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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

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I saw it the day it came out. IT WAS AWESOME! I have to admit that I was a little weary of tim burton. He is not my favorite director and he is really dark. But I liked it better than the first one. This one filled in holes, Charlie had a dad, funnier, and it stayed truer to the book! MUST SEE TWO THUMBS UP
 
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Best movie of the year? Quite possibly. Better than Batman? Welll, I dunno about that! Yeah, I was totally swept away by this one. To any that are on the fence on this one...get off, get your tickets and enjoy! I love Gene Wilder too, but Depp did such a great job that I was quite pleased. I loved all the other characters too. Grampa Joe, mom, Charlie...all good!! = )
 
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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory—to my mind—can so easily be mapped-out into some basic Judeo/Christian myths. For instance: I (personally) see Willie Wonka as being very “God”-like, his factory as being Heaven/Paradise, the Oompa Loompas as angels, and Charlie as being a sort of Prodigal Son/Adam figure, returning to God’s side.
You ain’t buyin’ it, are you?!? :p O.K., let me try to be more specific:
• Granted, there is nothing that obviously identifies him as God-like figure...but run with some of his characteristics for a minute: 1.) He is powerful/influential in the world. 2.) But he is very removed from the world. 3.) Yet, he seeks to bring good things to the world (in the form of his candy inventions). 4.) He is a creator...heck, just look at his factory. 5.) He is aided by beings who are very obviously ‘other worldly.’ (they literally dwelled above the Earth, before he found them and convinced them to come work for him)
• When Augustus Gloop falls in the chocolate river—and the Oompa Loompas sing their song—I think several of the guests comment that they seemed to have already had the song ready to go for the event...there is a hint at (divine) foreknowledge there (although notice that Willie Wonka brushes-aside that possibility).
• When they are taking the boat tour through the factory, they pass the “whipped cream” room. I believe it was Veruca who commented on how silly or stupid that was, and the response eludes her; it is that way, because it IS non-sensical...just as the journey towards spiritual enlightenment is one that (at some point) must lay reason/logic aside. This is reiterated later in the film by Charlie, when he comments about candy-making not needing to “make sense.” Many of the inventions in the factory are outlandish—but what’s interesting is that there need be no real ‘why’ for their creation; they were created simply because Willie Wonka (God) chose to create them (or, said another way: God doesn't need a reason!).
• I’m deeply intrigued by the father/son relationship in this version of the story (between Willie Wonka and his father). I can’t help but map-out Willie Wonka as the “Creator God,” and his father as the “Infinite God” (responsible for making lesser gods, like Willie). Examined in this light, the dynamics between those two is profound (or at least I found them to be so).
• What I find semi-profound about the ending is that Willie Wonka finds a certain sense of peace, by re-uniting with humanity. Imagine for a moment: Might God ever feel cut-off from us...?
• Following that, I love the wackiness of the way Depp plays the character—he’s ‘out there’...no question. But, what might God be like? What would happen if God—dormant for many moons—suddenly announced to the world, that he was going to let 5 children tour heaven with him? Notice that the character of Willie Wonka never crosses the line into buffoonery...he’s odd...but never foolish (in fact, note the way Depp gives the character a look of wisdom just about every time one of the children falls away from the group—the look he gives Mr. Salt as he goes to free Veruca from the squirrels is an excellent example of this).
• Although likewise not clear-cut, use your imagination a bit, and place the boy Mike Teavee into the devil figure role. Is he “evil?” Well, not really...but he sure is arrogant, isn’t he? He thinks he can do more with what Willie Wonka has than Willie Wonka himself can!! And what does it get him, in the end...?
I noticed other things while I was watching the film...I need to watch it again to draw out some further details...but, how am I doing so far? Again, I’m not saying that any of the characters in the film are clearly-defined theological figures...but (to my mind) the hints are there, in ever so subtle amounts...
Thoughts? (my wife thinks I’ve read waaaayyyyyy too much into it! ;) )
 
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