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I said His chief glory is His love. If His combined attributes didn't include love, then not only would He be less glorious, but He'd be of little benefit to His creation. What makes Him glorious, lovable, is His infinite, ineffable goodness, His love.You are still putting one attribute above others, and above His glory. He’s singular, and not the sum of His parts.
So you think one attribute is greater than His combined attributes? A part is greater than the whole?I said His chief glory is His love. If His combined attributes didn't include love, then not only would He be less glorious, but He'd be of little benefit to His creation. What makes Him glorious, lovable, is His infinite, ineffable goodness, His love.
No, I think that without that one attribute the others would be inadequate to make Him truly glorious. John emphasized the point that God is love as that attribute became known to him in definitive and emphatic and personal terms with the revelation of Christ. And even though he did name that attribute exclusively, he wasn't denying the others. Either way love lies at the very heart and soul of the Christian faith. It makes Christianity distinctively supreme.So you think one attribute is greater than His combined attributes? A part is greater than the whole?
Without any one attribute, He would be inadequate to be truly glorious. You keep trying to break Him into parts and making one greater than the whole.No, I think that without that one attribute the others would be inadequate to make Him truly glorious. John emphasized the point that God is love as that attribute became known to him in definitive and emphatic and personal terms with the revelation of Christ. And even though he did name that attribute exclusively, he wasn't denying the others. Either way love lies at the very heart and soul of the Christian faith. It makes Christianity distinctively supreme.
Maybe. But the truly glorious Christians I know, for example, are the ones who love well, even if limited in power, intelligence, knowledge, etc. Anyway, love is our end which is why the greatest commandments are what they are and which is directly connected to the fact that God, who is our end, is love. Love calling and enabling us to love.Without any one attribute, He would be inadequate to be truly glorious. You keep trying to break Him into parts and making one greater than the whole.
And we do all of that for…wait for it…the glory of God.Maybe. But the truly glorious Christians I know, for example, are the ones who love well, even if limited in power, intelligence, knowledge, etc. Anyway, love is our end which is why the greatest commandments are what they are and which is directly connected to the fact that God, who is our end, is love. Love calling and enabling us to love.
That makes it an analogy.Two different things.
Does winning a thing = earning some the thing?Actually, accepting the money does mean you’ve earned it and deserved it based on the conditions of the lottery.
OK, the previous analogy was poor for you and this one is what I was trying to convey, drop the word "lottery".That’s not a lottery.
Yeah, still not a lottery.
The Greek meaning of the Greek word does not have a singular English word, so translators do their best to match in context the best English word or words.True. That doesn’t change the meaning, though.
And yet His real glory is in wanting to glorify...wait for it...others, to glorify us. Because that's the nature of love, to share in its goodness.And we do all of that for…wait for it…the glory of God.
Not when the comparison isn’t the same.That makes it an analogy.
No.Does winning a thing = earning some the thing?
How does that help?OK, the previous analogy was poor for you and this one is what I was trying to convey, drop the word "lottery".
Right. And it doesn’t change the meaning.The Greek meaning of the Greek word does not have a singular English word, so translators do their best to match in context the best English word or words.
Both the same.God saving sinners is more glorious than casting sinners off to hell
No!!!! God would never put our glory above His. That’s bordering on blasphemy.And yet His real glory is in wanting to glorify...wait for it...others, to glorify us. Because that's the nature of love, to share in its goodness.
No!!! I didn't say He puts our glory before His. But, again, the nature of love is to glorify the other-which is His very purpose in creating us, to produce something much better/higher than sinful vermin!!! And He wants this because He is love.No!!!! God would never put our glory above His. That’s bordering on blasphemy.
FOR HIS GLORY!No!!! I didn't say He puts our glory before His. But, again, the nature of love is to glorify the other-which is His very purpose in creating us, to produce something much better/higher than sinful vermin!!! And He wants this because He is love.
Do you believe that God's justice and wrath as expressed by the eternal commitment of the vast majority of humanity to the lake of fire which burns forever and ever is motivated by unconditional love?Everything God does is motivated by love. Grace is that love moving or acting in the world, associated with the work of the Holy Spirit. His wrath is only righteous anger-always intended for the ultimate good of His world.
I am not trying to describe a "lottery", but a made-up Spiritual type lottery like what the kingdom is like. Calling it a "lottery" might be hard for you, but some of Jesus' parables are not meant to be exact replications of what happens on earth, but to show what the Kingdom is like, with an earthly story.Not when the comparison isn’t the same.
No.
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