Chastisement

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......"In conslusion, it is an awful error to say that chastisement is a mark of the Lord's displeasure. When visited upon the reprobate wicked, it is a mark of his anger; but upon his elect, it proves to them his fatherly watchcare over his people whom he loves. Just suppose that chastisement is a sign of disobedience in the one chastised, then it would follow that the way to avoid chastisement would be to obey and to stop disobeying. If correct, the chastisement would cease the very moment the child obeyed. If the chastisement ceased, then that child would be a ******* and not a son. Do you not see what a terrible conclusion such false reasoning would bring us? It cannot be. If disobedience brings chastisement, then the very worst thing we can do is to obey; since obedience would then bring exemption from chastisement, it would also prove our illegitimacy and not our right to the promise as real sons of God."H.H.L
Elder Lefferts
Signs of the Times - Vol. 99, No. 3 - March 1931

I can't quite put my mind around the above paragraph.
Discuss ?
Also, keep in mind that Elder Lefferts is an "absolute predestinarian"

 

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......"In conslusion, it is an awful error to say that chastisement is a mark of the Lord's displeasure. When visited upon the reprobate wicked, it is a mark of his anger; but upon his elect, it proves to them his fatherly watchcare over his people whom he loves. Just suppose that chastisement is a sign of disobedience in the one chastised, then it would follow that the way to avoid chastisement would be to obey and to stop disobeying. If correct, the chastisement would cease the very moment the child obeyed. If the chastisement ceased, then that child would be a ******* and not a son. Do you not see what a terrible conclusion such false reasoning would bring us? It cannot be. If disobedience brings chastisement, then the very worst thing we can do is to obey; since obedience would then bring exemption from chastisement, it would also prove our illegitimacy and not our right to the promise as real sons of God."H.H.L
Elder Lefferts
Signs of the Times - Vol. 99, No. 3 - March 1931

I can't quite put my mind around the above paragraph.
Discuss ?
Also, keep in mind that Elder Lefferts is an "absolute predestinarian"

I think his point is that there is a difference in chastisement and punishment. God does correct His sons but not all trials and troubles are corrections. When He does correct us it is out of a love for us and always brings us into a knowledge of His will and way. For the unbeliever it is a token of His wrath. If we can avoid chastisement by obedience then we have reached a place that no mortal man has ever gotten to in this life. God is never displeased with His people but He is greived by our sin and corrects it in us. His corrections always acomplish the end to which He sends it.

 

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I might add that we should keep in mind that God's absolute predestination must still be experienced in this life. Whatever He has ordained for our good must happen to us in the manner he has decreed for the good of His people and the glory of His name. We may never know in this life how we have influenced others by what God has brought through. He may send us into the vally of death just to show some one how a believer goes through it.

 

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I might add that we should keep in mind that God's absolute predestination must still be experienced in this life. Whatever He has ordained for our good must happen to us in the manner he has decreed for the good of His people and the glory of His name. We may never know in this life how we have influenced others by what God has brought through. He may send us into the vally of death just to show some one how a believer goes through it.

Yes,
I understand.
It still boggles the mind and furthers the amazing greatness of our God!!
Good to meet you this past Saturday !!

 

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Yes,
I understand.
It still boggles the mind and furthers the amazing greatness of our God!!
Good to meet you this past Saturday !!

The two things that give me the greaest comfort in this world is that God is abolutely sovereign and that He is absolutely good to His people. He wisely and in unfathomable love brings us through life.

 

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The two things that give me the greaest comfort in this world is that God is abolutely sovereign and that He is absolutely good to His people. He wisely and in unfathomable love brings us through life.

Which should eliminate the "second guessing" of ones actions or circumstances.
Sounds like a peaceful and content place to be !!

 

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Which should eliminate the "second guessing" of ones actions or circumstances.
Sounds like a peaceful and content place to be !!

I am honestly afraid that God might do to me what he did to Paul and Silas in Acts 16. He had them beaten and put in the deepest and most dreadful part of the prison just to bring that jailor to faith in Christ. At the same time I would that He would use me in whatever way He sees fit to do so.