chicken or the egg

[Fr0st]

am i right to assume that the phrase "what came first, the chicken or the egg" relates to evolution vs creation?

if the egg came first it was evolution, because the reptile chicken had a modern day chicken egg
if the chicken came first, god created it....

this is just what i always thought...

 

[Dayton]

The chicken came first. God Created the earth and all living creatures fully mature.

 

[Truncate]

am i right to assume that the phrase "what came first, the chicken or the egg" relates to evolution vs creation?

if the egg came first it was evolution, because the reptile chicken had a modern day chicken egg
if the chicken came first, god created it....

this is just what i always thought...

Yes. The egg was around long before chickens.

 

[revolutio]

Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwhich came first.

MMmmmmmm...

 

[Philosoft]

God Created the earth and all living creatures fully mature.

Except people. He forgot to give us the ability to distinguish good from evil, that silly goose (fully mature, of course).

 

[moerunamida]

Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwhich came first.

MMmmmmmm...
~~~~
LoL, amen to that.
Definatly the chicken

~Mandie

 

[Truncate]

What about reptiles (such as dinosaurs), amphibians? Don't they lay eggs? Were they not in existance further back in the past than chickens?

 

[Aceldama]

am i right to assume that the phrase "what came first, the chicken or the egg" relates to evolution vs creation?

if the egg came first it was evolution, because the reptile chicken had a modern day chicken egg
if the chicken came first, god created it....

this is just what i always thought...

The chicken egg came before the chicken. Although it was laid by a creature that didn't quite fit the description of chicken.

Imagine a spectrum...Red is the creature that fits the description of chicken. The creature that laid the first chicken egg will be just before THEE red that is the chicken and will be right at the end of the orangey reddy orangey part of the spectrum.

 

[lucaspa]

am i right to assume that the phrase "what came first, the chicken or the egg" relates to evolution vs creation?

if the egg came first it was evolution, because the reptile chicken had a modern day chicken egg
if the chicken came first, god created it....

this is just what i always thought...

No. "Nature does not take leaps" said Charles Darwin. So "the reptile chicen had a modern day chicken egg" is not evolution because it is a huge leap.

In fact, this misconception is often stated by creationists as "a reptile laid an egg and out came a chicken" to supposedly show how ridiculous evolution is.

 

[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

No. "Nature does not take leaps" said Charles Darwin. So "the reptile chicen had a modern day chicken egg" is not evolution because it is a huge leap.

In fact, this misconception is often stated by creationists as "a reptile laid an egg and out came a chicken" to supposedly show how ridiculous evolution is.

Isn't that the usual mis-statement (i.e. outright lie) used by creationists to attack punk-eek?

 

[Mainframes]

I think the original idea of the phrase 'Which came first the chicken or the egg?' was meant to just indicate an apparent paradox.


There are two ways of looking at the problem:

1) That the 'egg' in any form came way before the chicken, in that fish, amphibians and reptiles all lay eggs and they all certainly came before the chicken.

2) That a creature minutely different to the chicken laid an egg which contained a creature that had slightly mutated from it's parents to become what today would be classified a chicken.

And no stupid comments about reptiles becoming chickens because a chicken would have mutated from another type of bird.

 

[Jet Black]

to misquote Mrs Beeton's family cookbook:

first define a chicken.

 

[Supanova]

What about reptiles (such as dinosaurs), amphibians? Don't they lay eggs? Were they not in existance further back in the past than chickens?

Nope, I'm a creationist therefore they were all around together... and the chicken was definitely before the egg.

 

[goat37]

And no stupid comments about reptiles becoming chickens because a chicken would have mutated from another type of bird.

Where do you think birds came from? I am not saying that it is 100% a reptile, but birds were not around 250 million years ago.. thus birds must have come from non-birds. Whatever it came from though, most likely had teeth. Birds have the genes used to create teeth.

 

[Philosoft]

Nope, I'm a creationist therefore they were all around together...

Is that your final answer? You still have one lifeline - ask the fossil record...

 

[Truncate]

Is that your final answer? You still have one lifeline - ask the fossil record...

Hehe, but seriously; a person can not state "I [believe something is a certain way] therefore it is that way."

 

[jayswife29]

Why cant people state what they believe and have it be that way? Because some don't agree with the idea that we came from a rock floating around billions of years ago? I believe in creation just the way it's written, same as many believe in Darwinism just the way that is written. Maybe the first chicken was carrying the first egg.

 

[bagfullofsnakes]

Why cant people state what they believe and have it be that way?

Because reality is not beholden to conform to your beliefs. If you believe the earth is flat, it doesn't mean the earth really is flat.

Of course, your beliefs are not beholden to conform to reality either, so I guess it evens out...

 

[vajradhara]

Why cant people state what they believe and have it be that way? Because some don't agree with the idea that we came from a rock floating around billions of years ago? I believe in creation just the way it's written, same as many believe in Darwinism just the way that is written. Maybe the first chicken was carrying the first egg.

Namaste,

actually, i think it's just that way for most folks... however, that doesn't mean that they are correct.

by that logic, me saying that i believe Barney the Dinosaur is Prsesident of the Ukraine would make that so. now... i'm not saying that it is or isn't so, however, by simply asserting my belief it in no way indicates the correct nature of the issue.

 

[jayswife29]

I was just saying that people who dont believe in creation are entitled to their opinion, same as I am. But just because some believe that we came from a rock doesnt mean I have to take their word for it, anymore than they have to take mine. Some say since we can't "prove" creation or God then it isn't so, why? Thats their belief. My belief is based on faith, can I prove faith? No. Can I prove Barney the dinosaur isn't the president of Ukraine? Probably.