Checkmate, Atheists

[joshua 1 9]

God is not bound by our laws.

Jesus, as the man, may have been begotten; but Jesus, as the God, wasn't.

He was the Word of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Or did you meant the person to be God?

The Person I am hinting at is God, the First/Second/Third Person of the Godhead.

Thus, the answer to the OP is: God.

 

[SkyWriting]

AV you know, as well as me, it is explain in detail in biology textbooks under the title "reproduction" how people are "created" - the short version is; cells makes more cells. The Stork Theory, and every other attempt to explain people as "created" beings, are dead AV. Or did you meant the person to be God? IF so, then the answer might be imagination. And we have good reason to think imagination is the case as well. Is there any factual evidence you like to present that shows how a person can exists without have been "manufactured" in some way? If not, I have hard to see what this kind of theological investigations has to do with life-science and evolution.

The "cells make cells"...tells us that God created first.

 

[SkyWriting]

Checkmate?! What are you playing, pigeon chess?"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon -- it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." --- S. D. Weitzenhoffer

Amazing who people quote and admire.

 

[Gracchus]

Checkmate?! What are you playing, pigeon chess?

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon -- it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." --- S. D. Weitzenhoffer

Amazing who people quote and admire.

I really know nothing about Mr. Weitzenhoffer, so it would not be accurate to say I admire him. I could quote a Christian without admiring him, or even a Nazi, a child molester, or a Republican.

 

[SkyWriting]

I really know nothing about Mr. Weitzenhoffer, so it would not be accurate to say I admire him. I could quote a Christian without admiring him, or even a Nazi, a child molester, or a Republican.

Say one thing, do another.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Say one thing, do another.

Sounds like these hypocrites that Jesus railed against in the Gospels:

Matt 23:
2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses;
3 therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them

 

[SkyWriting]

Sounds like these hypocrites that Jesus railed against in the Gospels:Matt 23:2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses;
3 therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them

I don't have the energy to see if it applies.

 

[Davian]

The Person I am hinting at is God, the First/Second/Third Person of the Godhead.

 

[Davian]

The "cells make cells"...tells us that God created first.

Is "God" made of cells, in the biological sense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology)

 

[SkyWriting]

Is "God" made of cells, in the biological sense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology)

Nope.
God is Spirit. He created Life which reflects his Spirit, but is not bound to it with a chain.
Imagine being chained to billions of people dragging them everywhere you go.

 

[Davian]

Nope.

So you don't need cells to make cells, or life to create life. Cool.

God is Spirit. He created Life which reflects his Spirit, but is not bound to it with a chain.
Imagine being chained to billions of people dragging them everywhere you go.

Why should I imagine this?

 

[Jan Volkes]

God is not bound by our laws.

Your God is bound only by your imagination.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Nope.
God is Spirit. He created Life which reflects his Spirit, but is not bound to it with a chain.
Imagine being chained to billions of people dragging them everywhere you go.

Yes when you look at all the other fantastical things we have imagined the imagination is a wonderful thing.

 

[Jan Volkes]

God has always existed: outside of time.

You're doing it again.
You were asked a question and the question was:
How long has your god been a Person?

 

[AV1611VET]

How long has your god been a Person?

Longer than time itself.

 

[SkyWriting]

So you don't need cells to make cells, or life to create life. Cool.

Science does demand an equal or greater cause for every event and equal or greater information for every translation.
But there had to be a pretty big, and pretty intelligent beginning to get where we are.
We can't seem to find new "stuff" being developed these days.

 

[SkyWriting]

You're doing it again.
You were asked a question and the question was:
How long has your god been a Person?

He has always.

 

[Freodin]

Excuse me if I have missed something important...

... so the "checkmate" for atheists is the assertion of theist dogma? Do I get that right?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

You're doing it again.
You were asked a question and the question was:
How long has your god been a Person?

Nice LOL!.......

Genesis 3:
8 They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
9 Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"…

Jhn 18:1
When Jesus had spoken these words, He went out with his disciples across the brook Kidron, where there was a garden, which He and His disciples entered.

Rev 11:17
saying, “We give thanks to Thee, Lord God Almighty, Who is and Who was,
for Thou hast taken Thy great power and begun to reign.