Chinese engineering technology

[sandwiches]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the assumption that Hitler's entire staff had I.Q.s in the genius range.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I am under the assumption that Hitler's entire staff was a Christian of some kind.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wouldn't it have been much more efficient (i.e. millions of lives spared) if the US simply prohibited Rockefeller from selling oil to the Nazi war machine, assuming we were really interested in saving Europe from becoming "goose-steppers?"

From Wikipedia:

Rockefeller was charged with overseeing a program of US cooperation with the nations of Latin America to help raise the standard of living, to achieve better relations among the nations of the western hemisphere, and to counter rising Nazi influence in the region. His efforts included spreading anti-Axis propaganda to head off Nazi fifth column activity, which was subsequently laughed at and booed by the Latin American population resulting in pro-Axis riots.

SOURCE

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[sandwiches]

If you're going to accuse me of being disingenuous, then I have to ask: You were there?

Seriously, AV. Sometimes you let your lying tongue wag on for too long. You say things laced with venom and when confronted about them, you act like the victim. For a self-professed Christian, you sure have no problem telling straight-faced lies.

 

[AV1611VET]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I am under the assumption that Hitler's entire staff was a Christian of some kind.

I'm under the assumption that [some of] you guys think the Crusades, the Inquisition, and witch hunting is/was a Christian endeavor.

I would assume an atheist cannot tell the difference.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

From Wikipedia:

SOURCE

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So as long as long as you exhibit some semblance of a humane front, it somehow absolves one from the fact they let the pursuit of greed out weigh human life, on the order of millions? Really?

Rockefeller sounds a lot like your god in this instance, the power to eliminate suffering and unnecessary death, but chose not to. The Golden Rule.

 

[sandwiches]

I'm under the assumption that [some of] you guys think the Crusades, the Inquisition, and witch hunting is/was a Christian endeavor.

I would assume an atheist cannot tell the difference.

They claimed they were Christians, they had churches and prayed to your deity, they tithed, claimed they were saved, and condemned others just like you. You definitely quack like those ducks.

 

[AV1611VET]

So as long as long as you exhibit some semblance of a humane front, it somehow absolves one from the fact they let the pursuit of greed out weigh human life, on the order of millions? Really?

I know we're bouncing around the spectrum here, but really, do we have to bring up abor...

Oh, wait -- who did you mean by 'they'?

Rockefeller sounds a lot like your god in this instance, the power to eliminate suffering and unnecessary death, but chose not to. The Golden Rule.

Coming from an atheist, it wouldn't surprise me if you think a volcano is our God.

 

[AV1611VET]

They claimed they were Christians, they had churches and prayed to your deity, they tithed, claimed they were saved, and condemned others just like you. You definitely quack like those ducks.

You're invited to the next Boston Tea Party, chief --

 

[sandwiches]

You're invited to the next Boston Tea Party, chief --

You just leave that up to me!

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

I know we're bouncing around the spectrum here, but really, do we have to bring up abor...

Oh, wait -- who did you mean by 'they'?

Coming from an atheist, it wouldn't surprise me if you think a volcano is our God.

Abortion? It's Christians who believe that babies get an automatic ticket to heaven. According to Christians, they're better off in heaven than having a miserable go of it here on earth. So what's your beef? I mean really, your god allows for genocide, so what's the difference? Why does abortion bother you so much? The bible never mentions it. Are you prepared to take care of unwanted pregnancies? Or are you just an internet theologian, whose convictions stop once you log off CF?

And as far as volcanoes and gods, non-sequitur there Slick.

 

[razeontherock]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I am under the assumption that Hitler's entire staff was a Christian of some kind.

Ok, consider yourself corrected.

 

[razeontherock]

SOURCE

"Rockefeller was charged with overseeing a program of US cooperation with the nations of Latin America to help raise the standard of living"

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Rockefeller helped raise the standard of living, for somebody other than himself? Oh, the horror

 

[razeontherock]

Coming from an atheist, it wouldn't surprise me if you think a volcano is our God.

Trailer Joe Versus the Volcano - YouTube

 

[AV1611VET]

It's Christians who believe that babies get an automatic ticket to heaven.

And abortionists make sure they use it too, don't they?

 

[AV1611VET]

Trailer Joe Versus the Volcano - YouTube

Was that Lloyd Bridges of Sea Hunt in that clip?

ETA: Nevermind -- it was Robert Stack --

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

And abortionists make sure they use it too, don't they?

I'm sure you consider it an irony that atheists place a higher value on human life than Christians do.

Reasonable Faith: question_16_Slaughter_of_the_Canaanites

 

[Nostromo]

And abortionists make sure they use it too, don't they?

Your objection is... what, exactly?

 

[Nostromo]

I'm sure you consider it an irony that atheists place a higher value on human life than Christians do.

Reasonable Faith: question_16_Slaughter_of_the_Canaanites

Interesting read, though I can't imagine that a professor of philosophy would not realise he's committing the fallacy of the inverse (or denying the antecedent) in his justification of the existence of God via objective morality, amongst other things. Intentional deception appears to be ubiquitous in Christian apologetics.

 

[chris4243]

Is there any hint that if empowered China will relax the regulation regarding human gentic engineering and cloning etc. What products and services might we soon (in e.g. 50 years) see on the market?

Disregarding the comments of those who neglected to put AV1611VET on their ignore list, I'd have to say if wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Chinese are already studying human genetic engineering, regardless of what their official or even actual policies are concerning it.

There's work done on human genetic engineering, I think in the US, to correct for genetic diseases. The most impressive I saw was one to restore color vision to the colorblind. With a minor adaptation, it should be possible to allow for people to see in a greater range of colors, which I imagine would be useful to scientists, artists, and perhaps soldiers. This therefore I think will be one of the first genetic enhancements to provide much significance.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm sure you consider it an irony that atheists place a higher value on human life than Christians do.http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5767

When does that life start though? there's the catch!