Chasing the wind?

[invisiblebabe]

I would submit your dreams to God, tell Him what you need or think you need - and wait how He will fulfill your dreams.

Very true I have and continue to try to do so the best I can

As far as less than you need.... I don't think God ever gives us less than we need, though He can give us less than we want. My thoughts on this, though, good communication within a relationship is an essential need, not just a want.

 

[carmi]

As far as less than you need.... I don't think God ever gives us less than we need, though He can give us less than we want.

I agree with you - that's why I wrote less than what we wanted/needed. The trouble that at least I am having is that I confuse wants with needs, in other words many times I think that what I want is that what I need.

 

[invisiblebabe]

UPDATE

Well, God did certainly provide beyond my wildest dreams and more. About three weeks ago, I met a certain someone... and things are progressing very well.

.... and by the way, he is INTJ. I think when it came to personality, I was right after all.

 

[Fatolia]

Hmmmmm....this is certainly a surprise, please keep us posted.

 

[iwillxa100]

UPDATE

Well, God did certainly provide beyond my wildest dreams and more. About three weeks ago, I met a certain someone... and things are progressing very well.

.... and by the way, he is INTJ. I think when it came to personality, I was right after all.

lucky woman

God isnt so faithful to everyone unfortunately.

 

[Fatolia]

lucky woman

God isnt so faithful to everyone unfortunately.

Man, what kind of attitude is that?!?!

God "isn't so faithful?!"

 

[carmi]

UPDATE

That's certainly good news. I am glad for you. Take care!

 

[PetraFan007]

Wow, this test sucks.....you virtually cannot fit me in that box because I can be anyone at anytime. I want to pick T, but I'm a F alot even though I'm a big-time thinker. I can be introverted or extroverted, depending on my mood. The closest thing you can pin me too is perciever, but I do judge more than I should. I like to be serious about important things like my faith, but at the same time....I'm crazy and I'll do weird/funny things when I want to be spontaneous. I love how I can't be fit in a box. I'm different from most people. I love pop music and ballads but all also enjoy brutal metal (thrash/death). Maybe I have a split-personality or I'm bipolar. ROFL. So, basically, I'm XXXX. No joke.

 

[RThibeault]

Your standards are important and you should stick to them. But get away from all this psychological testing. You will drive yourself nuts and probably them too.

I can understand your frustration about finding that guy whom you can communicate with on an intellectual level. It sounds to me that you need to find yourself first. You may also realize you don't really want to be in a relationship. You may just be looking to get into a relationship, because that is what is expected of you.

 

[PetraFan007]

scroll up mr tee-boe

 

[iwillxa100]

Man, what kind of attitude is that?!?!

God "isn't so faithful?!"

he is faithful,

but sometimes its hard for us to perceive it that way,

its hard to know God's reasons for things, why He lets some people die, why some people who crave marriage stay single, etc

 

[invisiblebabe]

Hmmmmm....this is certainly a surprise, please keep us posted.

That I will

Wow, this test sucks.....you virtually cannot fit me in that box because I can be anyone at anytime. I want to pick T, but I'm a F alot even though I'm a big-time thinker. I can be introverted or extroverted, depending on my mood. The closest thing you can pin me too is perciever, but I do judge more than I should. I like to be serious about important things like my faith, but at the same time....I'm crazy and I'll do weird/funny things when I want to be spontaneous. I love how I can't be fit in a box. I'm different from most people.

MBTI isn't predictive; it's descriptive. It's not supposed to tell you exactly who you are; it's supposed to put you in a category that describes you. I describe myself as a former gymnast, but does that put me in a box? No, it just is one trait that better gives you an idea of an interest I have. Same goes for the MBTI.... nobody is 100% I, E, S, N, or anything.... it's not about absolutes, nor is it supposed to be. Everyone has one preference or another on the scale. You can't be XXXX type.... the types aren't meant to limit you. They're meant to describe your primary mode of thinking and interpreting information about the world. This site explains it well I used to think I was INxJ, but from further studying, I concluded that was impossible. What separates one type from another is the dominant type of thought process, and that makes MBTI descriptive in a different way than just categorizing people. Perhaps this is one reason it's so hard to "type" someone.

Your standards are important and you should stick to them. But get away from all this psychological testing. You will drive yourself nuts and probably them too.

I can understand your frustration about finding that guy whom you can communicate with on an intellectual level. It sounds to me that you need to find yourself first. You may also realize you don't really want to be in a relationship. You may just be looking to get into a relationship, because that is what is expected of you.

Yep, scroll up This is the one time I'm able to say, hee hee hee, I knew what I needed in a guy, and it turned out I was right!!!

Anyhow, as far as finding myself, been there, done that.

Studying psychological type is interesting to me. Of course it isn't the be-all and end-all of how relationships work. It's simply my favorite mode of describing them.

lucky woman

God isnt so faithful to everyone unfortunately.

Psalm 37:4-5. Jeremiah 29:11.

I've had a very easy time believing that God just wants to give me the bare minimum of good things, and then from then on, He's "out to get me" and give me a ton of trials and whatnot.

It's one big fat lie, though, and lies originate from satan. God wants to bless you and give you good things. His timing isn't always the same as ours.... but a brighter season WILL come for you, too (and after a year of an ex fiance debacle, sister overdosing several times, friend in car wreck, bipolar/depression struggles, and more.... I can say I know what I'm talking about).

 

[iwillxa100]

Psalm 37:4-5. Jeremiah 29:11.

I've had a very easy time believing that God just wants to give me the bare minimum of good things, and then from then on, He's "out to get me" and give me a ton of trials and whatnot.

It's one big fat lie, though, and lies originate from satan. God wants to bless you and give you good things. His timing isn't always the same as ours.... but a brighter season WILL come for you, too (and after a year of an ex fiance debacle, sister overdosing several times, friend in car wreck, bipolar/depression struggles, and more.... I can say I know what I'm talking about).

In that Psalm, when it says: "Find your delight in the LORD who will give you your heart's desire", I think that means that God will give you what He desires, which deep down is what you desire. It doesnt necessarily mean he will bless you with earthly riches though.

And in Jeremiah, where God says He has plans for prosperity, I think He's referring to everything more so in a "Kingdom sense" as in what is prosperous for the Kingdom.

It sounds like you have been through a lot, and that this blessing was well earned. Although I'm still not sure if God intentionally blessed you, or if it just happened on its own.

While I would like to believe that God wants to bless us with good friends, a good mate, riches, and all that fun stuff, something tells me that God doesnt care about those silly things, and doesnt want us to care about them either.

First off, Earth was supposed to be a punishment for us, and that was made clear after Adam and Eve sinned. I dont think we should expect the good life now. I think on Earth we are to experience our trials, while in heaven we experience the blessing.

I dont think God is cold hearted towards us, its just that I dont think he really cares to go out of his way to bless us with earthly things, since thats not what God considers important.

To me sometimes, I see that as God being unfaithful. Although really He probably is trying to do us a favor by not giving us our earthly desires.
Sometimes I fail to see that though.

 

[wemmick]

I just wanted to point out that two people with the same Myers-Briggs temperament type are not going to be exactly the same in personality, and temperament type can pronounce itself in slightly different ways. Sure there are tendencies, but that does not mean the N traits will be pronounced in all the same ways and to the same degree in comparing 2 Ns or two INTPs, for example.

Also, the OP made a comment about her sister driving her crazy. Just because she drives you crazy and she's a certain MB type does not mean everyone of that MB type is like her and would drive you crazy. In addition to the personality factor and traits presenting themselves with a "spin" in each person, she is your sister and there are bound to be "sibling" issues there that cause friction between the two of you.

I think boiling it down to a MB type and acting like everyone of the same type is in the same boat denies that we each are unique and a product our families of origin,and experiences we have that no one else has--God's will in/for our lives--or that no one else can have the exact same point of view about. No one else has done, felt, thought, saw, said, etc. all the same things I have, and that certainly, to me at least, affects my personality and the way MB tendencies are pronounced in my life.

Blessings,
Becca

 

[Highland Watchman]

In that Psalm, when it says: "Find your delight in the LORD who will give you your heart's desire", I think that means that God will give you what He desires, which deep down is what you desire. It doesnt necessarily mean he will bless you with earthly riches though.

And in Jeremiah, where God says He has plans for prosperity, I think He's referring to everything more so in a "Kingdom sense" as in what is prosperous for the Kingdom.

It sounds like you have been through a lot, and that this blessing was well earned. Although I'm still not sure if God intentionally blessed you, or if it just happened on its own.

While I would like to believe that God wants to bless us with good friends, a good mate, riches, and all that fun stuff, something tells me that God doesnt care about those silly things, and doesnt want us to care about them either.

First off, Earth was supposed to be a punishment for us, and that was made clear after Adam and Eve sinned. I dont think we should expect the good life now. I think on Earth we are to experience our trials, while in heaven we experience the blessing.

I dont think God is cold hearted towards us, its just that I dont think he really cares to go out of his way to bless us with earthly things, since thats not what God considers important.

To me sometimes, I see that as God being unfaithful. Although really He probably is trying to do us a favor by not giving us our earthly desires.
Sometimes I fail to see that though.

Sounds a little like Gnosticism to me... Deny the physical because it is evil. All good things are spiritual...

Although there are valid points to what you are saying, namely that earthly riches and the other things that you mentioned should not be areas of concern (but because God will provide them for you, not because HE cares nothing for them, or that physicality is a punishment). I do agree that God does not consider earthly things as important, but we must also remember that God still made it. And if God made it, then it can not be all corrupt. Tainted by the Fall, yes, but still something that God has made.

Like you, I also question God's sanity at times, especially as I see the negative things going on in our world, as well as also looking at the struggles in my life (and in the lives of my friends). But after the fact, we can see God's hand working through all of it. Had I not been ridiculed and abused physically, mentally and emotionally during Middle and High school, I would not have developed the thick skin that I have today, nor would I have developed the independance necessary to stand alone when it matters most. Had I not been allowed to make mistakes, I would not have learned from them. True, sometimes you have to learn the hard way... and a lot of the time, what happens is a consequence of what we do. Eat the rotten meat, you get sick... simple as that. But not everything can be directly connected to this.

Another thing I agree with you on is that Jeremiah 29:11 is way overused, and used WAY out of context every time it is used. It was written to the people who were in bondage in Babylon, and it was written as an exhortation to settle down in the land and to prosper there until the allotted time when God would destroy Babylon and lead the people back into the land. At the time, there were those "prophets" who were proclaiming that God had given them the bounty of the Promised Land, and thatt Babylon was just a pagan usurper... and because THEY were the chosen people, they will be victorious if they rebelled... but that's not what God was saying. God was telling them to live peacefully there, so they could live and there would be enough people to come back and repopulate the Land. That's what's going on in the wider context. But if you look at just the verses surrounding it, God is saying that HE will take them from Babylon after 70 years (a long time) and do all that HE promised through the restorative prophecy (as in, making them HIS people, and HIM becoming their God, and writing Torah on their hearts and everything...), because HE has plans to prosper them and to give them hope for the future. Then HE goes on to say that HE will listen to our prayers, and that HE will be found by us when we truly seek HIM. THAT is an amazing promise, that after a time of bondage and seeming distress, that HE will restore us once again...


Oh, and Invisible Babe, I was just thinking... if you want to find fellow Christian Introverted Intuitive types (namely INFJ and INTJ) the best place to go would be a Bible College. I know that Bible Colleges have bad reps for being "bridal colleges", where many women go for their "MRS" degrees, but statistically speaking, even though "iN" people are rare, they tend to congregate in Higher Education... and being Christian, many of them would be in a Christian college... just a thought. Either that, or find someone who seems to attract that kind of personality type. For some reason, the majority of my friends would fit into that category, with maybe only a few exceptions.

 

[Highland Watchman]

I just wanted to point out that two people with the same Myers-Briggs temperament type are not going to be exactly the same in personality, and temperament type can pronounce itself in slightly different ways. Sure there are tendencies, but that does not mean the N traits will be pronounced in all the same ways and to the same degree in comparing 2 Ns or two INTPs, for example.

Also, the OP made a comment about her sister driving her crazy. Just because she drives you crazy and she's a certain MB type does not mean everyone of that MB type is like her and would drive you crazy. In addition to the personality factor and traits presenting themselves with a "spin" in each person, she is your sister and there are bound to be "sibling" issues there that cause friction between the two of you.

I think boiling it down to a MB type and acting like everyone of the same type is in the same boat denies that we each are unique and a product our families of origin,and experiences we have that no one else has--God's will in/for our lives--or that no one else can have the exact same point of view about. No one else has done, felt, thought, saw, said, etc. all the same things I have, and that certainly, to me at least, affects my personality and the way MB tendencies are pronounced in my life.

Blessings,
Becca

Couldn't agree with you more. There are so many other factors to consider... cultural identity, birth order, gender, the way we were raised, experiences growing up, natural tendancies/DNA, etc. If there were really only 16 types of people in the world, mine would probably go on the endangered species list, or would go on it soon enough. I think the world has enough of me with only one of me. Any more, and that could definitely make things a lot more interesting. And it would drive certain people to abject insanity. To others, they'd see more cannon fodder or door mats to step on. Nope! One of me is good enough.

 

[goodgirl]

luckily, you only need one!!

 

[JPPT1974]

God has made you the way he wanted you made in both attitude, personality as well as thought, heart, and soul. He never, ever makes mistakes at all.

 

[Larry Chi Sing Lai]

I just called things off with my boyfriend after wondering about what I perceive to be core compatibility issues, particularly communication style. We will still spend time together as friends, but we are not committed nor exclusive.

Having done this, here is what I wonder:

I am moderately introverted and extremely abstract in thought and communication...I enjoy talking about all sorts of theories, ideas, and thoughts about God and about life and any other randomness I come up with I believe I would be best matched with a guy who shares these characteristics (and very obviously, along with a solid Christian faith and strong desire to follow God).

The caveat, though: According to the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (personality inventory that I have studied very extensively), only about 4% of the population is like me in this manner. Reduce that to males around my age and Christians only, and you're looking at even less. And how about reducing it even farther, to those guys who would be interested in me that way?

I guess what I am asking here is, though I know God can provide beyond our wildest dreams..... am I dreaming a bit too big here?

Finding a God-lovely good guy may not be the same like as you, but he is the one for you in Lord. You accept the guy who he is and vice versa.
As everybody is unique in the world, just God always tells HIS believers to build up their characteristics with all their mind, with all their heart. And most important thing is that you are willing to pray God for your needs and to put God first. God always listens our pray and you can really know what's your needs in HIS driven way.

Are you happy with it? See ya

 

[invisiblebabe]

I just wanted to point out that two people with the same Myers-Briggs temperament type are not going to be exactly the same in personality, and temperament type can pronounce itself in slightly different ways. Sure there are tendencies, but that does not mean the N traits will be pronounced in all the same ways and to the same degree in comparing 2 Ns or two INTPs, for example.

Also, the OP made a comment about her sister driving her crazy. Just because she drives you crazy and she's a certain MB type does not mean everyone of that MB type is like her and would drive you crazy. In addition to the personality factor and traits presenting themselves with a "spin" in each person, she is your sister and there are bound to be "sibling" issues there that cause friction between the two of you.

I think boiling it down to a MB type and acting like everyone of the same type is in the same boat denies that we each are unique and a product our families of origin,and experiences we have that no one else has--God's will in/for our lives--or that no one else can have the exact same point of view about. No one else has done, felt, thought, saw, said, etc. all the same things I have, and that certainly, to me at least, affects my personality and the way MB tendencies are pronounced in my life.

Blessings,
Becca

I never implied that MBTI type was the be-all and end-all of compatibility; I think I put a disclaimer in here somewhere that said something along those same lines I was using that as a model because I feel it most efficiently explains the key qualities that I've found, through both my own experience and theory, to be necessary for me in a future spouse. MBTI type is descriptive to a certain extent.... will it tell you exactly who you are, and put you in a box? Not really. It is intended, however, to group people with certain key traits together, and some people feel that this indeed puts them in a box, so to speak. Yep, you're definitely right in that MBTI type will not determine everything about personality... other factors (upbringing, genetics, talents) certainly come into play.

As far as my sister, I used her as an example of an ESFP because I see her the most and would naturally think of her first I know plenty of other ES** types and though many are nice people, I usually (not always, but most times) find a certain level of connection lacking that I would be much more likely to find in an IN** type (most typically INT* type). This is not meant to organize people along some sort of hierarchy, either....I am sure that people who cannot relate to me on a deeper level for whatever reason, would probably say the same thing about me.

I am NOT saying I cannot be friends with ES** types. I am saying that by my own experience and with what I have seen as an INTJ, it is simply much more likely that I will find close friends or romantic interests that are fellow IN** types.

*grin* Hope your wedding plans are going well, Becca! I look forward to seeing pictures when the time comes