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Child molesters are wrong

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i am a very strong catholic but feels very confused again

i was having a debate in house group the otehr night and one boy called Will said that it was wrong to kill child molesters but I thinks it right becasue they destroy the persons life forever so theres should get taken away from them and sent to Hell straight away.

What do you think?
 

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Well, I'd say if our country were based on Mosaic law, then that would be a possibility. However, Jesus set up a new system when He spoke the two greatest commandments. If we are to love our neighbor as ourself, do we not give these people a chance at conversion?

God said that vengence is His. Right now, we don't have a death penalty for pedophilia. While it's definitely wrong, I'm not sure we should seek to have a death penalty for it.

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i am a very strong catholic but feels very confused again

i was having a debate in house group the otehr night and one boy called Will said that it was wrong to kill child molesters but I thinks it right becasue they destroy the persons life forever so theres should get taken away from them and sent to Hell straight away.

What do you think?

The child's life, if it was destroyed, will still be just as destroyed regardless of what happens to the criminal, and I'm not a proponent of doing things for revenge. I'm not a Christian, but I get the impression that it's a view of Christianity that everyone screws up. Some worse than others, and some in ways that hurt people for a long time, but everyone can change. The molestor needs help and healing just as much as the victim.
 
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What if the child molestor was molested as a child, causing him to grow up to the man he is today? You must take into account that every action has its reason, every person has his history. Revenge is an irrational feeling. Punishment is to prevent future harm from the person being punished and other people who might get the same idea if it were not for the punishment. Punishment is not to "get even".
 
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i am a very strong catholic but feels very confused again

i was having a debate in house group the otehr night and one boy called Will said that it was wrong to kill child molesters but I thinks it right becasue they destroy the persons life forever so theres should get taken away from them and sent to Hell straight away.

What do you think?

You are Catholic and the Catholic Church's position on the death penalty is quite clear. The death penalty should not be used unless circumstances are such that society cannot otherwise be protected from the offender. Since we have prisons, the Church would not consider the death penalty acceptable in that case.
 
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Aquinas states:

"As stated above (1), it is lawful to kill dumb animals, in so far as they are naturally directed to man's use, as the imperfect is directed to the perfect. Now every part is directed to the whole, as imperfect to perfect, wherefore every part is naturally for the sake of the whole. For this reason we observe that if the health of the whole body demands the excision of a member, through its being decayed or infectious to the other members, it will be both praiseworthy and advantageous to have it cut away. Now every individual person is compared to the whole community, as part to whole. Therefore if a man be dangerous and infectious to the community, on account of some sin, it is praiseworthy and advantageous that he be killed in order to safeguard the common good, since "a little leaven corrupteth the whole lump""

An execution is a serious thing indeed. It is not always forbidden, but it should not be a common thing. And it is not justified just through the sin of a person; after all we are all sinners. It is not justified even through a gravely serious sin; because no one is beyond the hope of redemption. Rather, it becomes justified when it is necessary to protect the common good of the community; and even then only when it is administered by someone who has been granted care of that common good (i.e. no vigilante killings.)

Now the situation is complex, because there are questions over when killing is the only way to protect the community, who really has the care of the common good and so forth. But I would think that in most cases it would be better to imprision child molesters than to kill them.
 
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We must never desire anyone's damnation. That is what love demands from us.
If we truly love God, we recognize in each human being His image, and thus we love each human being, not because of themselves, but because of God.

We must have asbolute love for everyone: desire their salvation, their absolute good.
But we needn't have relative love for everyone: that is, desire that they should possess relative goods, such as wealth, health or even life.

To desire the death of a child molester (provided it is within the accepted legal framework of society, and not an act of personal revenge) can be a good thing. Afterall, the criminal certainly deserves the maximum punishment society can give him, and on top of that he is a great danger to the rest of society.

But never forget of the absolute love: our desire must be that even this child molester about to be executed should repent of his crimes and turn to God, thus avoiding eternal suffering in Hell and finding peace after his life is terminated.
 
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i am a very strong catholic but feels very confused again

i was having a debate in house group the otehr night and one boy called Will said that it was wrong to kill child molesters but I thinks it right becasue they destroy the persons life forever so theres should get taken away from them and sent to Hell straight away.

What do you think?
I fail to see how any of your conclusions follow.
I guess if I were a catholic I would think that it´s God´s job to judge people and take away or leave them their lives, and not up to me to decide that.
 
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