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Keri

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That's why I posted the link. Considering the media hype about older mothers, one might conclude that most children born to mothers over 35 will have Down syndrome. The reality of the situation, however, is quite different. At 40, the risk is only 1 in 100. Although the likelihood increases, DS remains unlikely. Even at 50, when the incidence is closer to 1 in 10, the overwhelming majority of babies are born without the condition. It's more likely that an older woman will simply become infertile.

That said, I'd be curious to learn how the risk varies when accounting for things like lifestyle etc. I'd imagine that certain demographics of older mothers are at greater risk than others. Especially considering the cumulative effects of junk food, sedentary lifestyles, and other risk factors over time.

I never said most children, I simply stated that the risk does increase (a statement that you confirmed). And that was in my response to Sharon's post.
 
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I never said most children, I simply stated that the risk does increase (a statement that you confirmed). And that was in my response to Sharon's post.

Sorry if it sounded like I was implying that you did. I'll admit to using your reply as more of a springboard for what I wanted to say. That could have been handled better on my part, but at least we agree on the facts. :sorry: :thumbsup:

On a side note, that is one of my more unusual emoticon combinations. Hopefully, it communicates what I'm trying to convey. ^_^
 
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My 'it's all crap' view on the risks in childbearing at an older age is because of how little it does happen in comparison to all the normal, healthy pregnancies. I actually had heard that about the Down Syndrome but had forgotten about it, I can't remember who had told me about it now...?

So yes, the risks are there, but certainly not on the grand scale that doctors and the media say. But, even if the risks were as great as they say, that would never be deterrent for me, nor for anyone I know who wants children or still has a growing family. Whether your young or old, if God chooses to give you a child with DS or any other problem, then that's that. It was clearly meant to be. I have a cousin with three children who is still in her twenties and her oldest child is DS. Also, one of my sisters, who is in her twenties as well, suffered a miscarriage last year.

So bottom line here is this: Whether you're 25 or 45, the risk of a problem occurring during pregnancy or bearing a child with a health problem is there. We'll never fully escape such risks.
 
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I knew some women who were pregnant when they were 50 and had healthy babies. One of them even had twins.

It turns out that if you can still get pregnant by the time you're 50 years old, that means you have greater chance to live up to 100.
 
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I have two children and wish I had more (although not with the same woman). I am forty now and would love to have more children. It gets riskier the older you get for a woman to have children. I am not sure if it makes a difference for a man though.
 
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I have two children and wish I had more (although not with the same woman). I am forty now and would love to have more children. It gets riskier the older you get for a woman to have children. I am not sure if it makes a difference for a man though.

Men are not immune to the pitfalls of fertility either....

Older Dads Linked to Kids' Genetic Risk for Autism and Schizophrenia | TIME.com

And sperm does age....

Study: Sperm gets worse with age - Health - Men's health | NBC News
 
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Although it seems plausible that there would be differences, those particular studies don't seem adequate to me. The second article wins a point for including the word "Can" in the actual title, although curiously not the link, but still. Correlation isn't causation, other factors should be accounted for, even the increase in autism itself is considered controversial by some, along with a few other things just don't add up. For instance, although men may be delaying fatherhood, male fertility has historically been limited by the woman's. Also, a man's body doesn't change when his wife gives birth, so age at first conception should be irrelevant. The autism link is dubious for similar reasons, along with the fact that we now have a spectrum that includes people who weren't traditionally diagnosed with autism in the past. Then again, as I think is the case women and DS, an increase in autism may be due to a variety of factors. Put enough people on new drugs and whatnot, keep them on that regimen for a few years, and they're bound to skew results within a range that might be considered statistically significant yet not necessarily pertain to most. We're obviously not immortal, but painting with such a broad brush seems overly simplistic to me. Along with the fact that our lifestyles and genetic histories vary, the vast majority of fertile men and women of any age still give birth to healthy babies. Until we can perform Gattaca-style DNA analysis, perhaps in conjunction with sufficiently sophisticated computer models, the most accurate prediction of one's genetic predispositions is likely found in one's own family tree and personal history.

As far as the mutations referred to in the first study, I wonder what role they may play in the steady increase of measured intelligence and lifespan. Then again, as with potentially deleterious outcomes, such changes might be attributable to new medications, novel technologies etc.
 
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I've already got mine :) I had him young, got pregnant at 22. Don't want anymore. I love kids and babies, but one is enough for me!

And people, don't be all panicked and stuff about having kids when you're 30+. My dad was 50 when I was born. I had a co-worker who had a baby at 36. Stop worrying and let God bless you when it's the right time!
 
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I've already got mine :) I had him young, got pregnant at 22. Don't want anymore. I love kids and babies, but one is enough for me!

And people, don't be all panicked and stuff about having kids when you're 30+. My dad was 50 when I was born. I had a co-worker who had a baby at 36. Stop worrying and let God bless you when it's the right time!

YES :thumbsup:
 
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I wouldn't mind biological offspring but I'm not sure I want to carry and birth them.

That sounds insensitive. :sorry:
It's not. It's just a bit complicated to describe and my brain isn't working at the moment.

I'll be your surrogate! I absolutely loved being pregnant & going through labor/delivery.
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And to answer OPs question: I already have one from my exhusband. And I would love yo have another. However that will depend upon who I marry. He may already have one or more and then our family might be complete. There are a lot of variables.
 
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I'll be your surrogate! I absolutely loved being pregnant & going through labor/delivery.
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And to answer OPs question: I already have one from my exhusband. And I would love yo have another. However that will depend upon who I marry. He may already have one or more and then our family might be complete. There are a lot of variables.
And he is incredibly adorable I might add! But that goes without saying :D
 
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If it's God's will for me to have children, I want them sooner rather than later.

And I'm not into the modern day one-and-a-half-kid American family. I have always thought homes with lots of children felt alive and secure, so I want as many as God will give me (I would hope at least three or four).
 
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