning. HE promises to come and transform that old, sinful heart into a brand new one where HIS laws are written...meaning our whole way of living and doing things will change, not by conscious following of rules, but by the power of HIM alive within.

We need to be asking ourselves if we are finding it impossible to live in The Way, why is it so? Because HE calls us to holiness and without being holy, there will be no seeing God or walking in the Kingdom. The doctrines of man have crept into 'church' and twisted scripture to fit man's ways that are weak and powerless against sin. True believers will pound on heavens door seeking HIM and the power promised in the Gospel...or else there is no belief in The Promises of God, is there?

 

[frienden thalord]

Holy Fear! Amen. He calls us to be holy and to the natural man, that is impossible. However, it IS promised to be possible by the Power of God. Man is weak and hopeless to overcome, but all scripture tells us and points to The Way to be an overcomer of sin and the world. If we truly believe in HIM, then we will believe that His spirit alive within has the power to keep us from sinning. HE promises to come and transform that old, sinful heart into a brand new one where HIS laws are written...meaning our whole way of living and doing things will change, not by conscious following of rules, but by the power of HIM alive within.

We need to be asking ourselves if we are finding it impossible to live in The Way, why is it so? Because HE calls us to holiness and without being holy, there will be no seeing God or walking in the Kingdom. The doctrines of man have crept into 'church' and twisted scripture to fit man's ways that are weak and powerless against sin. True believers will pound on heavens door seeking HIM and the power promised in the Gospel...or else there is no belief in The Promises of God, is there?

and this is why I have such heaviness for so many.........its clearly written that all unbelievers
etc shall have their part in the lake of fire...............the saddest thing to have
to see, is that so many wont come to the SON that they may have life
JESUS paid the price for not only our sins....but the sins of the whole wide world
YET , if one wont come......they end up paying the price of the wages if sin
in a lake of fire
and that was NOT GODS desire..........his desire is that all would be saved
that none would perish,
but if one wont come to the SON, then only the wrath of GOD abides on them....by
HIS grace, I am going to preach the real life giving , life changing ,life saving gosple
THAT all who will hear his wonderful good news......shall come to the SON
and repent of the old wicked man........and by his grace , by faith in HIM
ALLOW his wonderful live changing , true gospel of salvation
grace to enter the heart and put the new holy , new heart desires
true power that transforms the believer
into a new man that walks in righteousness, holiness by that POWER
man.........that is such wonderful news..........it would truly make a lame man dance
I mean , That GOd loves us so, that not only did HE send the SON
to pay the price of our sins................but to transform such wicked things
INTO new creatures..........man I just have to go praise HIM right now
for his mercy on one like me........I mean just go praise him with a song from my heart.
SING , SING to the LORD......................and then SINGsome more.........

 

[frienden thalord]

I mean ponder the beauty of HIS HOLINESS
as paul once said we were dead in SIN
but the LIGHT of CHRIST has shined into the darkness of our hearts
AWAKE churches AWAKE..............and CHRIST shall give THEE LIGHT
awake to HIS RIGHTEOUNESS
or as pual once said...........AWAKE to RIGHTEOUNESS......yes awaken to OUR LORD
and SIN NOT......................man , by grace paul knew the real gospel
as did peter, john , james............and others........
For once we were dead in sins....................
then we lived in sin, we were free FROM RIGHTEOUNESS,
but we had not fruit.......
NO , NO my peoples AWAKE from the dead to the new LIFE
whereby the LIGHT of CHRIST shines for all who have faith..............
People often ask me............why I have such real peace and happiness
HIS LAW is spiritual and on my heart and happy is the man who does HIS sayings
for I KNOW his law is spiritual.................whereby I don't earn my salvation
I JUST LIVE the NEW LIFE .......................not earned.....BUT DEFINTELY LIVED.
what FREEDOM..........
I was once so lost in the depths of sin, by which my carnal mind could have never
found the way out of that captivity................yes, I was slave to sin........
BUT , then one day........instead of the sentence of death i deserved
for the pig in the mire i was........
IT WAS GRACE..............GOD saving , life changing , Grace......
HE drew me to the SON...............and i am free , my goodness i am free
for i have HOPE, real HOPE in HIM...........
i gotta say................he changed a wicked pig in the mire , like me
the absolute vilest of men..........HE DOES DESIRE NONE TO PERISH
IF ONLY............OH i pray if only they COME to the SON and have real faith
IN HIM, not in ourselves.............BUT IN HIM and BY the power of HIS grace
TO BE REAL OVERCOMERS...................OVERCOME that sin............IN THE LORD
HE is the one to be praised.........................OH sing it , sing my brethren sing

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

QUOTE=] .... only groups of persecuted believers around the world in every country that follow Jesus wherever He goes, every day, subjecting every part of their life to Him as it is written in His Word).

I did see a while back (year(s) ago) online that an (apparently) Waldensian representative gave up the faith in Jesus, or never had it in the first place, in order to receive money or worldly approval or whatever.[/QUOTE

Suffice it to say that virtually all of the churches have made compromises since the days of the 1st Century Christians, especially in terms of accepting divorce and remarriage.

Yes, although 'suffice it to say' is just one of many things not held to in God's Word - it is one of many obvious things
people do not seek to please God any more today, and frequently since the first century as you noted.

We need to be asking ourselves if we are finding it impossible to live in The Way, why is it so? Because HE calls us to holiness and without being holy, there will be no seeing God or walking in the Kingdom.

Without being able to 'place the blame', as if we are not all guilty,
much is because there is little good Scriptural discipleship anywhere - perhaps it has been replaced with "bless me" groups that care not at all for the cost of discipleship and truth.

The doctrines of man have crept into 'church' and twisted scripture to fit man's ways that are weak and powerless against sin. True believers will pound on heavens door seeking HIM and the power promised in the Gospel...or else there is no belief in The Promises of God, is there?

Indeed.

 

[frienden thalord]

and now we KNOW WHY paul said.......the holy scriptures, which are able to make one WISE
unto salvation through faith in CHRIST
the doctrines of today stinks of the mix real bad.
I found out real quick something.
as I read the bible by grace, I found the truth in those pages so edifying
so pleasant to the taste................
I soon tried visting churches..........you know what , the people did not run me off
they showed kindness..............but what they listened to ....................
left me empty and depressed...........I mean just empty inside..........
the doctrine stunk .
as for the remarriage thing.....they have destroyed it ...........
BUT let me ask....................IS it possible
to not remarry , to OBEY JESUS , and have all the peace and joy
of just keeping faithful to that ..........
do we know anyone who has been faithful and not remarried........
SURE we do
I have not remarried, been single celibate for well over a decade
EVERY promise JESUS said IS TRUE, man is the liar, GOD IS TRUE.
and how I warn about remarriage........and how it falls on deaf ears
and yet , not a one of them who has remarried
has the peace and joy I have
and not only that.......they twist other scriptures unto their own destruction.
ME ......I am happy...............for HAPPY IS THE ONE WHO DOES MY SAYINGS.................

 

[frienden thalord]

IS IT POSSIBLE to walk as CHRIST
IF we , our faith and trust is in HIM
then we by the POWER of Grace DO have the abilty.
the early church seemed to KNOW it was not an elective to try and walk like
CHRIST.................they seemed to KNOW it was possible
in fact..................it was HOW one truly knew they were truly OF HIM.
my little children, if we say he abides in us
WE WALK LIKE HE DID.......................
many more scrips I could bring ..........but let us bask in the ambience of that one line
for a while ....................................
okay one more line
AND THOSE who are CHRISTS have CRUCIFIED the affections and lusts of the flesh.
bask in that one TOO.......
okay one more line
IF we follow the SPIRIT , we shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.
NOW BASK in the pure sweet aroma of truth................................

 

[frienden thalord]

bask in it my peoples , bask
FOR I say unto one and unto all
that ALL THINGS are possible in CHRIST ..............if we BELEIVE ..............
if we BELEIVE in HIM
if ........................we ........................truly ................believe..................
SO REJOCE LAMBS REJIOCE..................
tis why I preach the true Grace of GOD.............so as man can KNOW
for I say to all.....
that the GRACE of GOD , that does bring salvation has appeared to all
TEACHING US............oh yes GRACE TEACHES US
to deny all ungodliness and wordly lusts
to be living righteously , soberly, and godly in this present world
FOR as peter said also...
FOR IT is HE in you working that which is well pleasing in HIS SIGHT
amen...............THAT IS THE TRUE GOSPLE and MUST be PREACHED
so as men KNOW and believe in the TRUE JESUS the TRUE GOSPLE
and wont be left in darkness by mens gospels and their version of jesus..........
PREACH THE TRUE CHRIST and HIM CRUCIFIED..............
not Christ and the give me give me WORLD
NOW SING peoples we DO have HOPE, if our HOPE is in HIM amen............

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The problem is introduced when people try to substitute their own judgment, wishes, and desires for the Word of God.

Yes,
or likewise, they accept someone else's ....
in place of (instead of) God's Word.