CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

[Original Happy Camper]

Sorry - being a simple man I take Jesus at his word - that He (As God) does not know.

Again let me quote -

Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Jesus is God, but the Holy Spirit inspired the text to say that Jesus does not know, only the Father. Good enough for me, and please don't put words in my mouth to say that I have asserted that Jesus is not God.

1 John 3:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

 

[CharvelGuy]

1 John 3:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

And how does that relate to the simple scripture that says Jesus does not know?

 

[Original Happy Camper]

And how does that relate to the simple scripture that says Jesus does not know?

You also posted "Jesus is God" which I agree with you

Which verse is misunderstood, the Son (Jesus) does not know or that GOD knoweth all things

 

[CharvelGuy]

You also posted "Jesus is God" which I agree with you

Which verse is misunderstood, the Son (Jesus) does not know or that GOD knoweth all things

Please respond to the verse in the BIBLE where it says that Jesus does not know, not my opinion.

If the Father chooses to limit Jesus' knowledge about the date then it does NOT make Jesus "less than God".

I think you are letting your thoughts and dogma get in the way of scripture.

The Holy Spirit inspired scripture to say that -

The Father is God.
Jesus is equally God.
The Holy Spirit is God.

All are equal.

But Christ has agreed with the Holy Spirit and the Father not to know the date.

YOU are jumping to the conclusion that this makes Jesus "less than God". It does not - it is a limiting - deliberate - of Christ's knowledge - NOT His Divine nature.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Please respond to the verse in the BIBLE where it says that Jesus does not know, not my opinion.

I did in this thread but will post it again please read it especially what it says about Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2


Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

If the text proves that men will know nothing of the period of the second advent, it also proves that angels will know nothing of it, and also that the Son will know nothing of it, till the event takes place! This position proves too much, therefore proves nothing to the point. Christ will know of the period of His second advent to this world. The holy angels who wait around the throne of Heaven to receive messages relative to the part they act in the salvation of men, will know of the time of this closing event of salvation. And so will the waiting, watching people of God understand. An old English version of the passage reads, "But that day and hour no man maketh known, neither the angels which are in Heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." This is the correct reading, according to several of the ablest critics of the age. The word know is used in the same sense here that it is by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:2: "For I determined not to know (make known) anything among you, save Jesus Christ and Him crucified." Men will not make known the day and hour, angels will not make it known, neither will the Son, but the Father will make it known.
Day and the Hour James White

The above bold line makes sense seeing how Jesus (the Son) is all knowing and is GOD

 

[CharvelGuy]

Jeepers Creepers....I'm getting really down about all of this. Wondering how the "world" would watch this thread....don't see much love here. I'm calling time out out on any further replies from myself...too much clanging going on thanks

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Jeepers Creepers....I'm getting really down about all of this. Wondering how the "world" would watch this thread....don't see much love here. I'm calling time out out on any further replies from myself...too much clanging going on thanks

Sorry to see you go come back soon

God Bless you in your search for the truth

 

[mlepfitjw]

CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

My belief would say that the spirit of the Lord is with-in you.

(2 Corinthians 3:17-18)(Whole chapter talks about how the Spirit of the Lord brings freedom, over the obligations of Moses because the Pharisees at the time were denying such things where true, and many failed to see freedom in the spirit over the outlooking material rather than the inward heart and loving God, and loving others.

Why would you wait when you can have a relationship with God and Learn about Jesus if you wanted to today.\ freely anytime./

 

[Saint Steven]

CHRIST RETURNS IN 2030?

My belief would say that the spirit of the Lord is with-in you.

(2 Corinthians 3:17-18)(Whole chapter talks about how the Spirit of the Lord brings freedom, over the obligations of Moses because the Pharisees at the time were denying such things where true, and many failed to see freedom in the spirit over the outlooking material rather than the inward heart and loving God, and loving others.

Why would you wait when you can have a relationship with God and Learn about Jesus if you wanted to today.\ freely anytime./

No need to holler. - lol
Does that mean you don't believe in the Second Coming?

 

[Blade]

Ok till "Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this," can't we just disagree? I am amazed how you got all this with out really touching the OT. All most impossible to do no offense. There is a time limit on all this and if God has the only authority on this and Christ does not know then all this is nothing more then speculation. No man will glory in His sight. This was is always will be about Israel. Leaving out this key is unwise. And whos calendar are we doing by?

To the one no Sunday is not the mark of the beast. The word clearly says those that are written in the Lambs book will never worship the beast. Gotta worship the beast 1st then get the mark the number of his name.

And Steven the Covid-19... nothing has changed. What I mean is under Obama they printed money over and over and thats all they can do now. Helping other nations is awesome but.. in a time like this $600 does nothing when you just lost everything and all those people that worked for you counted on you have nothing coming in.

We are in this world...we have been given ALL authority power over the enemy (not man) and should stand against and not receive when some say "our darkest day is not behind us but before us". I do not receive this I rebuke it in Jesus name. Search the word on how GOD treated Israel when they lied cheated about a leader. God would not hear them nor bless them. That goes for the USA also.

OP I have for 20+ years told lol Rapture sites that this could last another second or 30 more years and still be inline with the word of God. I wanna go Home but.. its not my creation and I didn't die for the world that He loves so much. Praise GOD many are blind if you were blind you would have no sin you say you see your sin remains.

 

[DamianWarS]

Damian, thanks for the input, but I think your mind is in overtime. Take Peter's scripture and apply it as the Bible tells us. Now, how many days has it been since our Beloved died and resurrected? Two days.

My point is that I broadly agree but I don't think it's going to follow an exact round number as we so desire it to be. Christ will return on the third day but 2030 or 2035 may pass and it still may be true.

 

[Yoko.52]

There is something to that.

On the other hand, I see big Pharma and the medical industry profiteering from this. Do a search on "Robert Kennedy Jr. vaccine" for a real eye-opener. Ironically, in 1986 big Pharma was granted legal immunity for all vaccines. (the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986) Since then the number of vaccines the medical industry is administering has sky rocketed. Robert Kennedy Jr. was originally drawn into the debate due to his work against mercury poisoning in the environment. Someone asked him why he wasn't doing anything about the mercury in vaccines. (say what?) So it began. Wow, what a story he has to tell. I watched the presentation on London Real. He is hard to listen to. (speech problems) I put my headphones down and read the subtitles. Mind blowing information. I had always wondered why there are so many new diseases. It seems that these things are being engineered. The longer we live with disease, the more money they make.

The London Real presentation was banned by YouTube. But still lives on their own platform. (sort of) Here's the link. These are clips from the longer interview.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - My Fight Against Mandatory Vaccinations, Big Pharma, And Dr. Fauci - Digital Freedom Platform

Yeah I've seen some of those reports and research them and many of them were false. Yeah they're in there to make money it's a business. But giving out bad medicine would cause them to lose business. People like to believe that all governments and big pharma and everybody in charge is out there to screw them over. When things are going bad they're there for people to blame. Someone gets lung cancer and they blame cigarettes when they should be blaming themselves. They have been warning about cigarettes over 70 years now. Or someone else gets cancer who's never smoked and they don't stop to think about the chemicals we pump into the environment on a daily basis that help cause cancer. Many of the diseases today are caused by what's in our food. A lot of our diseases and stuff started becoming an issue when people's diets changed with the influx of sugar and additives put in our food. It's funny I was doing some research on the Middle ages. Did you know back then things like diabetes were not an issue. Amazingly enough didn't have much of problem with bad teeth as well. a lot of the diseases we got going around now weren't an issue back then it was because their diets were different. Sugar was for the rich if you wanted sweetener you used honey. There was no processed food. The big worried disease is back then were things like plague and we've exterminated that particular disease. I think it was back in the 70s when they went on their little quest to exterminate that disease. I believe it took nearly every medical organization on the planet to do that. It's amazing what humanity can accomplish when it is willing to work together. People talk about things like socialism and communism is evil and really what they are is everybody working together towards the coming good. What they doing in China is not communism what they did in Russia was not communism or socialism. It was then and it still is now a dictatorship. You can dress it up and call it pretty names like socialism or communism are here in the United States where we have Donald Trump trying to become king of America and turn democracy into his own dictatorship.

 

[Yoko.52]

delete please i believe this response would fall into flaming so i removed it

 

[Gregory Thompson]

In a posting, I recently asked opinions on what calendar year people thought Christ was crucified. The answers varied slightly, but the general consensus was between 25 and 35 AD. For the purposes of this post then, let's say it was 30 AD. If so, should that mean anything for us today? Is there a Biblical connection, some Scripture we could look to which might explain when, at the time appointed, He would return to earth, when His second Advent might be?

Scripture quotes Him saying, Behold, I have foretold you all things. Mark 13:23. An all encompassing statement like that could surely include when He would return, right? Yes, but my belief is we are tasked with finding where or how, in the Holy Bible, that ultimate mystery might be revealed; for it is also written we are not to know the time or the season of His return. Then again, we are expected to search the Scriptures, to study to show ourselves approved. Is this simply a test for us?

Let me put it this way; Our Father, our Lord and the Holy Spirit may want to see, by our actions, how much interest we really have in His Word, in every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. That said, let's get back on topic; does the Bible tell us when we should expect to see our Lord? Try this, for I wouldn't want anyone to be ignorant of where to look. Did the Apostle Peter gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind?

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 11 Peter 3:8. This could be the Holy Spirit's way of saying, "Sharpen up kids, this is important!" And that is why I asked for opinions on when Christ was crucified. Two days ago, 2,000 years ago, the date was 20 AD. Today, we are now finishing 2020 AD. Humm.

Is it remotely possible, using the Holy Bible as the ultimate Reference Book, that Christ would be returning in 10 years, in 2030 AD? The atheists, even weak Christians, would say, "The man is mad! Don't listen to him, no one knows the exact date." That's true, but these are Scriptures we should consider; our Lord Jesus certainly would not want us to be ignorant of something He considered important, would He? Let's go deeper.

If our Beloved was crucified and resurrected in 30 AD then He would be gone from us for precisely 2 days in 2030 AD. Then what, what happens as we begin the 3rd day? The third day I shall be perfected the Lord told us in Luke 13:32. In Mark He said, After that He is killed, He shall rise the third day, and again in Mark, And the third day He shall rise again. Matthew tells us, The third day He shall be raised again, and also, And be raised again the third day.

It is commonly thought, and taught, and preached, the Scriptures were talking about 24 hour days here, and of course, they were. But what if the Holy Spirit wanted to teach us on several levels of understanding? Well, surely we would have known, something this profound could not be hidden for 2,000 years, could it?

And they shall scourge Him, and put Him to death: and the third day He shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:32

Am I safe in saying that all wisdom comes from God? Consider this: if the LORD doesn't want us to know something we won't know, until He deems it the appointed time to tell us. Actually, it may surprise many to know the LORD did tell us when to expect the return of His Son in the OLD Testament.

Come, and let us return onto the LORD: for He hath torn, and He will heal us; He hath smitten, and He will bind us up. After two days will He revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight. Hosea 6:1

How about that, we are going to get raised up when the third day begins! Now the scoffers and mockers will have a field day with this, so I'm not proclaiming the Lord's return on 2030. The two days might be finished on 2025 which would only leave us 5 years to end this flesh age. It might be 2035, which means we still have 15 years to get right with the LORD. Get right with the LORD, what does that mean?

Well, let's say we consider ourselves to be a righteous person, a person who always tries to do the right thing before the LORD, and before our fellow human beings. We need to make sure we stay that way, to be steadfast in our righteousness until this earth age is over. Put another way, let's keep the LORD happy with us.

If we are a wicked person, we need to repent, change our ways, and ask the LORD for His forgiveness; to wash away our sins with the blood of Jesus Christ. See, simple, we have a very loving Father Who is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 11Peter 3:9

That's it. Like king Jehoahaz, I hope we get the 15 years, I think our generation is going to need it!

In general, the only scripture that speaks of 2000 years specifically is

even if he lives a thousand years twice over but fails to enjoy his prosperity. Do not all go to the same place? (Ecclesiastes 6:6)

Thus the idea that Christ will return after 2000 years is erroneous, the passage is one 6 short of the mark of the beast, was written by Solomon who made 666 gold every year. So in terms of numerology context - it is not sound. However, the prophet of the beast might come by.

However, since the old calendar was 360 days, and it is now 365 - it is unknown when the actual 2000 years would be since when man changed his calendar - and when the stars, sun, and moon actually changed are variant.

 

[mama2one]

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[James Honigman]

Sorry to see you go come back soon

God Bless you in your search for the truth

Well said, Camper. I'll bet he drives on the wrong side of the road too.

 

[James Honigman]

In general, the only scripture that speaks of 2000 years specifically is

even if he lives a thousand years twice over but fails to enjoy his prosperity. Do not all go to the same place? (Ecclesiastes 6:6)

Thus the idea that Christ will return after 2000 years is erroneous, the passage is one 6 short of the mark of the beast, was written by Solomon who made 666 gold every year. So in terms of numerology context - it is not sound. However, the prophet of the beast might come by.

However, since the old calendar was 360 days, and it is now 365 - it is unknown when the actual 2000 years would be since when man changed his calendar - and when the stars, sun, and moon actually changed are variant.

Sorry Michael, but if I agreed with your comment I would have to deny the the Apostle Peter wasn't in agreement with the Holy Spirit when he gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind. I would also have to deny that our Beloved would not rise again on the third day as He assured us He would. By the way, did you know our generation is exactly six days out from Adam's creation, which means the seventh day, the millennial day, is about to begin? Thanks for your comments.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Sorry Michael, but if I agreed with your comment I would have to deny the the Apostle Peter wasn't in agreement with the Holy Spirit when he gave us our Heavenly Father's timetable for mankind. I would also have to deny that our Beloved would not rise again on the third day as He assured us He would. By the way, did you know our generation is exactly six days out from Adam's creation, which means the seventh day, the millennial day, is about to begin? Thanks for your comments.

The beginning of acts indicates that The apostles asked a question to Jesus about restoring the kingdom to Israel, and Jesus responded with a broader answer - stating that the times that the Father has set in His power are not given to you, but with the power of the Holy Spirit preach the gospel to the ends of the earth.

They were provided specifics of the gospel they were supposed to preach, and they did. However, knowing future events was actually one of those things Peter was not given.

In terms of the sixth day, I do notice that the automobile is a metal beast powered by fossil fuels or the substance of dragon's bones - so I see some signs in regards to the sixth day being well under way - visibly and also invisibly.

The seventh day is the rest of God, much like the kingdom of God, not all can enter it.